If you are reading this, you obviously love tools. A Harbor Freight recently opened up here in my home town and it has been all the talk recently. It is basically a dollar store for men, cheaply produced products at cheap prices. They go there in droves and spend a lot of time in shopping and looking around. My Dad recently has now become addicted and goes there at least twice a week. Even if you only spend $20 there , you come out with a great sense of value. You can get an entire impact socket set for $9.99, a reciprocating saw for $22.99, a pancake compressor for $59 and even a 3-D Empire State Building puzzle for $2.97. The list goes on and on, even I am addicted and find myself leaving there with totally useless stuff like a big box of wing nuts or box of cotter pins. I wouldn’t really go as far as getting a power tool from there, but we did get a multi-tool for review.
Recently I bought a Snap-On flashlight and gloves at Costco. I spent $40, as I carefully inspected the Snap-On packaging. I noticed it was just licensed by Snap-On and both of the products were just cheaply made Chinese junk, branded with Snap-On logos. I could have got the exact same thing from Harbor Freight for under $5. I couldn’t believe my eyes, Snap-On had sold out and I just paid $30 to have a Snap-On name slapped on some cheap Chinese products. I had no sense of value from this purchase and I just felt like I got bent over. That left a bad taste in my mouth and now will avoid the brand.
Harbor Freight however is not about fancy brand names, it is about good deals, you know up front that you are buying cheaply produced goods, but not overpaying for it. I bought a few tow slings there the other day for $10 and felt like I got a great deal, leaving with a smile. I might only use them once or twice, but for $10 are good to have. Bottom line is Harbor Freight tells you how it is. No fancy marketing smoke and mirror scheme. Yes, the tools are cheap and the quality is cheap, but the value to the consumer is unmatched. A $39 Harbor Freight drill is not going to compare to a high end $200+ modern brushless drill. But for $39 it will usually get the job done and might even last a few more jobs. For the person that uses a drill maybe once a month it is great deal.
Anyone Remember Thorsen tools? They were a good USA made tool back in the day. For years now the name Thorsen, has been disgraced by selling Chinese junk. Now you see their tools in a bargain bin for $1.99 at a local hardware store. Todays economy is a tough place, especially for tool manufactuers. Work is hard to find and people don’t have the extra cash to spend for a premium brand unless it really is a premium tool and their trade requires it. The brands that are selling out will only lose consumer confidence and places like Harbor Freight will flourish. Where else can you get new moving blankets for $3? And for the record some of Harbor Freights products are made in the USA.
I’ve bought quite a bit of stuff from harbor fright, but there are two things I will never buy. 1. Power tools that I depend on everyday. 2. Safety equipment.
I go there when there’s a good sale. HF is great for tools that you don’t think you’ll be using every day. I picked up one of those Fein-inspired oscillating saw/sander tools and it works great for $20… Yep, it’s ridiculously loud and doesn’t have a speed control, but it paid for itself after one project. 🙂
We also have Habor Freight in our neck of the woods & I love the place. Haven’t really gotten the nerves to buy anything expensive from there, nothing over 10 bucks. I really don’t trust cheaply made tools, but I sure love to look at them. I really liked your reference about a dollar store for men, because that is what it is. Eric also mentioned it’s like a Menards, which I do agree to a degree. I did buy a torq wrench a few months ago & I love it. It cost $10 compared to other more expensive brands I looked at. I have changed tires & loosened bolts on a small engine block. This thing is still turning & doing its merry little thing. I have tried to break it, but its still clicking. Give this place a try because it is addictive. Do you hide your face when you’re walking into HF? Or it just me? Thanks for listening & Happy Holidays!
lol , we don’t hide our face
There’s a place in the food chain for many fits out there, and there are really some things that it’s just not appropriate to overspend on! I go to Harbor Freight for many of the things I need on a job that are just gonna get it done, and you aren’t trying to add them to the tool Hall of Fame, you’re trying to achieve something at the site that’s a “one-off”. By the way, even while the economy was tanked, there was always a line at the register.
Well said Mike Foley. I also love their Blow Out sales where they put buckets & buckets of stuff dirt cheap, which I will never get an opportunity to use half the crap, I mean stuff that I got last time. I really don’t hide my face, but I do wear disguise. Kidding… Every guy should know about this place
Wow this article is absolutely atrocious (just like my writing). You guys are losing your credibility. Harbor freight tools are a disgrace to the values of this country. Value should be attributed to the cost and quality of a tool. There is no quality in harbor freight tools, it is just cheap prices. The American way has always been to build and purchase great quality products while maintaining an affordable level of cost. Having an article like this further pushes the notion, how much can I get and how cheap can I get it. Selling cheap crap tools for cheap doesn’t mean you have a valuable product. You just have a cheap piece of crap and you can now afford to buy more crap.
There are plenty of great quality tools designed and made by great companies from all over the world (including China). I am not going to rant on about how you should only buy US made and how China sucks, because that is not the case. Great tools can be manufactured in China. But (can I start a sentence with but?) what I hate is this continual justification to buy and sell crap here in the US and the excuse that I here over and over is, why would I buy 1 when I can buy 10 for the same price. We need to stop accepting crap products as ok; we need to demand higher quality with fair prices.
You stated “Recently I bought a Snap-On flashlight and gloves at Costco. I spent $40, as I carefully inspected the Snap-On packaging. I noticed it was just licensed by Snap-On and both of the products were just cheaply made Chinese junk, branded with Snap-On logos.”
You are without a doubt correct on this. A lot of this is attributed to these cheap tools stealing market share from the quality branded companies. They see their sales plummeting and sell out to get high margins on what many people like to call “throw away” tools ( “throw away” tools, we seem to have lost the value in taking care of things we own). This is a terrible business strategy and I completely despise companies for doing this but in the end it’s partially our own doing.
Another bold statement: “Bottom line is Harbor Freight tells you how it is. No fancy marketing smoke and mirror scheme.”
You can’t be serious, tools named Pittsburgh and Chicago are 100% smoke and mirrors. Having a motto; “Quality tools at ridiculously low prices”. This is a travesty, a sham, and a mockery, a trasvashamockery! Having these products with “limited lifetime warranty” basically means we sell you such cheap crap and 98% of you won’t bring your junk broken tool back for warranty, but we sure made you feel all warm inside with that nice gold lifetime limited warranty sticker. A quote from one of my favorite movies: “But why do they put a guarantee on the box? Tommy: Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of shit. That\’s all it is, isn\’t it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer\’s sake, for your daughter\’s sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me.”
Quote number C: “Harbor Freight however is not about fancy brand names”
Your right, it’s just about ruining historically great industrial city names like Chicago and Pittsburgh.
These quotes are piling up: “Todays economy is a tough place, especially for tool manufactures. Work is hard to find and people don’t have the extra cash to spend for a premium brand unless it really is a premium tool and their trade requires it. The brands that are selling out will only lose consumer confidence and places like Harbor Freight will flourish. “
This says it all, why do you think our economy sucks, maybe because we buy cheap crap products and hurt the quality branded companies (many of which are headquartered here in the states). There is a pretty good reason why trades require quality tools. They work and last long!
Not slowing down: “You can get an entire impact socket set for $9.99, a reciprocating saw for $22.99, a pancake compressor for $59 and even a 3-D Empire State Building puzzle for $2.97.”
Do you seriously think this is good? Many of the products at the great HF aren’t even UL listed. So on top of being junk they aren’t very safe and they drive the cost up for good quality branded companies that have to pay an arm and a leg for product liability and certifications. Let’s be real here and stop kidding yourself. This isn’t about value this is about getting more and more for less so you can buy more and more and more, oh and grab me 10 of those $2 multimeters, you never know when you will need to inaccurately measure voltage or struggle to find the 9 volt battery it didn’t come with.
Dang the last one: ”The brands that are selling out will only lose consumer confidence and places like Harbor Freight will flourish.”
For yours and my sake I hope this day never comes and people wake up and start buying better products and move the market share to the quality respectable brands so they don’t have to sell out.
I am 26, I used to shop at harbor freight all the time when I was in my teens. I purchased plenty of things that I thought were a great deal at the time. I saw Harbor freight as a way to get a lot for a little. Since then about ever tool has either broken, left my knuckles bleeding, started something on fire, oh and now I have nothing to show for the money I spent. I regret every dime I ever spent there. I continue to regret every purchase I have ever made that was based on finding the cheapest possible product instead of finding a quality product for a good price that will actually last you a long time. They might even last you long enough to pass down to your grand kids like my grandfather has done for me.
In about a week I will get over this and we will be friends again. I will come back to your site to read about the latest and greatest, but for now I’m walking away kicking a screaming with my pair of Channellocks in one hand, Knipex in the other and my Pittsburgh in the trash.
Have a good Holiday, hope you get some great QUALITY tools for Christmas!
I dont usually take the time for this sort of thing but I will (even on this turd box tab) for zander. I agree with you friend. I too am quite alight with pride in quality, and it is an extreme challenge to find quality these days. I usually look to buy Japanese, German and Swedish when possible. Why? Well, I have seen the quality that is produced in America these days and I am unimpressed. Its depressing and taxing. Even in the military now they will not get rid of a bad tool, and by tool im speaking of the human variety, we let incompetents pass to keep up the numbers. People who by-and-large are expected to be the very best by john, q, public. But, the moronic voters expect much, however care little, especially if it involves there money. What does this have to do with tools?
Nothing.
It has as much to do with tools as your post did. Its about philosophy. The philosophy of communism. The philosophy that preaches that which is good is inherant regardless of motive. You see, Americans have become everything that is bad for GOOD. Now of course I dont mean all americans, but enough so that the majority will change the foundations of this country, due in large part by “democracy” (the great pre-emptor to communism). I as you have pleaded with those who have a choice to choose quality, whether it be USA or Foreign, but by God choose quality!
There is a large faction of American companies who basically slap their name on chinese products. In the great scheme of things china will become masters of all “wares” but what will not change, whatcanjot change is the tireless majority of mouth breathing ape like creatures whom cannot see beyond the price tag, they have given up their ability to discern quality. They will find every reason to justify it, even to their own detriment.
My advice to you would be to focus on those to whom you can demonstrate your own wisdom, and show the truth. You will find that is equally as difficult to convince to those whom you would die for, as it is to those strangers wandering by, that a persons choice, is their only power. In this power they either reward all which is against them, or that which is for them.
My favorite: Cry now or cry later. It is better to suffer today to prepare for tomarrow.
I am not a pro-american product guy. I drive a Honda. Paint with a SATA, and browse with a Samsung. I am pro-quality, even if its from China. The difference is caring to see the difference. It is up to the individual to LOOK.
Reward Quality! Shun inferiority! THAT is the American way.
Good luck to you, you will see much more than most, and unlike most, will be affected by it.
PS. It took me 3 weeks, and 96 hours of reading to decide which welding machine to buy.
Well said and still applies today. The Den of Tools pushes Harbor Freight today, calls anyone who buys Snap On tools stupid and and idiot.
I will not purchase tools at Harbor Freight, in fact the only thing I will recommend from Harbor Freight is the US General tool boxes and only for the home owner, everything else Harbor Freight sells is Chinese garbage.
Bill, Mike, Zander: ENVY is the root cause of you’re emotional grief, and others who ride with ya. I’ll elaborate. Zander had his turn, now its my turn.
Any secure, mature individual what never feel the way Bill/Mike/Zander do. If they don’t like cheap tools, they would not buy them. Period. Same with AR-15s, don’t like military style weapons, don’t buy/build em. Simple? Yes. This is where simplicity ends.
Bill/Mike/Zander are insecure boys. This is a sign of immaturity. ENVY is born. It basically goes something like this:
## How is it some of these DIYers with little to no money at all can build neck-to-neck with what I had to work so much for? How can these poor welfare collecting people be equal to us Hard working blue collar Americans? ##
Well something like that. You will deny. For sure. You will then shift to attempt to cover your envy. Hide it. Shame. Guilt. Now you must create justification for your narratives. They must be clothed in caring, patriotic, faithful, good works.
You see, you 3 lack talent/skill and/or patience and/or time. I and others like me lack money, connections, or parents who handed me down anything. Yet we don’t plead for you to lose what you have. We don’t cringe when you buy you quality tools. NEVER. Because we have what we need to do what you do.
** My conclusion: WE ARE EQUAL ** — and that kills your ego. Well Bill/Mike/Zander that is life. People who are secure and fed up with you will have no problem or tact putting you in your place. You hate Marxism, you are the core of the Marxist manifesto/ideology. They believe, if I cannot have it, no one can. Just like you. If I am wrong, tell me one thing, bill-mike-zander, why do you care/obsess about others lives? ENVY is led to hate. I think I needed this to happen so I could understand what wise people tried explaining to me. BILL-MIKE-ZANDER THE BEST REVENGE IS SUCCESS. Your pleading and dreams are just that you envious anti-american marxist pig, dreams. I will have a great reality. Thank you for confirming what my Elders tried over and over to explain to younger me. Thank you for showing me I am a HAVE and you chose to be a have-not.
P.S. Harbor Freight aint goin anywhere. But you can leave the USA anytime.
HF is a good place to get hand tools that your not going to go looking for if
someone wlks off with it. I have shopped HF for years for small stuff.
Your right it is a mans dollr store i spend hours just going up and down the
isles looking at all the stuff. Great way to kill a rainy Sat morning.
Zander,
Man…26 years old and wise beyond your years. Wow. I am a fan. Do you have a blog somewhere yourself? I would read it. That was not only damn funny, it was, of course, ultimately true. But whether anyone is a fan or simply sickened by the success of this approach, it’s made some people multi-millionaires, just not any of the inventor/entrepreneurs that live here I would speculate. Meanwhile, it’s the privilege of our American capitalist system to let people (who would never vote in any other way perhaps) vote with their spending dollars. Your points are all logical and well presented, and extremely entertaining, but take it as a tool inventor who makes patented tools right here in the USA, the volume of business you do with a low cost unit is mind boggling versus the premium you have to charge to hold your head high and delivery fantastic American tools. I’ve lived it. People go out of their way to email me about spending $2 bucks on a screwdriver and a rock to pull out staples, or “what is wrong with my 95 cent pry bar for pulling nails?” Exactly nothing my friends, nothing at all! Quality and pride has its own rewards, and it, like durability, is the long term game! But all that said, there’s a place for this stuff, there just is, and Harbor Freight has it nailed.
Zander is a funny guy.. Truth is HF is not much different then Northern tool, grainger, grizzly or MSC.. They all sell similar items HF, HF just does not carry any of the big names like the other place’s do. Do a little research Many of the big ticket items at HF are the same exact item made in the same exact factory. Drill press, mill, sheet metal tools, lathe, all of those items carry “high end” manufacture stickers to..
It really comes down to buying what you need and doing the research. HF does seem to be employing US workers everyday in this country.
Harbor Freight tools have their own place in the market. Unless you are very bad at your job, they are not professional tools. They are really only good for once in a while or “I need a tool for a specific job” type of tools.
Realistically, there’s just not much available in the middle level marker other then Craftsman, Kobalt or Husky (all store brands, hmm?). Most auto stores carry complete crap. But even those brands are still double the price of Harbor Freight if it’s regular price. The fact is that most tool companies do overcharge you any chance they get. Do you really think that a simple SnapOn combination wrench really costs 10-20 times more to make then HF or 2-5 times more then Craftsman?
I wouldn’t buy any tool that I used on a regular basis for work from there but back up or tools that would be nice to have “just in case” are all great buys. I’ve bought The HF 105 tool set for five friends who have no other tools. Because at least I have something to work with when I go visit them, and they ask me to do something my Leatherman can’t do.
Competition in America is as American as apple pie. If the competition can’t stand up to what Harbor Freight is offering, then they need to rethink their approach to price and market. Many of the hand tools at HF can rival tools twice the price. The power tools and consumable items are pretty bad but you learn that quickly. I would say that it actually helps the professional brands in some ways because many people upgrade after their first tools break, but they might not have bough it in the first place. For example, I have a HF welder that I wouldn’t have been able to afford from a name brand. But now that I know I like welding, I will buy my next machine from a reputable brand.
Truth is, %90 of people that are buying at Harbor Freight know exactly what they are getting. If they are too dumb to understand that they should buy one pro tool instead of buying three of the HF, then stupid can’t be helped. But there is a huge market for people that need tools for occasional or amateur use that are very over priced anywhere else.
Sometimes you absolutely get what you pay for. Although, if I were afraid of a tool getting stolen from a jobsite, I’d rather it be a $40 HF driver than a $150 driver from a real brand.
I’m not sure everyone is getting what I am putting down. I am looking at the great big picture, and I am specifically point out Harbor Freight because I despise their business strategy and I love tools. We cannot continue to accept mediocrity, we cannot continue to make excuses, we cannot continue to make ourselves feel better by the notion “well you get what you pay for” “they are good for once in a while” blah blah, cough, blah, little violin playing…. (wow that was very preachy)
Matt makes a good point: “Do a little research Many of the big ticket items at HF are the same exact item made in the same exact factory”
Without a doubt this happens all over and it’s because we buy it and worse off we accept it! The marketing teams with the big ears catch wind of these cheap products that people are gobbling up and their eyes light up with gold dollar signs, look at these huge margins we can make by slapping our name on this, yippy I’m getting promoted! We can’t accept HF as OK just because they are selling the same crap just cheaper. It’s still crap!
Mike said is perfect “Quality and pride”
What happened to this? If we continue to buy this crud, continue to support this mentality, you will continue to see this in every mode of business. Make it cheap sell it cheaper and they will come, and buy 2 dozen, actually make that 3 dozen my brother-in-law needs some.
It’s simple supply and demand peeps. If we demand higher quality with fair prices we will get it. Quality branded companies will stop faking you out with lick and stick crap, and people will see the value in tools like Mike is working so hard to push out (I have a nail jack sitting near my desk right now).
In summary, if you buy products from places like Harbor Freight (no matter how long you think it will last or how similar it is to another name brand tool or how many you can buy for the same price or how often you will use it) you are supporting cheap quality products and bloating the market share of cheap products. Are you a terrible person for doing so? Nope, not at all, in fact you are normal. I am just trying to change the norm! (Mic drop!)
Zander: America is a Diverse nation. It is what makes America the great Nation she is! There are plenty of people poor as can be (American poor, not internationally) who have this work in their blood. All they need is just a foot in the door. Time, patience, passion will do the rest. Supply and demand has NOTHING to do with this. IT is what the great Teddy Roosevelt talked about: EFFORT. No matter how much you WHINE, no matter how much you want to remove what you either don’t understand or just despise, you are only digging yourself further in your hole. Demand all you want. Rant and whine all day. America was not made great by pamper wearing people like you. It was made great by people who did the best with what they have. Period. I am that. That will never change. So wake up Zander, or is that dream just too good. LOL, bottle time. 😉 I gotta get some rest.
No mate, we got what you were “putting down”.
It’s this simple. There are two kinds of tool users (and this varies with the tools): 1) the guy who uses it day in, day out. Carpenters, mechanics, guys in a professional environment and 2) the guy who needs “that thing” for a weekend project or three cuts on a board…and then “that thing” sits and gathers dust for eight months or a year.
Harbor Freight is specifically geared toward 2). Professionals buy professional tools with iron-clad guarantees and a promise in blood that they’re not going to lose out on two things: productivity and money…because to them, both are the same thing. The weekender or “I do my own oil changes” guy isn’t walking around with a claw hammer or a 3/4 drive grafted to his hand, that stuff stays in a box except for maybe four or five times a year, the professional is pulling that tool out four or five times a day. He (or she) ain’t buying Harbor Freight.
Speaking for most people here in these United States, and especially for myself, I do not give a damn about the quality, I care about the price because I only have so many dollars in the wallet. So if the Chinese exported three shiploads of crap that works “long enough” that I can buy for $3.00 over American-made great stuff that I have to pay $20.00 bucks for, both doing exactly the same thing for the same amount of time…the Chinese just got a boost in their market share and that “quality” company can go straight to hell on their guarantee. Simple economics. I’m demanding that what I buy lasts long enough for me to get done what I want done, and if it lasts longer than that, awesome, icing on the cake…but I’m not turning a wrench on bikes in my local Harley shop or Ford dealer and I’m not building houses 12 months out of the year, so “long enough” may be years for me. And in that case Harbor Freight wins, hands down, every SINGLE time.
And you can sit there with an anorexic wallet in neutral, demanding quality…alone…or with a small minority of other silly gits equally cash depleted…while the rest of us are productive and making good economic decisions that keep cash in our bank accounts.
THAT is ‘the norm’, my friend, not on some ridiculous, meaningless ideal, but on the almighty dollar and how much of it I have to shell out to get what I need done.
If the Snap-On or Skil or Grizzly costs 5x the cost of the Harbor Freight variant and they both do the same thing and give me the same return, I would require psychiatric help if I spent 5x the dollar because of a name. I’m not a professional tool user like the aforementioned mechanic or carpenter. “Quality” is absolutely limited to “does it do what I need it to, when I need it to and do I care if it goes to hell when I no longer need it AND if I DO happen to need it again, will it be cheap to replace?” I don’t have a garage full of tools waiting for a “oh, someday I might…” I have what I need when I need it. Like the overwhelming majority of people.
Harbor Freight is for Joe Average, not the Crew Chief on a NASCAR team.
There’s your “mic drop”. I’m gonna go count the money I didn’t spend listening to your sage advice.
I like going to HF for the little things. They usually have some decent S-Biners, nick nack stuff but I will never buy their power tools or safety equipment.
@Zander
Actually now that you bring up supply and demand I think You have a good point.. Truth is I have purchased things from HF for years and there products have came along way since the store first went in. They seem to be putting out better and better mid range products each year and keeping the cost down.. I dont think I can say that about Snapon..
There model works people except it and like it.. To many name brands are not worth the price of the name on the product.
Zander will really appreciate this video about the quantity of this you can get at Harbor Freight (so will all the real value seekers) – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mgm8uaabzY&sns=em. You’d be crazy to overpay for the brand names.
I have HF hand tools, and they have served me well. I don’t go to HF thinking I am getting a Craftsman, but in todays market…..similarities as goes quality. I bought a B&S generator (5000W) that was in the shop twice under warranty, and finally the repair facility said they wouldn’t work on it – contact B&S. Never got this paperweight fixed, but have a neighbor with a HF generator, first failed, they replaced, second failed about three weeks in – they replaced; now he has had the same one and it is five years old………I still have my non-working B&S paperweight.
A lot of people whine about cheap chinese tools but many people will never buy a us made tool because of the cost and it is very difficult to find us made tools. I wish i could by a us made power tool but all the manufacturing has moved to china. If the tool is well made i would rather buy it from a us company
As of last fall Craftsman now produces the vast majority of their tools in China.
Zander,
bravo, I wish more people would wake up and see the false econony in buying disposable junk tools, junk anything really. The reason places like HF exist is because we let them, by buying their crap. What happened to the old ways of buying a quality product and taking care of it, rather filling up our landfills with disposable cheap junk, and filling the pockets of greedy businessmen with our hard earned cash as a direct consiquence? It’s the same with the 99 cent stores, it’s all low quality and many times unsafe junk. The American consumer needs to wake up and demand more value for his or her money. Value, not cheap crap pretending to be a good “value.”
“quality tools at ridiculously low prices…”
yeah OK!
Great article. I too have been going to HF for awhile and on the exact same page w/you Dan as well as some of the exact same tools. HF is good for.
-quick hitters
-one time use/light use/limited use/or just get you out of a jam
-cheap nick nacks are worth their value
Depending on the batch possible SOME power tools would be of value. And it could be one of those tools you loan to a neighbor and not worry about.
Keep up the great work Dan and Eric!
I’ve collected and have a lot of great tools, including my Snap-on gems, SK, Proto, Craftsman and I’m an American engineer (rocket engines) and believe in America. I want to buy American and do as much as I can. No retired due to a disability, I don’t spend like I used to spend.
Today I bought my first HB tools for a single job after which I was planning to give them away. Every ratchet was dead-on-arrival.
Won’t be going back there!
Every ratchet was dead on arrival? Wow. The quality really has improved since 2013. You need to give them another chance.
I have some tools from this store there not to bad the screw drivers work but I bought a copper cutter and it didn’t work to great but it’s a good store for tools that you beat on and loose a lot
I had a set of the cheap screwdriver they sometimes give away when you use a coupon and buy a another item. The tip on one of the flat bladed ones twisted when I used it. I have never seen that happen before. My guess is that they are not hardened steel or maybe even not a good alloy. I still use the ones that are not ruined yet but only for small things like loose cabinet hinges. It was a new screwdriver and not used a lot. That may have been the first time I used that one and now it is the last because it is ruined now and I don’t want to ruin a screw head if I can avoid it. I was not expecting much from their tools anyhow. I don’t use those tools every day either but I would not buy any saw blades from that place.
You can buy a machete for $6 at Harbor Freight, and it comes with a sheath. You can also buy a Crocodile Dundee looking “survival knife” for $8. This place is madness. I didn’t know what the store was about, so I went looking, and that’s how I arrived at this blogpost. I did notice there were no brands like Craftsman, and the selection was limited to overtly American sounding off-brands (or no brand at all), but everything seemed to be made in China. Two of the brand names I saw repeatedly were Pittsburgh and Chicago. All were products produced in China and distributed by HF. Their basic tools seem pretty sturdy and reliable. It’s hard to screw up a hammer. I wouldn’t trust the power tools, though. A lot of saws need specific blades, and if one of their saws lasted long enough to need new blades, I don’t like the idea of needing to find specific ones for an off-brand that will cease to exist at any given moment.
Who cares where it is made? If it’s good, it’s good. If it’s not, it’s not. Plenty of stuff “made in America” is garbage. Check out our roads and airports for a starter.
Over the last twenty years, China has constructed thousands of miles of freeways and rails and constructed entire world class cities while the USA literally crumbles around us.
Whether you buy things made in America or China, Wall Street benefits and the working man suffers. The owners want the most work they can get for as little money as possible. They call this capitalism, and it’s been the dominant system worldwide for all of our lifetimes.
Direct your anger where it belongs, not at poor working sobs in Chinese sweatshops.
I have been looking for Goop hand cleaner everywhere. I found it there at Harbor Freight so I was excited to buy it. When I got it home and opened it it was watery as if water was added to it. It’s suppose to be a paste. I will be returning it as soon as I can. Very disappointed in Savannah.
Yes, that stinks and that is what worries me sometimes.
I bought a Chicago angle grinder at HF last year when I needed to remove tile cement after prying up a ceramic floor. It was PERFECT for the job for just $30. In my 49 years I had NEVER needed an angle grinder before, and I will probably never spin the thing up again. I paid about the same for the diamond cup grinding wheel as I did for the tool.
I certainly would NOT have bought it if I were a professional tile installer and had to rely on it every day.
That is great to hear. I did the same thing but with a Menards sander and that was back in the day of Tool Shop. I knew the sander was going to get abused for the one job at hand. I think I paid $20 and it worked perfectly for the job
Bought a 30 gallon air compressor there, years ago, forget the price, but I’ve painted several cars with it, and its still going…knock on wood..lol. But remember thinking when I bought it what a deal. Has definantly paid for itself.
Good to hear.
First drain cleaner frame bent beyond product assembly and not useable.Got second Drain cleaner after arguement with Danny Dist mgr. This one appears undamaged, but pin retaining drum was laying in bottom of box. Drum walks forward, belt jumps off. AGAIN I HAVE UNUSEABLE NEW PRODUCT FROM HARBOR FREIGHT. Now a return is required for a PUMP OR SPRAYER for this device. IT IS NOT A PUMP OR SPRAYER but it is POS. I WILL BE CALLING CORPORATE MON.
If you are going to tell me that you review tool & that Harbor Freight is quality stuff , YOU SHOULD NOT BE REVIEWING TOOLS!?? The steel the use is garbage & does NOT last for the everyday working mechanic , a back yard once in a blue moon need to get some tools out guy YES ,the shit should last forever , but QUALITY ,PLEASE !!?? It’s cheap junk the people ( when they get something cheap) get that rush . Their power tools & air tools , DO NOT LAST for the everyday user .
For years, the likes of Milwaukee, Dewalt and Rigid catered to the trades, their tools were built like tanks and cost as much. Harbor Freight recognized that their was a huge market in the weekend warrior, who maybe uses a tool once or twice a year and couldn’t justify $300 for a drill. But something seems to have happened – as they built and sold millions of tools they started looking at what broke and why, and figured out how to make it better, while still holding the line on cost.
The big US brand names probably didn’t want to “cannibalize their market” by offering low cost tools to the occasional user. Problem with that arrogant thinking is it leaves the door open for someone else to service the low end, then use the volume and low cost infrastructure to come after your high end.
I bought a hardwood floor nailer at HF for $100.00. Bostitch was 399.00. I install 1900sq ft of 3/4 hardwood with the Harbor Freight tool with no problems. No more hardwood for me so I gave it to a friend who had a small job to do.
That’s great to hear. We try to tell people all the time that if you are only doing a job or two, why pay double for a tool that you will only use once. HF worked, that is great,
I got the Pittsburgh Pro 3/8 10 Piece Chrome Socket Set (Metric)
It is IMPOSSIBLE to get the sockets off the plastic frame holding them. I’ve twisted and pulled as hard as as I can. I even tried pliers and I have a strong grip. This is insane. Who in hell designed this useless crap? I can drill out the frame but then the sockets aren’t in order and I Already have a box of random sockets. I don’t need more. This set is a total gyp. Shame on whoever specified the design. Boooo!
Unfortunately I didn’t keep the sales slip since I didn’t think anything could go wrong with lousy sockets, but Pittsburgh figured out a way. BTW, I can’t find Pittsburgh tools Anywhere in the net. I doubt they’re in Pittsburgh. Probably just a cover or YenYang Tools in China.
Sorry but I have to laugh at this as I went through the exact same thing with a Craftsman and Kobalt set I bought a while back. There is nothing more frustrating.
This company is USELESS. They advertise a very nice gantry crane at a very attractive price on their website which states that the item can only be purchased at their stores. When I call one of their stores I just get a run around finally being referred back to the website———-which says it’s only sold in stores……………
What a load of bs!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will NEVER even try to do business with this USELESS company again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My Harbor Freight chop saw caught on fire the first time I used it which was days after the warranty expires. Total junk and dangerous.