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Very cool Jimbo,,, nice work
Another great video Jimbo. I am trying to decide between this saw and the 7 1/4″.
i wanted the 7 1/4 but i wanted something a little more portable, so i went with this instead of the larger, now i don’t have to get the m12 saw… still might lol. I like the blade left and really its only 3/4″. The only nice thing about the 7 1/4″ is the better selection of blades.
I want the 7 1/4 fuel. Go big or go home lol. Great video Jimbo that saw is beast. Have you used the m12 ratchet yet?
I thought i did too, but its only a 3/4″ difference, when will you really notice it, i mean you still can’t cut 4x lumber in one pass
I have both fuel saws 6 1/2 and the 7 1/4 and you can not go wrong with either one.
Great video Jimbo. This is my next M18 tool for sure. How many cuts do you think you would get out of a 5.0 pack? Did you happen to check the battery level after the video?
Dano123 wrote:
3 hours ago, Dano123 said:Great video Jimbo. This is my next M18 tool for sure. How many cuts do you think you would get out of a 5.0 pack? Did you happen to check the battery level after the video?
It had a full pack when i started and was still full when i was done, but when i went to drill a couple holes for something it dropped 1 bar so really thats pretty efficient for all that cutting.
JimboS1ice wrote:
It had a full pack when i started and was still full when i was done, but when i went to drill a couple holes for something it dropped 1 bar so really thats pretty efficient for all that cutting.
Absolutely! That’s great for all of those cuts
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I’m going to have to stop watching these videos. As an employee at a very safety oriented company, your work would be stopped, and you could even be banned from the property if someone saw you make a cut like that on a 4×4.
I do appreciate the visual on how well the saw or maybe the blade itself can perform, but damn, work safer next time.
Um yea I cringed too when I saw jimbo go all the way around that 4X4 like that with blade facing his body. I’m sure he was trying to do cut as fast as possible for video editing and wasn’t thinking safety. I’m sure he normally would cut turn cut turn till all the way around. Video for demonstrations only lol not for the proper way to cut lumber. jimbo will make another video to show tips on proper safety lol
Great job Jimbo great video and keep up the good work
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tonylandin wrote:
Um yea I cringed too when I saw jimbo go all the way around that 4X4 like that with blade facing his body. I’m sure he was trying to do cut as fast as possible for video editing and wasn’t thinking safety. I’m sure he normally would cut turn cut turn till all the way around. Video for demonstrations only lol not for the proper way to cut lumber. jimbo will make another video to show tips on proper safety lolGreat job Jimbo great video and keep up the good work
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You ever watch new Yankee work shop for video demonstrating guards and stuff are removed, proper safety for that you guys would haven’t been able to see much, and yes when I actually cut I got a lot slow and use a higher tooth count blade but I was demonstrating the power of the saw.
Sorry Jimbo, but until I see you on a national television show every week for an hour or hour and a half I’m going to say the two circumstances are slightly different. LOL
If rather be on that naked lady channel.
Jimbo
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We don’t want the iconic flannel to get damaged.
JimboS1ice wrote:
4 hours ago, JimboS1ice said:You ever watch new Yankee work shop for video demonstrating guards and stuff are removed, proper safety for that you guys would haven’t been able to see much, and yes when I actually cut I got a lot slow and use a higher tooth count blade but I was demonstrating the power of the saw.
Pretty true. I wouldn’t even come close to considering that unsafe. All the safety features on the saw were still fully functional. People I work with, myself included, pin the guard back more often than not and I can’t remember the last time I used a table saw blade with a blade cover, anti kickback, or even a riving knife. Grinder guards are where I draw the line though, but mostly because a face full of sparks is annoying.
Nice demo of the fuel saw too, Jimbo.
I don’t think the guard had anything to do with what Mike wad talking about. Cutting a 4×4 around leaning over it like that with the blade towards your body is dangerous. However, the blade depth could not possibly have went through that board and he would have had to be extremely unlucky to be injured in that situation. The shoe would have had to slip past the board at the same time he was holding the guard back and the trigger in and hit his body. Extremely unlikely, however possible I guess?
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MikeInCtown wrote:
6 hours ago, MikeInCtown said:I’m going to have to stop watching these videos. As an employee at a very safety oriented company, your work would be stopped, and you could even be banned from the property if someone saw you make a cut like that on a 4×4.
I do appreciate the visual on how well the saw or maybe the blade itself can perform, but damn, work safer next time.
So you work for a safety oriented company that is probably like every other safety oriented company “Safety First ” or Safety is our number one priority Till it gets in the way.
regopit wrote:
12 minutes ago, regopit said:So you work for a safety oriented company that is probably like every other safety oriented company “Safety First ” or Safety is our number one priority Till it gets in the way.
I work in the steel industry. As I explained to someone privately, our company collectively has several dozen deaths per year from accidents, most of which are 100% preventable and completely stupid to be honest. Things like not tying off a harness when working on a 20′ scaffold and then falling to your death. That’s not to mention the hundreds or thousands of other lost time injuries that happen within my company world wide.. Every single one of these injuries and deaths place a strain on the employees and company in general. From families who lose loved ones to people who cannot walk again or lose something they have had their entire lives. Each accident costs the company money in the form of lost productivity, insurance, workers comp, medical bills, government fine and penalties and the list goes on. it really does make more financial sense to do things the safest way possible, even when it takes longer. The company empowers all of it’s employees to point out unsafe conditions, in some cases to put a stop to work, and even goes so far as to make part of our bonus program based on LTI injury rates.
A friend who I had here at work and who got to retire several years back was in charge of safety for the company. He has had to tell several families in person their husbands or wives had died and investigate these deaths. If you have seen these things happen, you know what I am talking about. So when I said that I liked the video of him showing what the saw can do, I really meant it, but I also especially meant the part about needing to be safer. After all, what kind of person ignores stuff that could cost someone else a trip to the hospital?
So if you think what I wrote was mean, well I am sorry,but it needed to be said. And old guy once pulled me aside and said work smarter, not harder. I try to remind myself of that every day.
Aw crap I can see myself cutting that 4×4 the same way, im no saint when it comes to safety, I know I need to work on it better.
I did however, get used to wearing harnass while roofing, it became our second skin, it was just something that became a norm.
One thing I’m guilty of all the time? Not wearing safety glasses, yep I’m terrible at that. Writing this should help to remind me, I’ll wear them tomorrow, I promise.
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Jimbo, I’ve been itching to get the fuel 7-1/4″ saw, from your perspective between the fuel and Ridgid, I think it would be a worthwhile investment, thanks for taking the time for the video.
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Great job Jimbo. I just saw (get it????? Yukka Yukka Yukka) the posting. Love the material your putting out, it’s fun watching the guys post these. Can’t wait to show off my new saw….soooooooooon!
MikeInCtown wrote:
50 minutes ago, MikeInCtown said:
I work in the steel industry. As I explained to someone privately, our company collectively has several dozen deaths per year from accidents, most of which are 100% preventable and completely stupid to be honest. Things like not tying off a harness when working on a 20′ scaffold and then falling to your death. That’s not to mention the hundreds or thousands of other lost time injuries that happen within my company world wide.. Every single one of these injuries and deaths place a strain on the employees and company in general. From families who lose loved ones to people who cannot walk again or lose something they have had their entire lives. Each accident costs the company money in the form of lost productivity, insurance, workers comp, medical bills, government fine and penalties and the list goes on. it really does make more financial sense to do things the safest way possible, even when it takes longer. The company empowers all of it’s employees to point out unsafe conditions, in some cases to put a stop to work, and even goes so far as to make part of our bonus program based on LTI injury rates.
A friend who I had here at work and who got to retire several years back was in charge of safety for the company. He has had to tell several families in person their husbands or wives had died and investigate these deaths. If you have seen these things happen, you know what I am talking about. So when I said that I liked the video of him showing what the saw can do, I really meant it, but I also especially meant the part about needing to be safer. After all, what kind of person ignores stuff that could cost someone else a trip to the hospital?
So if you think what I wrote was mean, well I am sorry,but it needed to be said. And old guy once pulled me aside and said work smarter, not harder. I try to remind myself of that every day.
lets get real here for second, I too worked in the metal industry for over 30 + years, I also know that it is not the metal industry that sets the bar for safety it is the mining industry. Yes I was certified to build anything mine related along with anything to do with paper mills or saw mills. The Company I worked for was global and ISO 9001. 1000’s of feet of conveyor systems, J sorters, debarkers, pineapple sets, yankee paper dryers 12 men mining skips you name it. Bottom line is……… safety is money…………….. I don’t care who you work for or how big or small the company. If there is no money in the job then safety is a second priority. Yes safety is confused with common sense many times and it does have a price on human life. There are standards that are in place and most of the time it is followed but there is always a manager watching his bottom line that easily over looks many things as well.
And how long ago did you work in the industry Comp? My company is heavy into mining and in fact just a few years back, half the deaths for the year were in our mining segment.
In any event, corporations have become very focused on safety because just like the minimum wage or environmental concerns, worker safety can either be a PR nightmare (look up Timken steel in Cleveland) or it can lead to awards from your customers, (we have an operation in South America I think that has something like 10 years without a LTI) Social media has changed the world and most companies go much further than what the government mandates because it is cheaper to the bottom line and actually can gain you business. I am sure you will get some dumbass owner or boss of some smaller company who says hey I’m only making $20k on the job and I’m not wasting $10k on safety, Trouble is, he isn’t listening to the actuaries, directors, and other investors who have hard evidence showing that $10k safety investment can have a positive return. That boss or owner doesn’t realize that companies like mine look at safety numbers when we choose to hire them on for a million dollar project until it is too late.
Earlier a comment was made about how when it costs money it gets ignored. I have a 45 page safety manual that every single contractor who comes on site has to go over and then sign off on before they are allowed to do any work. My freaking landscapers have to sit through the same 45 pages that the electricians do. Heck, my pest control guy who has never set foot on a ladder or touched a a wire or tool has to sign the same paperwork, even though he is on site a half hour per month. So yeah it may get ignored for some, but not for many out there. (feel free to take an emergency management training course at your local college to see just how into safety companies have to be. Active shooter training is just as important as tornado and fire drills these days)
MikeInCtown wrote:
4 minutes ago, MikeInCtown said:And how long ago did you work in the industry Comp?
that line right there makes me think you don’t think I know what I’m talking about…..um well it wasn’t back in 1884 when we used to mine gold with mercury?…
dude just do yourself a favor and don’t be so critical, just because you just finished reading the latest must work safe pamphlet your boss handed you last shift doesn’t make you a safety god……so what if jimbo cut a 4×4 in his video that didn’t meet AFFSTSS standards. I’m sure that is not his standard cutting procedure, you could plainly see he was just whipping through all his cuts to show how fast the saw could cut. If he had cut all those cuts to safety standards you would have said it didn’t show the speed of the saw and his video was a waste of your time cause you could get that info from manufacture’s website.
Sorry jimbo not going to hijack your thread any more………
That’s the advantage of the home shop. Just like everyone else here, it’s our shop. Safety is a personal goal. These videos are made by industrious members for industrious members. If a guy wants to cut a 4x in a particular fashion in his shop, so be it. Jim, great video. Even if it is a Milwaukee 😉
And if a guy wants to tell me how to do stuff in my shop….? Well….he’s entitled to his opinion. I hope he keeps it to himself but at the end of the day. It my shop. My rules. Take what you will from my shop and my video.
We open ourselves to criticism every time we shoot a video or write a post. I hope, on our forum anyways, we keep that criticism professional and friendly. Any rude commentary or disruptive behavior will be dealt with immediately so let’s everybody keep focused and friendly. This is a great site. I’ve been here for several years and want to see it stay that way.
Like elbows….Everybody has an opinion and when it comes to criticism it is kind of interesting to see how people come across. This forum, Tools In Action, is NOT the Journal of Light Construction. This is a tool forum. Plain and simple. We are full of amateurs and hobbyists and professionals. Everybody comes from a different background, myself included. Everybody has different levels of experience and training. Some in the pro field, some in their shop, some as enthusiastic home owners or renters. I for one like reading all of your articles and if I can’t take something out of it? Great. If not? Who cares? Somebody else might take something from it. Monday Night Quarterbacking shows up to ALL of the members. And the guys that contribute to the forum? Keep on keeping on guys. God bless you. I love the information. The guys that don’t really contribute but like to criticize? Well….like leaves in the Fall, they go away.
Keep up the good work all of you guys that take the time to make this forum unique and informative. And if you screw something up? IT IS YOUR DARN SHOP!!!!! Be careful but have fun. Remember what Tools In Action is about. It’s about Tools……in action. No misnomer there.
Well said Chris!
Jimbo
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Damn Jimbo,you lose some weight or something? You’re looking hella fine in this video. As far as safety goes This thread is the most entertaining thing I’ve read in a while. I can always use a good laugh. Like the harness on a 20′ scaffold. I remember working on 2x10s on 20′ scaffolds with my Dad back in elementary school. No harnesses were involved. My dad wouldn’t let me up on the ladder jacks up that high though. Man all sorts of stuff. I come from a long line of guys who are missing finger tips. From 8 years old I ran skill saws that always (and I mean always) had the guard pinned back. A large portion of the cuts were blade toward my femoral artery. You know what it did? It made me hyperaware of where my blade is at all times. I’ve worked with a lot of guys who flip out if the guard gets pinned back, and they are the ones who end up cutting their cords on accident. I’ve never ran a grinder with a guard. I’ve sat on buckets of loaders in High winds 18′ feet in the air trying to get a roof to hold together. I’ve used 45′ man lifts without harnesses. All the nail guns I used didn’t have the safety mechanism on the nose so you pulled the trigger and it shot no matter what. You know what that accomplished? I pay a lot of attention to my muzzle and trigger control even though the guns I use now have safety features because of all the times my ass got chewed for sweeping my dad with the muzzle as a kid. I flinch and move whenever one gets pointed toward me. I can guarantee you that I work safer than most people because a large portion of the time safety equipment is like gloves on a bench grinder, giving you a false sense of security. I’m not saying that safety devices and protocols should be done away with, but it seems to me that a majority of the time people are getting taught that safety mechanisms and protocols are a replacement for situational awareness and it is making the job site less and less safe. These should supplement each other, not be an either/or scenario. If you are taught that you have a safety net all the time you won’t concentrate on not falling, but what happens when that net fails? If you believe there is no net you will be very deliberate about not falling and then be glad that the net is there to catch you. If you think my experience is unsafe, you oughta hear the stories my dad and boss tell about their childhoods. My boss was killed as a kid by a live 480v line, and when he fell 15+ feet off the pipe he was straddling the impact with the ground restarted his heart. Just my two cents. Great video. I can’t wait for the DeWalt brushless to finally come out so we can do a head to head.
Don’t hold your breath with dewalt lol
And i wish i lost weight!
After all of this I just have 2 questions… how do you mine gold with mercury and where can I get some??
Dano123 wrote:
6 hours ago, Dano123 said:After all of this I just have 2 questions… how do you mine gold with mercury and where can I get some??
That sounds like a good write up… cough cough
Dano123 wrote:
6 hours ago, Dano123 said:After all of this I just have 2 questions… how do you mine gold with mercury and where can I get some??
I thought they used Mercury to cure syphilis!!!!!
You guys ever watch science videos on youtube of mercury, thats some pretty wild stuff!
ChrisK wrote:
3 hours ago, ChrisK said:I thought they used Mercury to cure syphilis!!!!!
Wow, you never cease to amaze me Chris. Hahaha. Mercury, And I thought it was the closes planet to the sun. I thought penicillin cured syphilis?
JimboS1ice wrote:
4 hours ago, JimboS1ice said:You guys ever watch science videos on youtube of mercury, thats some pretty wild stuff!
Agreed. If you like some science(not boring and easy to understand) with mercury and firearms you should already be following TAOFLEDERMAUS, but if you’re not here’s a link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNEZ7cqaZzYLeyWfTkelkEA
He’s the guy that is famous for finding out that gummy bears are bulletproof.
Glasseyi wrote:
Wow, you never cease to amaze me Chris. Hahaha. Mercury, And I thought it was the closes planet to the sun. I thought penicillin cured syphilis?
Mercury didn’t cure syphilis but doctors didn’t let a little thing like that stop them from getting a big syringe, filling it with mercury, and ruining some poor shlub’s day by filling his tallywhacker full of liquid metal
It offends me that you used a drill and not an impact driver to DRIVE in those pocket screws ;).
khariV wrote:
On 4/8/2016 at 11:51 PM, khariV said:Mercury didn’t cure syphilis but doctors didn’t let a little thing like that stop them from getting a big syringe, filling it with mercury, and ruining some poor shlub’s day by filling his tallywhacker full of liquid metal
The crap they used to treat illness back then was crazy. Mercury, cocaine, bloodletting, tooth extraction(healthy teeth to cute non-oral health problems), surgically implanting goat testicles…yes, that was a thing.
rocket1420 wrote:
It offends me that you used a drill and not an impact driver to DRIVE in those pocket screws ;).
I think that day I was filming the 791 so it was all ready to go
Think Safety!! I love it! But we on YouTube say safety third. Just saying.
Great safety video Jimbo.
Great video thanks for sharing
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Jimbo awesome video bro and Thanks for taking the time to this for the crew! Plus I love the ending bro very cool!
Ok you can redeem yourself fully by posting a picture of your fire extinguisher to make up the lack in your video!!
You need to do all of your videos from now on wearing that outfit…
KnarlyCarl wrote:
9 hours ago, KnarlyCarl said:Ok you can redeem yourself fully by posting a picture of your fire extinguisher to make up the lack in your video!!
He also needed it for the HF drill. Lol!!!
Actually, you need a full fire suppression system in your garage to use power tools. Just one pin and your entire garage is extinguished. Also, you need a spotter in case you have to lift anything over 15 lbs.
he also needs to have a team of safety specialists on location while shooting video’s for up to the minute advice on safety regulations in case there are updates while filming.
opp umm jimbo, sorry that is no longer exceptable, you need the 453-546 the 455-533 are now outdated…