Sun-room rehab. I got a little carried away today.

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 8, 2015 7:49 AM CT

There’s a saying that all you need is a spark to start a fire or a little nudge to push you in the direction of starting something new. Today was that day.

My house is over a 100 years old and there is always something to do. For this project, it’s the sun room. This area of the house was an addition after it was originally built, I’m going to say sometimes in the 40’s. The reason I say that is the walls were covered in a wood fiber board of sorts and the ceiling was essentially the same material with a design on it. Over the past 6 months, the ceiling started to sag and I knew it was going to come down but I had other things going on at the time so I ignored it. Saturday morning, it finally failed and I woke up to it being on the floor.

My wife came in and looked at the state and agreed that it was time and let’s just gut the room and start from scratch an rehab it. Let the destruction begin.

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99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 8, 2015 8:03 AM CT

With any old house, you’ll find interesting things when you open the walls. 24″ on center, dead electrical going no where. A soil stack that’s original to the house, buy yet existed outside of the original framing of the house,

The plan for the space is to raise the ceiling height, due to it being a relatively small space so it get’s opened up. Today I’m going to remove the furring strips that held the original ceiling. I’m also going to remove the ceiling joists as well. They are not tied into the rafters, They are literally just hanging on the top of the wall with one or 2 nails a piece. I’ll plan on reusing those to add structure to the walls. I’m also going to build a bulkhead around the soil stack to hide that, Going to try to insulate it as well.

LoganMember since Jun 2015Nov 8, 2015 9:38 AM CT

Hope it turns out well my house is only 15 years old we are starting to have problems with it the contractor cut lot of corners while building it

comp56Member since Sep 2014Nov 8, 2015 10:43 AM CT

or in our case 8″ centers rough timbers of 3″x 6″ built like a tank….but I’m assuming the timber was probably takin right from the land it was built on and milled cost a fortune to redo it the same way…..

BigmikezMember since Jun 2013Nov 8, 2015 12:23 PM CT

Looks like a heck of a project 99!! My grandparents house was built in 1906 I believe and man there’s no such thing as an easy fix there were workin on there restroom now and I see some obstacles in our near future lol!! Keep the oics coming man I can’t wait to c the after pics:}

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 8, 2015 5:45 PM CT

Today was an interesting day. More of a discovery and learning experience, We pulled some newspapers from the wall and found a date of July 13,1935

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We removed the joists and furring strips so we could get access to the rest of the wall and strip the left over remaining cedar shakes that were left on the house. As we were getting ready to remove the shakes we noticed that the rafters were cut flush to the shingles and then toe nailed through the shingles onto the wall. Once we removed the shakes and looked at the rafters, I’m truly amazed on how it’s managed to stay connected to the house. We decided to make a ledger board and put it under the rafters for additional support. The verticals are essentially going to be nailers for the drywall but they will help to support the ledger board as well.

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I’ve given more thought of why the soil stack does not completely exist within the framing of the house. I believe the house was built without any indoor plumbing and the soil stack was later added during the addition. This would explain why it was such a hack job.

It was a productive day, I managed to get all of the dead electrical out and take all of the waste material up to my dad’s and throw it on his burn pile. Next weekend will consist of building the bulkhead, figuring out what we will be doing for lighting and electrical and then putting up all of the nailers for the drywall

MikeyBMember since Dec 2014Nov 8, 2015 8:30 PM CT

Looks like a fun project 99,, keep the pics coming, love the old stuff

NERemodelingMember since Aug 2014Nov 9, 2015 12:38 AM CT

Demo day is always the best!! Looking good

Poisonfangs85Member since Feb 2015Nov 9, 2015 4:29 AM CT

I love finding old items in walls. The things I found were mostly old whiskey bottles from the guy that framed the place, it showed! I’m excited to see the progress, keep up the good work.

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 9, 2015 9:18 PM CT

Completely forgot that we also found a bunch of pantie hose stuffed in the walls. 🙂

comp56Member since Sep 2014Nov 9, 2015 9:30 PM CT

ya fun finding stuff for sure we found some stuff during our reno’s to 1909 newspapers on the back of stairs I replaced so when we were doing our living room wife suggested we take and put a picture of us with our names and date in one of the walls…..not sure anyone will come across it but ya never know…..at least they will see what we looked like while we did what we did…..

rrich1Member since Jun 2015Nov 12, 2015 9:50 PM CT

i plan to do that to my sun room in the spring. taking out over half the windows, re drywalling it, and putting new carpet it. it is supposed to be the kids toy room.

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 13, 2015 10:21 PM CT

Getting ready to get back to it on Saturday morning. Just need to go to my brothers to get my table saw back and then off to HD to grab some material.

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 15, 2015 9:35 PM CT

Made some good progress this weekend. Added studs to the knee and gable walls to put the framing back to 16″ on center. Started the framing for the bulkhead as well as the nailers for the ceiling. Roughed in the electrical for the lighting and finally insulated everything and foamed up the crevices. Huge difference. I was sweating in there when I was up on the ladder working on the ceiling. 🙂

Doing all the framing gave me a reason to break out my framing nailer. I love that gun, It’s a beast but it works great.

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BigmikezMember since Jun 2013Nov 17, 2015 9:17 AM CT

cant wait to c the final finish man good job!

IlliniMember since Aug 2012Nov 17, 2015 9:59 PM CT

Looking good!

stainlessstroker95Member since Aug 2015Nov 17, 2015 11:36 PM CT

Cool project.

Justin HernandezMember since Apr 2015Nov 19, 2015 11:23 PM CT

Good job man!! Not that many 100 year old houses here if any at all. Looks like your ready to cover it up

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 20, 2015 11:06 AM CT

Yes, getting very close, I just need to put in some nailers around the kitchen window for drywall and relocate an electrical duplex and then I’ll be rocking it on Monday or Tuesday

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 23, 2015 3:21 PM CT

Made a lot of progress today. Pulled up the water damaged Pergo floor and then the original linoleum. We exposed the original hardwood but we’ve decided to tile it instead. Once that was done, we insulated the ceiling and finished off the bulkhead. Going to sheet rock in the morning.

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BigmikezMember since Jun 2013Nov 23, 2015 6:33 PM CT

Half way there man! Looking good!

BigmikezMember since Jun 2013Nov 23, 2015 6:33 PM CT

U gonna do the tile yourself 99?

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 23, 2015 7:29 PM CT

Thanks Mike!

Yes, I’ve done tile in both of the bathrooms as well as the mudroom. This will be pretty easy to do since it’s just a big rectangle. So no complex cuts or angles to deal with. I actually enjoy tiling, once you get the initial layout down it goes pretty quick. The biggest worry is not to tile yourself into a corner. 🙂

Justin HernandezMember since Apr 2015Nov 23, 2015 11:21 PM CT

Looks good. Its crazy how small a room gets once the drywall is hung, when the studs are exposed it feels so much bigger. The one thing I hate about tiling is cleaning the grout off its never ending wipe, wipe, wipe and theirs still more..lol

Poisonfangs85Member since Feb 2015Nov 24, 2015 7:30 AM CT

99_XC600 wrote:
Thanks Mike!
Yes, I’ve done tile in both of the bathrooms as well as the mudroom. This will be pretty easy to do since it’s just a big rectangle. So no complex cuts or angles to deal with. I actually enjoy tiling, once you get the initial layout down it goes pretty quick. The biggest worry is not to tile yourself into a corner. 🙂

Or forgetting your keys on the other side of the room after you prep/tile a floor. TIP: always carry a fishing pole haha.

regopitMember since Feb 2013Nov 24, 2015 9:04 AM CT

Where they 8×8 or 12X12 tiles that you pulled up?

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 24, 2015 9:16 AM CT

regopit wrote:
Where they 8×8 or 12X12 tiles that you pulled up?

They were 8×8. Why, do you want them? I can send them over. 🙂

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 24, 2015 9:20 AM CT

Justin Hernandez wrote:
Looks good. Its crazy how small a room gets once the drywall is hung, when the studs are exposed it feels so much bigger. The one thing I hate about tiling is cleaning the grout off its never ending wipe,
wipe, wipe and theirs still more..lol

The room isn’t that big too begin with, which is the main reason we vaulted the ceiling. It helps to open it up, but in the end the room is just 8 x 12.

Doing the grout is all about timing and having patience. After you float it in, you want to give it some time to setup a little but not too much that you’re having a hard time wiping the haze off the tile. Also selecting a tile that doesn’t have a porous finish is key as well, otherwise the grout haze gets into the surface and is nearly impossible to remove. I learned that lesson on the tile that I used for the full bathroom on the second floor.

FazzmanMember since Apr 2014Nov 24, 2015 11:03 AM CT

Looking great,Nice work. I recognize the Porter Cable Tigersaw on the floor 🙂 I love that little thing,works well.

regopitMember since Feb 2013Nov 24, 2015 3:38 PM CT

No you can keep them most tiles if not all that are 8X8 have asbestos in them. So if you ever come across them again wear a mask and hang some plastic .

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 24, 2015 6:10 PM CT

regopit wrote:
No you can keep them most tiles if not all that are 8X8 have asbestos in them. So if you ever come across them again wear a mask and hang some plastic .

Thanks for the heads up, Honestly I had no idea that it was a possibility.

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 24, 2015 6:12 PM CT

Fazzman wrote:
Looking great,Nice work. I recognize the Porter Cable Tigersaw on the floor 🙂 I love that little thing,works well.

Thanks, I just picked it up this weekend to help me with this project and to be used a pruning device for the snowmobile trails behind my house, It works well, I just need to pick up the 4.0 battery to give me some more run time,

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 24, 2015 6:14 PM CT

Managed to get all the sheetrock done today. It was too dark when I finished to take any good pictures. I’ll post some up in the morning.

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 25, 2015 8:25 AM CT

Hanging of the sheet rock went well. I had help from a buddy who had access to a drywall lift which was huge in getting the ceiling and high walls done. For everyone wondering about the transition point at the top of the bulkhead and the upper part of the wall. We will be installing a shelf along the entire length of the wall to disguise that there are 2 different elevations.

Now comes the fun part of mudding and taping the joints. 🙂

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regopitMember since Feb 2013Nov 25, 2015 10:37 AM CT

99_XC600 wrote:
Thanks for the heads up, Honestly I had no idea that it was a possibility.

No problem that’s why we are here that help each other out. when it comes to old homes you would be surprised the amount of material that has asbestos in it.

The sun roomn is looking good now let the fun begin.

FazzmanMember since Apr 2014Nov 25, 2015 11:13 AM CT

Our house was built in 1958,I know from the inspection report there are some things that have asbestos in them up in the attic. Im guessing as long as they arent disturbed by being cut or anything they will be ok.

BTW the PC tigersaw is awesome for pruning,in fact thats mostly what I use it for. I have the PC drill and impact too,they are pretty good tools for the lower cost. I have 2 of the 4.0 batteries,they last a good while I wish they had 6.0 or bigger batteries but the 4.0 seem to still provide good weight to balance ratio.

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 25, 2015 5:32 PM CT

Fazzman wrote:
Our house was built in 1958,I know from the inspection report there are some things that have asbestos in them up in the attic. Im guessing as long as they arent disturbed by being cut or anything they will be ok.

BTW the PC tigersaw is awesome for pruning,in fact thats mostly what I use it for. I have the PC drill and impact too,they are pretty good tools for the lower cost. I have 2 of the 4.0 batteries,they last a good while I wish they had 6.0 or bigger batteries but the 4.0 seem to still provide good weight to balance ratio.

I’m pretty happy with the PC lineup. It’s a very good value for what I use them for. So far I have the following

Impact – Qty 2

Drill

Recip Saw

Oscillating tool

Flashlight

The impact is a beast but I found myself using the Bosch 12v impact when doing the drywall just because it has a little more finesse and control with it. The PC goes from slow to full out beast mode and I was breaking the paper too easily.

FazzmanMember since Apr 2014Nov 25, 2015 5:39 PM CT

Good to know,I have the Bosch 12v line too. Yeah the PC impact needs a dual speed switch badly.

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 25, 2015 5:40 PM CT

Got started with the taping and compounding and then had to stop to deal with our bank after they called us to let us know that our account had been compromised and they had a put a freeze on it. It turns out that someone had fabricated a check with the account and routing number on it and then deposited it through a BOA ATM using the scan option.

BOA realized it was a bogus check after it hit our account. The amazing thing about it is that the check looked like it came from my wife’s checkbook, The giveaway among other things was the number on the check was 862 and the next check in my wife’s register was 258.

So we had to cancel the account, open a new one, transfer all of the funds back, get new ATM cards and now we need to update all of our direct deposit information.

I’m just glad that we caught it before going into Holiday weekend, it would have been a bigger disaster than it already was.

FazzmanMember since Apr 2014Nov 25, 2015 5:47 PM CT

Oh no man. Glad that it was able to be caught. Seems to be happening more and more these days.

krutonMember since Jun 2015Nov 25, 2015 5:52 PM CT

If people would put the same amount of effort into an honest days work as they do trying to scam and cheat people out of their hard earned money they would probably do pretty well for themselves, but I digress. Sun room is coming along nicely. Keep the updates coming.

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99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 25, 2015 7:49 PM CT

I give a lot of credit to my wife, she’s always looking at the accounts looking for fraudulent charges. It’s gotten to the point that we try to pay with cash for everything and reduce the use of electronic transfers.

Lately we have also been using a prepaid VISA that’s not tied into any of our accounts to pay for things online when needed. Even taking these measures, people still find a way to rob you. It’s getting to the point where I’m ready to start burying my money in the backyard, LOL

Justin HernandezMember since Apr 2015Nov 25, 2015 9:05 PM CT

Sorry to hear about your bank that stuff happens to everyone. My money is buried somewhere 🙂 Are you going to add more drywall screws? Code is 6” on center here and 8” on center for top and bottom plate. Whats your code?

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 25, 2015 9:56 PM CT

Yes, I went around this morning and added more screws. Yesterday was just getting everything up and in place.

Justin HernandezMember since Apr 2015Nov 25, 2015 10:42 PM CT

Okay cool just asking. I once ripped out a full 4×12 sheet of drywall which came out in one piece and there was only ten screws on the studs. I couldn’t believe it, the drywall looked nice and straight when it was on the wall talk about saving money on materials..lol

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 27, 2015 7:36 PM CT

Got everything taped and the 1st coat ( The Ugly Coat) of compound on. Just need to let everything dry and then start filling in on the 2nd coat and then start sanding.

Hooked up some temporary lighting while I was at it.

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Mondo1310Member since Jun 2015Nov 27, 2015 10:04 PM CT

What a transformation 99_XC600. Did the 12v Bosch do all the drywall??? Keep the pictures coming.

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 28, 2015 8:22 PM CT

Mondo1310 wrote:
What a transformation 99_XC600. Did the 12v Bosch do all the drywall??? Keep the pictures coming.

Thanks. For the most part it did. I started to use my 20v Porter Cable impact but found that I didn’t have enough control with it so I switched back to the Bosch. I love that little gun.

99_XC600Member since Jun 2015Nov 29, 2015 3:46 PM CT

Today I strapped on the mask and started everybody’s favorite part of doing drywall…the sanding. I went to HD and picked up some sanding sponges and sanded everything by hand. I prefer the sponges over the pole sander. I always have issues with the pole sander flipping over or gouging the surface, I need to hit the transition points where the ceiling hits the wall with a layer of mud. Since they are not a 90* I hit one side of the angle first and let it dry. Going to let the dust settle and then clean everything up before I do my final fill.

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comp56Member since Sep 2014Nov 29, 2015 4:21 PM CT

ya I hate it you got that right, I use my shop vac and a dust deputy beside the sponge sanding block pretty much did 4 hours of sanding and clean as a whistle worked great…….