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NPS 2017 has been officially confirmed for June 7th.
Putting in time off request for work now! Dan and Eric, keep Periscope running please so we can get a peek.
I know I’m just dreaming but I’d like to see a dual battery Masonry chop saw. Stihl has one and it looks pretty cool.
Rob from concord carpenter just put up a little nsp2017 preview video on youtube. I don’t know how much insider info he has but sounds like milwaukee is going to keep focusing on woodworking.
Lol we’ll see @Biggie, was reading just today that the woodworking crowd is likely to be disappointed.
Yea I work with steel so that would be fine by me. I was actually a little disappointed after watching the video.
Bmill25 wrote:
On 5/25/2017 at 11:42 PM, Bmill25 said:I know I’m just dreaming but I’d like to see a dual battery Masonry chop saw. Stihl has one and it looks pretty cool.
With milwaukees complete lack of experience in that area I’m not sure milAukee is the best brand to make something like this
Fuel barrel grip jigsaw and Starlock OMT, then red can have more of my money. Also anticipating a gen2 Fuel high torque impact.
Gen 2 M12 Fuel drills/impacts that go on a serious diet would be received enthusiastically by yours truly as well.
2 bat ope….next gen drill/impact…new lights…storage……hand tools….sander…..I hope Milwaukee proves me wrong….cuz then that will push Dewalt,if it’s ho hum…then Dewalt will rest till another year…….I’m hoping Dewalt hammers down on 20vmax and flex….but not likely ….I see “tool connect wifi thing” as a major part …..god I hope I’m wrong….
Biggie wrote:
21 hours ago, Biggie said:Rob from concord carpenter just put up a little nsp2017 preview video on youtube. I don’t know how much insider info he has but sounds like milwaukee is going to keep focusing on woodworking.
I found out he is the one who said his adjustable shoes on his reciprocating saw kept breaking.
Many are saying a sander and cordless table saw are coming. I wouldn’t be surprised if a cordless router and tracksaw show up.
Someone claimed they saw a picture of an m12 surge and a new storage system. Milwaukee posted some pictures of nps setup on instagram and supposedly they were seen on the last picture.
I’m skeptical of an M12 Surge but that would be really cool. If they have more storage system for God’s sake I hope it’s an actual system and not “here’s a giant tub, here’s a workshop box, here’s a bucket, here’s an organizer, here’s some bags; there, you have storage, buy lots of it”.
Jronman wrote:
20 minutes ago, Jronman said:
Many are saying a sander and cordless table saw are coming. I wouldn’t be surprised if a cordless router and tracksaw show up.
Sorry but I would much rather see a corded table saw and track saw from Milwaukee proven, before a cordless version.
I was hoping for a cordless router, but after using Ridgids, cordless router I would not bother buying one. If they updated the M18 jig saw, I would grab that.
SetBuilder wrote:
9 minutes ago, SetBuilder said:
Sorry but I would much rather see a corded table saw and track saw from Milwaukee proven, before a cordless version.
Like their 10″ mitre? Oh wait… yes I agree with your point ?
Bremon wrote:
3 minutes ago, Bremon said:Like their 10″ mitre? Oh wait… yes I agree with your point ?
Good point! I was all set to buy one till some of the reviews started coming in and then I decided against a cordless miter saw.
I think the bearings are going in my Dewalt non slider 12in saw. So I am currently undecided on what to replace it with. I may hold out and see what the Festool Kapax 60 goes for or just buy another Dewalt. I have another Dewalt 12in slider that is in great shape.
I’d imagine we’ll see a one key heavy tool show
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Bremon wrote:
1 hour ago, Bremon said:I’m skeptical of an M12 Surge but that would be really cool. If they have more storage system for God’s sake I hope it’s an actual system and not “here’s a giant tub, here’s a workshop box, here’s a bucket, here’s an organizer, here’s some bags; there, you have storage, buy lots of it”.
Holdzall (or Carryzall?) the new rival to Tough System and Ridgid pro boxes
@SetBuilder if you want a good cordless miter it would be hard to go wrong with the 790 and if you decide you don’t like the cordless aspect you can always use the cord adapter.
Smaller M12 Fuel fasteners would be great, or even a response to Makita’s subcompact 18v lineup.
SetBuilder wrote:
3 hours ago, SetBuilder said:I was hoping for a cordless router, but after using Ridgids, cordless router I would not bother buying one. If they updated the M18 jig saw, I would grab that.
M18 jigsaw definitely needs an upgrade. I’d like to see two brushless jigsaws, the m12 could use orbital and brushless. M18 needs to add an LED and brushless.
Jronman wrote:
8 hours ago, Jronman said:I found out he is the one who said his adjustable shoes on his reciprocating saw kept breaking.
Many are saying a sander and cordless table saw are coming. I wouldn’t be surprised if a cordless router and tracksaw show up.
Someone claimed they saw a picture of an m12 surge and a new storage system. Milwaukee posted some pictures of nps setup on instagram and supposedly they were seen on the last picture.
Nah that’s just Eric from MechanicalHub dreaming out loud lol
kornomaniac wrote:
17 hours ago, kornomaniac said:With milwaukees complete lack of experience in that area I’m not sure milAukee is the best brand to make something like this
Not that they should or shouldn’t do those tools, but everyone started with zero experience at some point
Even though I am no longer on any Milwaukee Platform, I feel compelled to put in my $.02
They need to seriously fix the size, weight and balance of most drills and impacts. Everyone else has done it, it’s their turn.
Unified, interlocking storage would be awesome. Especially if they can find a good fit between a Tough Sytem and a Tstak.
Design a better M12 handle that doesn’t point up, seriously, how did that seem like a good idea?
I don’t think Milwaukee needs sub compact 18v, they have an amazing line of 12v, they just need better design and lighter weight. My 18v sub compact makita is way lighter than my old M12 Fuel impact!
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Gotta agree with the idea of competition to the tough system. The Milwaukee tool box that is supposed to compete with the tough system just doesn’t cut it. I won’t be in the market for a “carryzall” because I bought the tough system and couldn’t be happier.
Bmill25 wrote:
1 hour ago, Bmill25 said:Gotta agree with the idea of competition to the tough system. The Milwaukee tool box that is supposed to compete with the tough system just doesn’t cut it. I won’t be in the market for a “carryzall” because I bought the tough system and couldn’t be happier.
Id say make the system like Tanos has done with the Systainer. Allow companies to sell their products in Systainers. Festool is probably the most well know company that uses them. I wouldn’t mind having a modular box standard or at least compatibility with tough system.
New batteries with new 21700 cells apparently. I wonder if they’ll get Fuel branding or what the new slick buzzwords will be for them.
A quick google search shows 21700 cells were announced only 5 months ago so I’m curious to see Milwaukee’s roadmap for these to hit the market.
Bremon wrote:
1 hour ago, Bremon said:New batteries with new 21700 cells apparently. I wonder if they’ll get Fuel branding or what the new slick buzzwords will be for them.
A quick google search shows 21700 cells were announced only 5 months ago so I’m curious to see Milwaukee’s roadmap for these to hit the market.
Lol yep you can count on Milwaukee to put their buzzwords on them puppies
Confirmation of biiig 21700 cells means all of a sudden can’t wait to give Milwaukee more money lol.
Carbide Torch blades to be announced tomorrow apparently.
Bremon wrote:
Carbide Torch blades to be announced tomorrow apparently.
That’s awesome I love the torch blades
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I wouldn’t mind a portable power station myself… That’s pretty genius of DeWalt doing that
HiltiWpg wrote:
11 hours ago, HiltiWpg said:Even though I am no longer on any Milwaukee Platform, I feel compelled to put in my $.02
They need to seriously fix the size, weight and balance of most drills and impacts. Everyone else has done it, it’s their turn.
Unified, interlocking storage would be awesome. Especially if they can find a good fit between a Tough Sytem and a Tstak.
Design a better M12 handle that doesn’t point up, seriously, how did that seem like a good idea?
I don’t think Milwaukee needs sub compact 18v, they have an amazing line of 12v, they just need better design and lighter weight. My 18v sub compact makita is way lighter than my old M12 Fuel impact!
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Just curious when you say they need to fix the size, weight, and balance on most drills and impacts are you talking m12 platform?
Bremon wrote:
1 hour ago, Bremon said:Carbide Torch blades to be announced tomorrow apparently.
sounds great but I would guess they won’t be cheap.
Bremon wrote:
2 hours ago, Bremon said:Confirmation of biiig 21700 cells means all of a sudden can’t wait to give Milwaukee more money lol.
These the same ones in the flex 3.0/9.0, LiHD, and Core?
Those are 20700, the Milwaukee ones are the same length; 70 mm but 1mm wider (21mm instead of 20mm). Doesn’t sound like much but these should but be a definite improvement! 5% more width but 10% more volume to the cell if my math is correct lol.
Bremon wrote:
Confirmation of biiig 21700 cells means all of a sudden can’t wait to give Milwaukee more money lol.
These won’t be for another year, NPS 2018 at the earliest.
The.Handyman wrote:
44 minutes ago, The.Handyman said:
These won’t be for another year, NPS 2018 at the earliest.
Revealed or on the market?
Bremon wrote:
Revealed or on the market?
The way it sounded from Toolaholic, Milwaukee was skipping 20700 and going to 21700 but that wouldn’t occur for another year or so.
Doesn’t mean they couldn’t have some made for the show to reveal.
We will see in 6hrs!
The.Handyman wrote:
6 hours ago, The.Handyman said:The way it sounded from Toolaholic, Milwaukee was skipping 20700 and going to 21700 but that wouldn’t occur for another year or so.
Doesn’t mean they couldn’t have some made for the show to reveal.
We will see in 6hrs!
Well gives me a lot more time to make money to spend on whatever we see today lol.
Bremon wrote:
12 hours ago, Bremon said:Confirmation of biiig 21700 cells means all of a sudden can’t wait to give Milwaukee more money lol.
If the numbers that I saw for 21700s (4.75 Ah, 3.6v) are true, that means they can get 9 Ah with two rows of five cells instead of three. So it’s possible for slightly smaller 9Ah batteries, which is an amazing feat. It’s also something that wouldn’t work with flexvolt (number of cells has to be divisible by three) so if I’m Milwaukee, I’m jumping on that, like, yesterday.
On the other hand, it also means 5/15 Ah flexvolt batteries are possible so there’s that…
Yeah we’ve already known 12.0s and 15.0s are possible for FlexVolt, @The.Handyman has made note of that. It’s also worth noting that the XR6.0 20v Max is just a touch shorter than the FlexVolt 6.0, and is longer, so an M18 9.0 with 21700 would not mean the batteries are any smaller.
Gen 2 high torque impact, one key and dumb key. 1400 ft lb.
Giant radius light similar to Dewalt’s wobble light.
M12 stapler
Bremon wrote:
7 minutes ago, Bremon said:Gen 2 high torque impact, one key and dumb key. 1400 ft lb.
Giant radius light similar to Dewalt’s wobble light.
M12 stapler
That radius light had 2 battery slots… very interesting. I beat it drains 1 battery, then auto-switches and drains 2nd battery. I’d also bet that it charges at least 1 of them. Then the bigger question… what else might get 2 batteries??
Yeah clearly M18x2 isn’t too much to expect on many high demand tools.
M18 Fuel Mud Mixer. Looks like a futuristic take on your typical corded drill used on mud. Looks ergonomic.
M12 Air Snake compressor for clearing clogs. 50 psi.
M18 Fuel Hackzall ?
M18 Fuel 7.25″ dual bevel mitre.
MODULAR STORAGE SYSTEM ? Dropping cinder blocks on ToughSystem, obliterating the box. Bounces off the red version. Easy to use recessed latch; one touch connection like Systainer instead of plastic crap yellow latches.
M18 Fuel drum cleaner
M12 Fuel ratchets ? 1/4″, 3/8″ and 1/2″
gen 2 M12 Fuel drill and impact
carbide Big Hawgs that can handle “hundreds of nails”
m12 soldering gun
m18 heat gun
m12 power source v2, charges m12 via USB as well as powering other devices via USB.
Finally a fuel hackzall! I’m liking the m12 stapler as well
Some nice tools and storage ,, but not oh! Damn! Look out Flexvolt!
Daniel Julian wrote:
4 hours ago, Daniel Julian said:That radius light had 2 battery slots… very interesting. I beat it drains 1 battery, then auto-switches and drains 2nd battery. I’d also bet that it charges at least 1 of them. Then the bigger question… what else might get 2 batteries??
9000 lumen, sequential charging. You’re a smart man.
Any timeframe on the storage boxes?
Bremon wrote:
M18 Fuel Mud Mixer. Looks like a futuristic take on your typical corded drill used on mud. Looks ergonomic.
M12 Air Snake compressor for clearing clogs. 50 psi.
M18 Fuel Hackzall [emoji7]
M18 Fuel 7.25″ dual bevel mitre.
MODULAR STORAGE SYSTEM [emoji7] Dropping cinder blocks on ToughSystem, obliterating the box. Bounces off the red version. Easy to use recessed latch; one touch connection like Systainer instead of plastic crap yellow latches.
M18 Fuel drum cleaner
M12 Fuel ratchets [emoji7] 1/4″, 3/8″ and 1/2″
gen 2 M12 Fuel drill and impact
carbide Big Hawgs that can handle “hundreds of nails”
m12 soldering gun
m18 heat gun
m12 power source v2, charges m12 via USB as well as powering other devices via USB.
I was not impressed with them dropping the cinder block on the ToughSystem storage case. The case they used was the cheap case made to meet a budget. It didn’t have the extra lid webbing and pressure release valve.
I would like to see the Ridgid Pro Tool box tested as well.
The new Milwaukee storage does look nice and I define see a lot of potential for growth. But, are they too late to the game? It will all depend on pricing. DeWalt’s 2 solutions have been out and proven with minimal issues. What has an issue DeWalt replaces.
FlexVolt has nothing to fear so far!
I agree with you @The.Handyman, the DS130 is not meant for that abuse; I carry lightweight stuff in mine, while impacts and sockets, Sawzalls, etc are in a DS150 which should be notably tougher. They are 2 years too late for me as I already have hundreds of dollars of ToughSystem but for a small setup I may be tempted to grab a few boxes and a tote; I love that compatibility. Also love the versatility of so many sizes vs standard width of other systems.
Im anticipating them being priced in the Systainer range if RedStick is anything to go off of lol.
Bremon wrote:
I agree with you [mention=51398]The.Handyman[/mention], the DS130 is not meant for that abuse; I carry lightweight stuff in mine, while impacts and sockets, Sawzalls, etc are in a DS150 which should be notably tougher. They are 2 years too late for me as I already have hundreds of dollars of ToughSystem but for a small setup I may be tempted to grab a few boxes and a tote; I love that compatibility. Also love the versatility of so many sizes vs standard width of other systems.
Im anticipating them being priced in the Systainer range if RedStick is anything to go off of lol.
I agree. They look great but just too late to the game for most.
I bet they will be pricy.