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Who made the best cordless mitersaw.. Makita, Milwaukee or Dewalt.. What do you think? And why..
id have to say the makita 36v (2×18) looks likely to be top of the tree for now, but a tool fight between them all is needed by one of the video channels.
Let’s keep it fear with one 18 v battery
Right now, I’d say Dewalt. In a year… Who knows
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If your going to limited to one just 1-18v battery, then my vote goes to the 8 1/2″ Metabo.
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Short answer:
The one of which you have batteries
Longer answer:
Correct me if there’s something wrong in here. Didnt add the milwaukee because it doesnt exist in belgium.
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No point limiting it to ‘ One battery ‘ only. These saws are almost never gonna be bought by ‘new’ uers but only by those already invested in the platforms.
Right now the Dewalt is dominating but that could change real quick, metabos good but they don’t have the name recognition, Makita looks awesome but the downfall is two packs are needed, which isn’t really a downfall.
Jimbo
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Glasseyi wrote:
If your going to limited to one just 1-18v battery, then my vote goes to the 8 1/2″ Metabo.
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That Metabo looks really nice.
Dewalt
Dewalt US model looks the business. Also like the look of the Makita.
I have the Dewalt and I really like it. I looked at the Makita but I don’t have any Makita batteries and why would I want to lug around the extra weight. I get plenty of run time out of the one XR 4.0 battery.
regopit wrote:
I have the Dewalt and I really like it. I looked at the Makita but I don’t have any Makita batteries and why would I want to lug around the extra weight. I get plenty of run time out of the one XR 4.0 battery.
Regopit, your liking the 4.0 with it? On a project is it lasting most of the day?
chrisk wrote:
Regopit, your liking the 4.0 with it? On a project is it lasting most of the day?
For the most part I can go all day on one battery. It’s not like you are making rip cuts and running for extended amounts of time I use it mostly for trim work but I have used it for other things. You see guys saying they can get x amount of cuts but that also depends on how long you hold the trigger before and after the cut.
I imagine there are variables, the trigger time, the wood, the temperature, the humidity, the elevation not sure it would be hours difference but something….
I would love to give it a shot but I in no way need or could really use this at this time, but I have to admit a strong affinity for Dewalt miters and this one looks A+. Love the table and positive miter locks on it,
im invested in the Dewalt platform and will most likely go with it once I can afford to, but the extra bit of cut capacity that the metabo offers will force me to take a hard look at it. Both will cut wider than my broken handled 10″ non sliding mitersaw that i have now.
I’m all about the Dewalt, I was I think the first member here to get it. Works great, but a battle is needed. The main advantage of the Makita is RPM, pushing nearly 2K more RPM than the Dewalt…but I have a feeling that to get to that speed, the motor actually provides less torque than the Dewalt, and the least bit of resistance brings the RPM down to Dewalt’s level. I could be wrong, and that’s why we need the battle.
Hugh jass ! I have the Makita in my store. It upkeeps its speed without any problem.
If you start pushing it in big hardwood pieces then it starts bogging down for half a second before the ‘ automatic speed change’ tech kick in and the motor automatically shifs into a higher gear to upkeep the torque !
It really is stronger/faster then corded compact mitre saws.
kornomaniac wrote:
Hugh jass ! I have the Makita in my store. It upkeeps its speed without any problem.
If you start pushing it in big hardwood pieces then it starts bogging down for half a second before the ‘ automatic speed change’ tech kick in and the motor automatically shifs into a higher gear to upkeep the torque !
It really is stronger/faster then corded compact mitre saws.
Seems the engineers saw my complaint coming. Impressive.
Does the makita come with batteries or is it a bare tool
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Depends on your country i guess =)
I can get it either bare or with batteries 🙂
I have the Dewalt 20v saw and love the portability of it.
Hugh Jass wrote:
I’m all about the Dewalt, I was I think the first member here to get it. Works great, but a battle is needed. The main advantage of the Makita is RPM, pushing nearly 2K more RPM than the Dewalt…but I have a feeling that to get to that speed, the motor actually provides less torque than the Dewalt, and the least bit of resistance brings the RPM down to Dewalt’s level. I could be wrong, and that’s why we need the battle.
kornomaniac wrote:
Hugh jass ! I have the Makita in my store. It upkeeps its speed without any problem.
If you start pushing it in big hardwood pieces then it starts bogging down for half a second before the ‘ automatic speed change’ tech kick in and the motor automatically shifs into a higher gear to upkeep the torque !
It really is stronger/faster then corded compact mitre saws.
Could be an advantage of the 36v platform. More power and torque than a regular 18v can muster.
It should be yes. 36v and brushless helps of course 🙂
I don’t own one, but my votes for dewalt of course. The numbers on the other saws r impressive though. I’m waiting for a 12″ sliding cordless miter saw. And I’m thinking run time and number of cuts could be easily improved with a diablo blade.
Probably a little ways off from a 12, maybe well se a 10 or a 10inch table saw before we see a cordless 12.
Although i really like Makita dual 18v brushless slider i do think they could have made it a 10incher with the power and runtime that saw had 🙂
kornomaniac wrote:
Although i really like Makita dual 18v brushless slider i do think they could have made it a 10incher with the power and runtime that saw had 🙂
Maybe they couldn’t get the run time they wanted with the 10″ in order to compete with the dewalt…
Wel im no engineer so i wouldnt know what upping the size to 10 inch would do but as toolboxbuzz/aconcord Carpenter have proven the runtime on a charge is double that of the dewalt.
I just think Makita Engineers have been lazy. They used 80% of the parts from their previous model 18v mitre. They just designed a neW motor, to get the extreme runtime and power, that they pasted on the frame of the previous model.
Very quick way to put a cordless mitre on the market which, undoubtetly, is the strongest and fastest their is. But it could have been much more !!
Undoubted korno, theres more than what we know, maybe materials, maybe this is their way of getting their foot in the door until they get something else out or maybe that just felt like they needed to put something out.
I don’t know if the Makita has a leaser but the DeWalt has the light that cast a blade shadow that works great. I used my Dewalt to put down 800sq Ft of hardwood flooring this week with no problems.
No laser. Xps system works great y 🙂
And jimbo you’re correct. This one could be a quick tool to bring out ( using 80% of parts from previous model) while they design a 10 incher from scratch to really use the 36v/brushless combo to its full effect.
Lets hope 🙂 hahaha
Makita did the strangest thing . They made a 18V X2 miter saw and its only a 7.5″ blade but there 18V saw is 8.5″. I wish they would have taken the 18V X2 and brought out a 10″ saw.Maybe they will who knows but for $599 (bare tool) I would like at least a 10″ saw.
chadlanthier wrote:
I don’t own one, but my votes for dewalt of course. The numbers on the other saws r impressive though. I’m waiting for a 12″ sliding cordless miter saw. And I’m thinking run time and number of cuts could be easily improved with a diablo blade.
Yeah I used the Dewalt blade that came with the saw and wasn’t all that impressed so I bought a Diablo and its so much smoother with a cleaner cut that I could definitely see you getting more cuts with the Diablo.
Glasseyi wrote:
If your going to limited to one just 1-18v battery, then my vote goes to the 8 1/2″ Metabo.
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The only problem I would have with that one is the unusual blade size. 8 1/2″ blades are not commonly available especially compared to 7 1/4″, 10″ or 12″.
chadlanthier wrote:
I don’t own one, but my votes for dewalt of course. The numbers on the other saws r impressive though. I’m waiting for a 12″ sliding cordless miter saw. And I’m thinking run time and number of cuts could be easily improved with a diablo blade.
I would love to see Ryobi and/or Dewalt do that. I mention those two because something like that would likely require 40v batteries and those two are the only miter saw manufacturers I know of that also make 40v batteries.
Don’t know if we will see a 12 in cordless miter anytime soon, maybe a 10ch but I can’t see dewalt putting the 40v pack in a saw, they e kept that line for their lawn care tools. Now if we see a 40v SDS or something then maybe a miter saw in that platform won’t be far along.
The problem is the current required for the motor to power that large of a blade and not to lose rpms while making a cut. Now there are some rumors of some new dewalt batteries coming out, so it will be interesting to see this year.
Jimbo
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I have an old Bosch 24v NiCad 10″ miter saw, currently sitting on the shelf for lack of a good battery to power it. I believe the model number was 3924. When it was new, it was a great light duty portable saw that did not lack for power in cutting 2x material. This particular item is the only Bosch cordless power tool that I purchased over the years that did not die of motor failure and saw quite a bit of use in its time, even as the batteries slowly died. I keep it because I hope to adapt an alternative power source for it someday when I find the time. The fact that a 10″ cordless has been produced in the past does make me wonder why one is not currently available though.
Jimbos1ice wrote:
Don’t know if we will see a 12 in cordless miter anytime soon, maybe a 10ch but I can’t see dewalt putting the 40v pack in a saw, they e kept that line for their lawn care tools. Now if we see a 40v SDS or something then maybe a miter saw in that platform won’t be far along.
The problem is the current required for the motor to power that large of a blade and not to lose rpms while making a cut. Now there are some rumors of some new dewalt batteries coming out, so it will be interesting to see this year.
Jimbo
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Milwaukee has had a 8.5″ miter in Europe for a while now and metabo just introduced one as well. Both are brushed so I could see a m18 fuel 10″ be on the way. In kinda surprised Makita didn’t go 10″, they have the bones to push it with 36v and brushless…
JMG wrote:
I have an old Bosch 24v NiCad 10″ miter saw, currently sitting on the shelf for lack of a good battery to power it. I believe the model number was 3924. When it was new, it was a great light duty portable saw that did not lack for power in cutting 2x material. This particular item is the only Bosch cordless power tool that I purchased over the years that did not die of motor failure and saw quite a bit of use in its time, even as the batteries slowly died. I keep it because I hope to adapt an alternative power source for it someday when I find the time. The fact that a 10″ cordless has been produced in the past does make me wonder why one is not currently available though.
You should be able to find a 24V lithium ion pack for RC people or worst case stick two 12V back to back.
If I could get my hands on one of those saws I would try to put together a converter to run it off 2x18V batteries but it looks like they’ve been out of production a while.
Don’t own one, but the 36v Makita sounds like a great option for those in that battery platform. I’m on the dewalt platform, so I’d go with that, though I’d like to see it develop to a larger blade or double bevel…or both!
The DeWalt one is Pretty sweet
DeWalt
Hmmmmm i wonder if it would be possible to stick the 36v brushless Makita model on their corded ls1018 with some tinkering to get a 10inch dual bevel model. Now that would be sweet !
Out of these two my favourite is the Metabo, but the Makita is more powerful –
I have not tried the Dealt yet, but from all accounts sounds pretty good.
Good luck with you choice!
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What I would love would me a 12″ one with a slide that is hybrid (40v and mains power). I would love if Ryobi (since I already own Ryobi 40v batteries for my OPE) would make one, I would buy one as soon as I have space for it.
james10million wrote:
On 2/6/2016 at 5:36 AM, james10million said:Out of these two my favourite is the Metabo, but the Makita is more powerful –
I have not tried the Dealt yet, but from all accounts sounds pretty good.
Good luck with you choice!
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The problem I would have with Metabo is the 8 1/2″ blade. That size is obscure and not widely available and would limit your selection of blades.
The Milwaukee rep I talked to said they are coming out with a cordless miter saw soon, either a 10 or 12 inch blade, he wasn’t 100% sure it was a 12.
red tool addict wrote:
The Milwaukee rep I talked to said they are coming out with a cordless miter saw soon, either a 10 or 12 inch blade, he wasn’t 100% sure it was a 12.
Cordless 12″ would be nice to see.
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Wow I wouldn’t doubt them not coming out with a 12inch, milwaukee always takes everything up a notch from everyone else
red tool addict wrote:
On 2/29/2016 at 3:45 PM, red tool addict said:The Milwaukee rep I talked to said they are coming out with a cordless miter saw soon, either a 10 or 12 inch blade, he wasn’t 100% sure it was a 12.
Would battery life in an issue though (assuming they are using an 18v battery)?