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New battery available at acme…dcb609.,,,$199. What’s amazing is it’s 180 wh as compared to Milwaukee 9ah at 162 wh …….yup yup
Not in the market…..but will check it out. You can get a Flexvolt kit with 2 batteries at HD, not quite seeing the value of the 9 volt [emoji15][emoji15][emoji15][emoji15]
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Probably not a lot of diy guys will buy….but in my world (framers) can’t wait for it to show up on my door step. Table saws,mitresaws,sds,power station….sounds unbelievable!
hummm Tool Craze is reporting the 9/3 is the same size as the 6/2…. even goes so far to say the same size cells…….
I’m kinda sure hes wrong…..
Well The 6.0 shows being 2.25lbs and the 9.0 at 2.8lbs so atleast we know there’s definitely a weight difference
I read the 9.0 is bigger and as A..joe says it is heavier….but wow on the 180wh..
If I was in the market for a high capacity battery, I would rather have 2 6ah (12 total) for $180 rather then 1 9ah (9 total) for $200
Cr8ondt wrote:
58 minutes ago, Cr8ondt said:hummm Tool Craze is reporting the 9/3 is the same size as the 6/2…. even goes so far to say the same size cells…….
I’m kinda sure hes wrong…..
He’s a fucking asswipe and would say anything a manufacturer asked him to say. I personally don’t even give him the benefit of a view. In this case he’s probably just being a whore.
I rank him right up there with Todd from TBB who gave a tool of the year award to a tool that had been completely recalled for being shitty.
Even though it makes him look like the jackass that he is, and anyone with half a brain can see and feel that they are clearly different, I’ve taken the liberty of deleting the link. Nothing against you, I know you aren’t familiar with the situation, I just don’t care for him after the shit he pulled here.
Conductor562 wrote:
18 minutes ago, Conductor562 said:
He’s a fucking asswipe and would say anything a manufacturer asked him to say. I personally don’t even give him the benefit of a view. In this case he’s probably just being a whore.
I rank him right up there with Todd from TBB who gave a tool of the year award to a tool that had been completely recalled for being shitty.
Even though it makes him look like the jackass that he is, and anyone with half a brain can see and feel that they are clearly different, I’ve taken the liberty of deleting the link. Nothing against you, I know you aren’t familiar with the situation, I just don’t care for him after the shit he pulled here.
lol its cool, just popped up on my news feed, thought it was worth a chuckle.
DaveJr. wrote:
34 minutes ago, DaveJr. said:If I was in the market for a high capacity battery, I would rather have 2 6ah (12 total) for $180 rather then 1 9ah (9 total) for $200
Haha Right!!! I agree, but these are made for the guys wanting the 3ah side of them…… poor bastards that want em for the miter gotta shell out $400!
Conductor…I agree I dislike tool craze guy…he is dishonest and carries the manufacturer nut sack………..I think a 2-pack of 9.0ah will go for $199-250..like the 6.0 Flexvolt goes for 149 for 1 ..but a 2pack is 179….
Conductor562 wrote:
1 hour ago, Conductor562 said:
He’s a fucking asswipe and would say anything a manufacturer asked him to say. I personally don’t even give him the benefit of a view. In this case he’s probably just being a whore.
I rank him right up there with Todd from TBB who gave a tool of the year award to a tool that had been completely recalled for being shitty.
Even though it makes him look like the jackass that he is, and anyone with half a brain can see and feel that they are clearly different, I’ve taken the liberty of deleting the link. Nothing against you, I know you aren’t familiar with the situation, I just don’t care for him after the shit he pulled here.
I still remember the welcome thread where he first posted and you rightly guessed the pronunciation of his name. Seemed like a cool guy. Pity it didn’t turn out that way…
dwain wrote:
4 minutes ago, dwain said:
I still remember the welcome thread where he first posted and you rightly guessed the pronunciation of his name. Seemed like a cool guy. Pity it didn’t turn out that way…
? I forgot about that. It’s not that he went out and did his own thing, there are lots of other blogs/channels I like and/or trust, it’s how he went about it.
For those of you that don’t know, Instead of taking his very brief experience with TIA and using it as a catalyst to do his own thing, he used TIA to start his own thing while doing it under the guise of it being for TIA. Dan and Eric gave him a shot to be a big part of TIA, and he quite intentionally laid the meat to them.
That’s really only part of the story, but that at least gives everyone an idea of where it started and one of the reasons why I can’t stomach his slimy, arm flailing, manufacturer’s tittie sucking, reviews. When you’ve been around the online tool community as long as we have, you know who’s being honest and who’s kissing ass.
Framer joe wrote:
14 hours ago, Framer joe said:New battery available at acme…dcb609.,,,$199. What’s amazing is it’s 180 wh as compared to Milwaukee 9ah at 162 wh …….yup yup
Dewalt is using the maximum voltage while Milwaukee is using the nominal one (20V vs 18V) as a reference point.
In fact, you can see it by a simple calculation :
Dewalt : 9Ah x 20 V = 180 Wh
Milwaukee : 9Ah x 18V = 162 Wh
So there is no difference in capacity between the two batteries.
Yep, I got bits and pieces of that drama, sucks….
Yeah the cells in the new 9/3 ah packs are the larger size, it will be slightly larger than the current flexvolt battery, it has to be right…?
Love the advance of battery tech, but I would take a slim 3.0 pack with the new cells over a fat pack with the current cells for my daily users….. That would be sweet.
KnarlyCarl wrote:
Yep, I got bits and pieces of that drama, sucks….
Yeah the cells in the new 9/3 ah packs are the larger size, it will be slightly larger than the current flexvolt battery, it has to be right…?
Love the advance of battery tech, but I would take a slim 3.0 pack with the new cells over a fat pack with the current cells for my daily users….. That would be sweet.
I thought there was word of a slim 3.0 m18 coming out[emoji848]. Or maybe I misunderstood.
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Framer joe wrote:
On 2016-12-29 at 5:16 PM, Framer joe said:New battery available at acme…dcb609.,,,$199. What’s amazing is it’s 180 wh as compared to Milwaukee 9ah at 162 wh …….yup yup
That watt hour rating is based off “20v Max” voltage. It’s a lie. Same reason my 2.0 batteries say 40 watt hours and a 4.0 says 80 watt hours. Typical Dewalt marketing BS, which imo is even worse than the red team “15x more runtime!” “100x strength” lol.
Either number not strictly correct. The cell manufacturer supplies voltage curves for various discharge rates, and one those should be integrated to calculate the energy available whether it’s the maximum or just for a particular tool.
That said, calculating energy from 18V is ignorance while using 20V is just a lie.
Does anyone already know with what tool(s) this battery (20V max 6,0Ah) will be bundled with as a kit ?
hence, we would also then know the abbreviation of battery (type)
e.g.
M2 was 2x 4,0Ah
P2 was 2x 5,0Ah
Reminder: one of worlds largest building fairs/trade show in Munich Germany as of Jan16th 2017
Dewalt (as all other major tools companies) have a big booth
I know some product managers there, maybe some “disclosed secrects” to be heard of;
For sure the new flexvolt sds hammer will be shown !
cheers
NicolasRamos wrote:
4 hours ago, NicolasRamos said:
I thought there was word of a slim 3.0 m18 coming outemoji848.png. Or maybe I misunderstood.
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That’s what I’ve heard too. I also heard it’s height is shorter then the current 2ah and a 12ah battery is in the works. I’ve been told is height is shorter then the 9ah
Pouet wrote:
Dewalt is using the maximum voltage while Milwaukee is using the nominal one (20V vs 18V) as a reference point.
In fact, you can see it by a simple calculation :
Dewalt : 9Ah x 20 V = 180 Wh
Milwaukee : 9Ah x 18V = 162 Wh
So there is no difference in capacity between the two batteries.
Typical dewalt BS marketing
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The high capacity battery’s are nice and I have 2 of the Milwaukee 9.0 but to use them on a drill, impac or a drywall gun forget. They are big bulky and heavy. They are great for my miter saw and lights.
As for tool craze two things pop into my head. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you and you don’t shit were you eat.
Makita_2233 wrote:
That’s what I’ve heard too. I also heard it’s height is shorter then the current 2ah and a 12ah battery is in the works. I’ve been told is height is shorter then the 9ah
Yeah I could swear it was talked about when the 6.0 was announced. I know I’m not confusing it with the m12 line.
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Makita_2233 wrote:
2 hours ago, Makita_2233 said:That’s what I’ve heard too. I also heard it’s height is shorter then the current 2ah and a 12ah battery is in the works. I’ve been told is height is shorter then the 9ah
Holy crap 12 ah! Pretty soon we’ll be strapping car batteries to our tools!
I notice everyone comparing the batteries between Milwaukee and DeWalt which one is this which one is that??? however if you have a power source the real question is what the tool can do with it?
I remember my racing days………….. give 5 gallons of CAM2 racing fuel to 2 people and the outcome can be very different with the same fuel
Racing Fuel= Battery
DaveJr. wrote:
1 hour ago, DaveJr. said:Holy crap 12 ah! Pretty soon we’ll be strapping car batteries to our tools!
Nah they would have to change the name to 16 volts max.
Makita_2233 wrote:
4 hours ago, Makita_2233 said:That’s what I’ve heard too. I also heard it’s height is shorter then the current 2ah and a 12ah battery is in the works. I’ve been told is height is shorter then the 9ah
That’s interesting… news to me
Cr8ondt wrote:
Nah they would have to change the name to 16 volts max.
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regopit wrote:
The high capacity battery’s are nice and I have 2 of the Milwaukee 9.0 but to use them on a drill, impac or a drywall gun forget. They are big bulky and heavy. They are great for my miter saw and lights.
As for tool craze two things pop into my head. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you and you don’t shit were you eat.
I have used the 9.0 on an impact drill before, no onsite power, and ran down my other packs. It’s funny how with the reduced weight of all the newer tools, a light weight impact suddenly feels like my Ridgid impact from 10 years ago!
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Conductor562 wrote:
He’s a fucking asswipe and would say anything a manufacturer asked him to say. I personally don’t even give him the benefit of a view. In this case he’s probably just being a whore.
I rank him right up there with Todd from TBB who gave a tool of the year award to a tool that had been completely recalled for being shitty.
Even though it makes him look like the jackass that he is, and anyone with half a brain can see and feel that they are clearly different, I’ve taken the liberty of deleting the link. Nothing against you, I know you aren’t familiar with the situation, I just don’t care for him after the shit he pulled here.
My friend Chris and I still put on Javier’s pc building video for laughs! He put a goddamn $800 liquid cooled GPU in an crap case he reused, cause a new case was too expensive! [emoji23]
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NicolasRamos wrote:
3 minutes ago, NicolasRamos said:
I have used the 9.0 on an impact drill before, no onsite power, and ran down my other packs. It’s funny how with the reduced weight of all the newer tools, a light weight impact suddenly feels like my Ridgid impact from 10 years ago!
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Someone on here said it before, don’t rememder who, but the tools are getting smaller and lighter and the batteries are getting bigger and heavier!
NicolasRamos wrote:
47 minutes ago, NicolasRamos said:
I have used the 9.0 on an impact drill before, no onsite power, and ran down my other packs. It’s funny how with the reduced weight of all the newer tools, a light weight impact suddenly feels like my Ridgid impact from 10 years ago!
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Yeah I keep that big boy to my SDS drill and circ saw and maybe the sawzall and lights.
Been putting off getting a couple slim packs for the every day users, but I may wait if this recent 3ah pack news is true
DaveJr. wrote:
43 minutes ago, DaveJr. said:Someone on here said it before, don’t rememder who, but the tools are getting smaller and lighter and the batteries are getting bigger and heavier!
Yeah, but there’s still the slim packs available
KnarlyCarl wrote:
Yeah, but there’s still the slim packs available
Yeah I’m going to have to just get at least one 2.0 until the rumor comes true.
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KnarlyCarl wrote:
7 hours ago, KnarlyCarl said:
That’s interesting… news to me
It’s just a rumour I’ve heard from a few Milwaukee reps in Australia. Not sure on how ture it is
Ya …I got sucked in to a Dewalt ad I read…I forgot the marketing bs…I honestly thought the new 9ah was bigger cells or something to beat Milwaukee 162wh….I am just a framer who loves tools……argh….still want it though…lol
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Framer joe wrote:
14 hours ago, Framer joe said:Ya …I got sucked in to a Dewalt ad I read…I forgot the marketing bs…I honestly thought the new 9ah was bigger cells or something to beat Milwaukee 162wh….I am just a framer who loves tools……argh….still want it though…lol
It does use bigger cells. 20700 cells instead of 18650. They are physically bigger and have benefits but currently watt hours isn’t one of them.
looks my questions were overlooked with so many comments in this thread
Does anyone already know with what tool(s) this battery (20V max 6,0Ah) will be bundled with as a kit ?
hence, we would also then know the abbreviation of battery (type)
e.g.
M2 was 2x 4,0Ah
P2 was 2x 5,0Ah
Reminder: one of worlds largest building fairs/trade show in Munich Germany as of Jan16th 2017
Dewalt (as all other major tools companies) have a big booth
I know some product managers there, maybe some “disclosed secrects” to be heard of;
For sure the new flexvolt sds hammer will be shown !
cheers
NicolasRamos wrote:
On 12/31/2016 at 1:08 AM, NicolasRamos said:
I thought there was word of a slim 3.0 m18 coming outemoji848.png. Or maybe I misunderstood.
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I really hope they come out with some slim 3.0 M18 batteries, I have a 1.5Ah and 2.0Ah slim pack and I want more for when I have to use something a few times and not all day. The big 3.0’s that came with the jig saw just make a heavy tool even heavier, I can’t imagine running a 9.0 on it.
regopit wrote:
The high capacity battery’s are nice and I have 2 of the Milwaukee 9.0 but to use them on a drill, impac or a drywall gun forget. They are big bulky and heavy. They are great for my miter saw and lights.
As for tool craze two things pop into my head. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you and you don’t shit were you eat.
Go great on an angle grinder and circ saw
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midogrumpy wrote:
2 hours ago, midogrumpy said:looks my questions were overlooked with so many comments in this thread
Does anyone already know with what tool(s) this battery (20V max 6,0Ah) will be bundled with as a kit ?
hence, we would also then know the abbreviation of battery (type)
e.g.
M2 was 2x 4,0Ah
P2 was 2x 5,0Ah
Reminder: one of worlds largest building fairs/trade show in Munich Germany as of Jan16th 2017
Dewalt (as all other major tools companies) have a big booth
I know some product managers there, maybe some “disclosed secrects” to be heard of;
For sure the new flexvolt sds hammer will be shown !
cheers
Not overlooked, my guess is nobody knows for sure. So I guess when you see it you’ll know.
JimboS1ice wrote:
Go great on an angle grinder and circ saw
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I use the 9.0’s primarily on the braking grinder, 7 1/4″ fuel, m18 hackzall, and Hole Hawg, and lighting.
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NicolasRamos wrote:
I use the 9.0’s primarily on the braking grinder, 7 1/4″ fuel, m18 hackzall, and Hole Hawg, and lighting.
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Recip too
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jtkendall wrote:
6 hours ago, jtkendall said:
I really hope they come out with some slim 3.0 M18 batteries, I have a 1.5Ah and 2.0Ah slim pack and I want more for when I have to use something a few times and not all day. The big 3.0’s that came with the jig saw just make a heavy tool even heavier, I can’t imagine running a 9.0 on it.
They’ve announced a slim 3.0Ah just not released it yet for marketing reasons. I’ve never felt the need for a smaller battery on the M18 jigsaw and I don’t think the 9.0 Ah would make a big difference since the tool is almost always resting on a workpiece. Do you use a jigsaw on vertical surfaces frequently?
NicolasRamos wrote:
On 12/31/2016 at 0:08 AM, NicolasRamos said:
I thought there was word of a slim 3.0 m18 coming outemoji848.png. Or maybe I misunderstood.
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theres a compact 3.0 m12 coming out
jeffmcmillan wrote:
8 minutes ago, jeffmcmillan said:They’ve announced a slim 3.0Ah just not released it yet for marketing reasons. I’ve never felt the need for a smaller battery on the M18 jigsaw and I don’t think the 9.0 Ah would make a big difference since the tool is almost always resting on a workpiece. Do you use a jigsaw on vertical surfaces frequently?
No and to be honest I haven’t used it that often or in a while, I just remember it feeling off when I did use it. It could have been a different reason I didn’t like it, but for some reason my mind is just remembering the battery being a problem/annoyance. I’ll have to pull it out and use it to see if I can remember what the issue was.
Jronman wrote:
1 hour ago, Jronman said:theres a compact 3.0 m12 coming out
It’s been out for some time.
Jronman wrote:
theres a compact 3.0 m12 coming out
It’s already out
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Jronman wrote:
theres a compact 3.0 m12 coming out
Yeah and a full size 6.0, but I was certain there was buzz about a compact m18 3.0, and that they would be out by winter 2016.
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Does any one know how many amps you can go up in the same size 60v 2ah pack ? Like in 20v max the 3ah,4ah,5ah are all the same size battery ….
