New Makita TD170

I was able to snag the newest and most powerful impact Makita has just come out with for a killer deal.

$178 shipped to me from Japan on Ebay – Seller Yosh-set

This is being called the ‘King of Impacts’ by Makita and is more powerful, if only slightly, than the TD148/XDT09.

I will keep you all posted if I get slapped with any import fees.

What are the torque ratings on this? And what drive?

Jimbo

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Same power rating of 175nm as the TD148/XDT09 impact drive, however it is even smaller and has 6 different impact modes programmed in. Even though they share the same power rating, it does drive screws/fasteners slightly quicker than the TD148/XDT09!

If you want more info, including head to head video comparisons, check out @toolpig on instagram.

http://www.makita.co.jp/product/li_ion/td170d/td170d.html

http://www.makita.co.jp/product/li_ion/td160d/td160d.html

Maybe this wil do the job 😉

Would love to see a side by side shot of it with the dt148.  I love how small that one is, so Id like to see a size comparison.

mtnkid85 wrote:

On 21-4-2016 at 7:34 AM, mtnkid85 said:

Would love to see a side by side shot of it with the dt148.  I love how small that one is, so Id like to see a size comparison.

 the dtd 148 is 119mm long and the dtd170 is 117mm long, not much of a difference

Higher rpms then I’d say ?

The.Handyman wrote:

Same power rating of 175nm as the TD148/XDT09 impact drive, however it is even smaller and has 6 different impact modes programmed in. Even though they share the same power rating, it does drive screws/fasteners slightly quicker than the TD148/XDT09!

 

If you want more info, including head to head video comparisons, check out@toolpig on instagram.

Yeah I’ve been watching the action, pretty impressive results, cool colors you can get too!

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Had anyone an idea what the 6th mode is ?

There is 4 power modes. Theres the ‘tec’ mode for self drilling screws ( as the td148 had before ) and then there is a 6th mode which in japanese reads ‘raku raku mode ‘.

Anyone n idea ? 😀

Raku Raku is a sound effect that means “too easy”, o an adjective meaning “easily”. Maybe a light duty mode?

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@The.Handyman what are your thoughts on the impact? i am looking at them again and am really interested in getting one. 

This is a strange release. Same torque, same RPM, almost same size. I don’t get it.

dwain wrote:

This is a strange release. Same torque, same RPM, almost same size. I don’t get it.

More modes on it. Not sure if that was the main reason for it or not.

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rrich1 wrote:

On ‎7‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 11:49 PM, rrich1 said:

@The.Handyman what are your thoughts on the impact? i am looking at them again and am really interested in getting one. 

Hey rrich1, I absolutely love this impact. It is insanely powerful yet has a more compact head than my tiny Bosch 12v impact. The modes are very helpful once you get used to using them. I do not regret the $180 spent on it. I paid the same amount for my Makita oil-impulse soft impact, which has many modes as well. I will say the TDT170 is a very quiet impact when in use. Much more so than my DeWalt brushless model it replaced. I have not used the new 3 speed DeWalt to compare.

I actually use my Makita oil-impulse soft impact driver more as I have fallen in love with the speed and control it has. I do a lot of woodworking and cabinet building as I am a trim carpenter. I use the TDT170 for everything else.

dwain wrote:

On ‎7‎/‎12‎/‎2016 at 5:11 AM, dwain said:

This is a strange release. Same torque, same RPM, almost same size. I don’t get it.

It may have nearly the same specs but I think Makita found ways to tweak it for the better and opted to do so. Being slightly smaller and with a few extra modes they managed to create an impact that is smaller than any 12v impact head. When compared head to head with the TDT148, it comes out with the victory for speed and power while under a load. The 2 are very close, but the TDT170 is more powerful. Compared to every other impact on the market, the TDT148 blew all others away in comparison tests done by users. Now, the TDT170 has bested it.

The.Handyman wrote:

 

Hey rrich1, I absolutely love this impact. It is insanely powerful yet has a more compact head than my tiny Bosch 12v impact. The modes are very helpful once you get used to using them. I do not regret the $180 spent on it. I paid the same amount for my Makita oil-impulse soft impact, which has many modes as well. I will say the TDT170 is a very quiet impact when in use. Much more so than my DeWalt brushless model it replaced. I have not used the new 3 speed DeWalt to compare.

 

I actually use my Makita oil-impulse soft impact driver more as I have fallen in love with the speed and control it has. I do a lot of woodworking and cabinet building as I am a trim carpenter. I use the TDT170 for everything else.

If you had to pick between the oil impulse and the 170 which would you choose. I’m trying to decide between them as I dont think I really need both. I have a xdt08 as well. The quietness of the impulse is what is driving me to get it. Doesn’t the 148 and 170 have the same type of speed controls as the impulse?

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I would say get the Oil-impulse driver! Especially if you already have the xdt08. You will be impressed. If you don’t need the max torque the TDT170 offers then the oil-impulse is for you. It really is insanely quiet and such a pleasure to use. The feathering controls of the trigger are fantastic. I have grown to love the pulse aspect of the impact. The controls on the oil-impulse are the same as the TDT148. The TDT170 adds a few extra controls. I am going from my memory on the controls right now as I don’t have them in front of me.

The.Handyman wrote:

I would say get the Oil-impulse driver! Especially if you already have the xdt08. You will be impressed. If you don’t need the max torque the TDT170 offers then the oil-impulse is for you. It really is insanely quiet and such a pleasure to use. The feathering controls of the trigger are fantastic. I have grown to love the pulse aspect of the impact. The controls on the oil-impulse are the same as the TDT148. The TDT170 adds a few extra controls. I am going from my memory on the controls right now as I don’t have them in front of me.

Thanks a lot I appreciate it. Nice to actually hear from someone who has both.

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From what I’ve discussed with Makita tool reps and online, apparently there were complaints about the large step-up in rpm/ipm between the medium setting and the high / max setting (3rd position) on the TD148 / XDT09Z.  The TD170 / XDT12Z has a fourth step inserted in between med/hi that alleviates this concern.

Again, from much time researching online, it appears the “A” – Assist mode is meant for longer fasteners, where the screw will be driven more slowly at first start until it hits the required resistance, then it will speed up and start impacting.  Slow ‘n go at first, then rock n’ roll.

“T” / Tek / Tech mode is the opposite.  It speeds up initial rotation so self-tappers can get started, then it starts impacting.

I have a TD170 in green coming from Japan from the same seller as listed above.  Besides the cool color and uniqueness of having Japanese lettered buttons, I wanted to be sure to get an impact made in Japan. 

My concern appears to have been misplaced, because so far from what I’ve seen all of the XDT12Z’s sold here in the U.S. have also been made in Japan.  So was my Mak XWT08Z 1/2″ Impact Wrench.  Unsure of what the actual made-in-Japan component % has to be in Japan to qualify to be listed as “Made…” there, but its nice to start to see more and more tools coming out from there instead of China. 

P.S.  What’s interesting is that on most sites or through most eBay sellers, the TD148 has a higher list price and is selling for a bit more than the TD170.  Wonder why…?

I have just about all the new impacts out including  the triple  hammer  and the td170  is still  my favorite  I love it

rcxrc wrote:

23 hours ago, rcxrc said:

From what I’ve discussed with Makita tool reps and online, apparently there were complaints about the large step-up in rpm/ipm between the medium setting and the high / max setting (3rd position) on the TD148 / XDT09Z.  The TD170 / XDT12Z has a fourth step inserted in between med/hi that alleviates this concern.

 

Again, from much time researching online, it appears the “A” – Assist mode is meant for longer fasteners, where the screw will be driven more slowly at first start until it hits the required resistance, then it will speed up and start impacting.  Slow ‘n go at first, then rock n’ roll.

 

“T” / Tek / Tech mode is the opposite.  It speeds up initial rotation so self-tappers can get started, then it starts impacting.

 

I have a TD170 in green coming from Japan from the same seller as listed above.  Besides the cool color and uniqueness of having Japanese lettered buttons, I wanted to be sure to get an impact made in Japan. 

 

My concern appears to have been misplaced, because so far from what I’ve seen all of the XDT12Z’s sold here in the U.S. have also been made in Japan.  So was my Mak XWT08Z 1/2″ Impact Wrench.  Unsure of what the actual made-in-Japan component % has to be in Japan to qualify to be listed as “Made…” there, but its nice to start to see more and more tools coming out from there instead of China. 

 

P.S.  What’s interesting is that on most sites or through most eBay sellers, the TD148 has a higher list price and is selling for a bit more than the TD170.  Wonder why…?

They were selling dt170 in the USA with made in China on the box but the tool sticker said made in Japan. 

Doesn’t matter if you buy from Japan or not. I bought a td111 from a eBay seller in Japan who I bought a my green td170, the td111 was made in China 

I posted  some videos  over on Instragram  of the td170  go over and check  them out at @joewmontague

joemontague wrote:

I posted  some videos  over on Instragram  of the td170  go over and check  them out at @joewmontague

JimboS1ice wrote:

14 minutes ago, JimboS1ice said:

What is it about the 170 you like over the triple hammer? They seem pretty dead even


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They really  are pretty  even  I just like  the 170 more it has more speed settings  I just like the way it fits my hand don’t get me wrong the hitachi  is great too

joemontague wrote:

They really  are pretty  even  I just like  the 170 more it has more speed settings  I just like the way it fits my hand don’t get me wrong the hitachi  is great too

JimboS1ice wrote:

Just now, JimboS1ice said:

Makita seems a little more refined as well


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It is jimbo  I think  it’s better built only time will tell

I have a lot of milwaukee  and dewalt  just recently  started  buying  makita  and ever since I have fell in love with there tools it’s definitely  become my favorite  platform  although  I have less makita  than  dewalt  or milwaukee  they just fit so well in my hands so smooth  and so powerful  

joemontague wrote:

I have a lot of milwaukee  and dewalt  just recently  started  buying  makita  and ever since I have fell in love with there tools it’s definitely  become my favorite  platform  although  I have less makita  than  dewalt  or milwaukee  they just fit so well in my hands so smooth  and so powerful  

Cripes!  I received the TD170D yesterday.  Slapped on an old BL1830 battery, fully charged, put in an Apex ACR #2 PH bit, and drove about 35 – 3″ coarse gold “general purpose” screws into a piece of well seasoned old 4×4 I had in the garage that I’d been using for punching out bushings on.   I snapped off 5 of the heads.  4 separated 1″ below the head (right where the threads start) and 1 at about 1-1/2″ below the head (about 1/2″ below where the threads start).  Most broke while using the 4th / high setting, but a couple broke using the Assist mode.

I only recall a few times that happened with my nearly decade-old Mak BTD140 (pushing 2300 RPM & 3200 IPM, vs 3600 RPM / 3800 IPM for the TD170D in high gear) running at full bore and that has singularly built a half-dozen large pergola’s by itself and helped put together many dozens of concrete form setups.  I then drove a dozen of the same style screws into the 4×4 with the BTD140 and none of them broke off.  I could definitely tell a difference on how much kick & snap the new driver has vs the BTD140.  It’s not huge, but it is noticeable.

I will have to pay attention to screw / fastener selection and dial down on the settings accordingly!  Yes, I know the gold bugle-headed GP screws are predominately meant for light stuff like fresh pine & Douglas fir & hanging drywall (doh!  …but we’ve all done it….don’t say you haven’t  :-/  ). 

Besides dedicated Phillips & square / Robertson drive deck screws I’d already been switching to star-drive screws (GRK, SPAX, etc) for my impacts on some projects (and switching to better quality PB Swiss / Apex / Zephyr / Shockwave / Mak Gold bits several years ago).  But still, I almost never did that with the old driver.  This power upgrade may necessitate switching more or most of my screw fasteners over for the bigger stuff.

I noticed in some of the online literature the drill is pictured driving “hard wood” in setting 3.  Setting 4 is shown driving hole saws and lag bolts.

The.Handyman wrote:

On 4/20/2016 at 7:35 AM, The.Handyman said:

I was able to snag the newest and most powerful impact Makita has just come out with for a killer deal.

 

$178 shipped to me from Japan on Ebay – Seller Yosh-set

 

This is being called the ‘King of Impacts’ by Makita and is more powerful, if only slightly, than the TD148/XDT09.

 

I will keep you all posted if I get slapped with any import fees.

what color did you get?

Ugh! I can’t decide between Dewalt DCF887 and this.

I am a long time Makita user when it comes to impact drivers but I don’t like the new glow in the dark rubber and clear plastic nose. I abuse the crap out of my rattle gun and I noticed some of the boys have the rubber and clear plasric torn or cracked. I am not sure about those push buttons too.

In comparison, DCF887 has a solid body all around. It’s cheaper. But I heard about the bad chuck wobble, whether it makes a difference in impact drivers; I don’t know. I also don’t know about the dust and water resistance. My Makita’s DTD152 has been left in the rain and covered in silica dust many times but still runs without a hiccup.

Which impact driver to upgrade? Hmmmmm….

muddychip wrote:

Ugh! I can’t decide between Dewalt DCF887 and this.
 
I am a long time Makita user when it comes to impact drivers but I don’t like the new glow in the dark rubber and clear plastic nose. I abuse the crap out of my rattle gun and I noticed some of the boys have the rubber and clear plasric torn or cracked. I am not sure about those push buttons too.
 
In comparison, DCF887 has a solid body all around. It’s cheaper. But I heard about the bad chuck wobble, whether it makes a difference in impact drivers; I don’t know. I also don’t know about the dust and water resistance. My Makita’s DTD152 has been left in the rain and covered in silica dust many times but still runs without a hiccup.
 
Which impact driver to upgrade? Hmmmmm….

HiltiWpg wrote:

30 minutes ago, HiltiWpg said:

I got the DTD154, same specs as the 170 (torque, IPM, RPM etc..) except is has a metal cowl and no Cam out mode, otherwise, same size etc.


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It comes down to “better to have, and not need, than to need and not have” doesn’t it?

What do you think of the new buttons? Do they feel durable?

muddychip wrote:

26 minutes ago, muddychip said:

Ugh! I can’t decide between Dewalt DCF887 and this.

 

I am a long time Makita user when it comes to impact drivers but I don’t like the new glow in the dark rubber and clear plastic nose. I abuse the crap out of my rattle gun and I noticed some of the boys have the rubber and clear plasric torn or cracked. I am not sure about those push buttons too.

 

In comparison, DCF887 has a solid body all around. It’s cheaper. But I heard about the bad chuck wobble, whether it makes a difference in impact drivers; I don’t know. I also don’t know about the dust and water resistance. My Makita’s DTD152 has been left in the rain and covered in silica dust many times but still runs without a hiccup.

 

Which impact driver to upgrade? Hmmmmm….

I have only really heard of Milwaukee stuff going bad with dust particularly drywall dust. The 887 I have works fine around dust. I woud go with Makita. Makita is the impact king.

Here is a photo of Makita’s orbital sander. You can see the buttons wearing out. It’s only cosmetic but still… you know? This unit is few months old and shared by the boys (aka no love).

muddychip wrote:

Here is a photo of Makita’s orbital sander. You can see the buttons wearing out. It’s only cosmetic but still… you know? This unit is few months old and shared by the boys (aka no love).
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muddychip wrote:

 

It comes down to “better to have, and not need, than to need and not have” doesn’t it?

 

What do you think of the new buttons? Do they feel durable?

Cam out mode? Naw. I would rather the metal cowl. I have never had an issue with camming out as I don’t use Philips, lol.

As for button feel, it’s quite nice, better feel than my old M12 fuel’s button.

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Jronman wrote:

10 minutes ago, Jronman said:

I have only really heard of Milwaukee stuff going bad with dust particularly drywall dust. The 887 I have works fine around dust. I woud go with Makita. Makita is the impact king.

Ouch! Team Red takes the L. Anyway, I will stay loyal and look at between DTD154 or 170.

HiltiWpg wrote:

5 minutes ago, HiltiWpg said:

You can peel off the protective plastic film now!


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Now, why do you have to embarrass me like that? 🙂

muddychip wrote:

1 hour ago, muddychip said:

 

Ouch! Team Red takes the L. Anyway, I will stay loyal and look at between DTD154 or 170.

 

 

Now, why do you have to embarrass me like that? 🙂

Get the 154 or 170 you won’t be disappointed  I have the 887 and the 170 let’s just say the 887 is collecting  dust

I joined the Makita team just to get the TD170. It is quiter and smaller (head size) than my 12v Bosch impact and easily more powerful than my 200Nm Metabo impact wrench.

I’ve since sold both,  the TD170 does everything they did (lug nuts, small and large screws).

I’m amazed by this thing.