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Quick little video on the new Dewalt impact and ridgid impulse driver. Put both of them to note the difference in motor types and sound. The Dewalt is your typical hammer anvil style where the ridgid is an oil impulse motor, less impacts but more power per impact. The ridgid has lower rpms as well but supposed to drill faster, the Dewalt seems to go faster.
We were not racing the two just messing around, the wife likes playing with tools sometimes so she’s at the helm of the ridgid for the first video and I am with the Dewalt. Sorry I stripped the last screw with the Dewalt, 1 handed isn’t always the best lol.
Sorry no narration today watching the hawks game!
Biggest complaint on the ridgid is the large amount of feedback. Especially lower rpm the feedback of the impacts (pulses) is rather uncomfortable as I show you guys below.
I really like the ridgid because it is very quiet but the feedback is insane. Enjoy!
Jimbo
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They each have their merits. You see why they call it stealth. So quit. If I was working at night and did not want to wake the family then it’s great. And the dcf887. Is built for speed and power. And it has that in spades. Good video Jimbo.
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Glasseyi wrote:
They each have their merits. You see why they call it stealth. So quit. If I was working at night and did not want to wake the family then it’s great. And the dcf887. Is built for speed and power. And it has that in spades. Good video Jimbo.
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Yea the RIDGID is nice but it’s pretty heavy and pair it with the feedback isn’t very comfortable.
Jimbo
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Thanks for the videos Jimbo, what bits are u using with them?
Can’t see the videos from my end Jimbo, anyone else having an issue?
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Disregard that, slow upload on my end!
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Agree big time. I think when people use it (the stealth) they might change their mind about it. Of course no one will ever say it was a bad choice, unless they run TIA lol.Jimbos1ice wrote:
Yea the RIDGID is nice but it’s pretty heavy and pair it with the feedback isn’t very comfortable.
Jimbo
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I’m going to try some lags to see the reaction with it, great power though.
Mike I have my not so favorite dewalt flex torq.
Jimbo
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Well I have to say it’s nice innovation, but if I wanted to be quiet with running screws for something, I would use a regular drill. It’s what I always used to use before impacts came along mainstream. Now I love impacts because of reduced feedback, more control, lighter tool, easy operation. I just don’t think it’s worth it looking it over real carefully. Certainly appreciate the video, though, helps me come to my own conclusion and my own opinion. But you know what they say, opinions aren’t worth anything, that’s why we give them out for free.Glasseyi wrote:
They each have their merits. You see why they call it stealth. So quit. If I was working at night and did not want to wake the family then it’s great. And the dcf887. Is built for speed and power. And it has that in spades. Good video Jimbo.
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KnarlyCarl wrote:
Well I have to say it’s nice innovation, but if I wanted to be quiet with running screws for something, I would use a regular drill. It’s what I always used to use before impacts came along mainstream. Now I love impacts because of reduced feedback, more control, lighter tool, easy operation. I just don’t think it’s worth it looking it over real carefully. Certainly appreciate the video, though, helps me come to my own conclusion and my own opinion. But you know what they say, opinions aren’t worth anything, that’s why we give them out for free.
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Yea it was a disappointment to me to have that type of reaction under the lower rpms, big down fall for sure.
Jimbo
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that sucks man I was hoping those were gonna be really durable impact bits from Dewalt… I’ve been. Using and really likeing the Makita gold bits a lot.Jimbos1ice wrote:
I’m going to try some lags to see the reaction with it, great power though.
Mike I have my not so favorite dewalt flex torq.
Jimbo
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Bigmikez wrote:
that sucks man I was hoping those were gonna be really durable impact bits from Dewalt… I’ve been. Using and really likeing the Makita gold bits a lot.
They are pretty durable but they don’t have the best fit, remind me of a better version of shockwaves, dewalt max fits are the bits i reach for the most.
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Those are both amazing impacts I wish I had both of them!!
Im surprised by the amount of feedback. Makita’s impulse driver doesnt look to have any significant feedback and even the metabo drill in impulse mode doesnt feedback that much.
Great videos Jimbo and Mrs. Jimbo. That is insane amount of feedback at low rpms. Almost no control at low rpms. I guess you’ll have to use it at full blast all the time.
jeffmcmillan wrote:
Im surprised by the amount of feedback. Makita’s impulse driver doesnt look to have any significant feedback and even the metabo drill in impulse mode doesnt feedback that much.
The Makita doesn’t have that feedback. But it’s alot more expensive I think?
Alot smaller and lighter tho
kornomaniac wrote:
The Makita doesn’t have that feedback. But it’s alot more expensive I think?
Alot smaller and lighter tho
Yeah the makita is $180 for a bare tool, almost the price of the ridgid with two slim batteries.
Have you used both? I’m curious about whether one is significantly quieter than the other.
I use my impact for drilling with spade bits a decent bit and it seems like these would do that more effectively than a standard impact driver since each impact has more energy and less torque.
jeffmcmillan wrote:
Yeah the makita is $180 for a bare tool, almost the price of the ridgid with two slim batteries.
Have you used both? I’m curious about whether one is significantly quieter than the other.
I use my impact for drilling with spade bits a decent bit and it seems like these would do that more effectively than a standard impact driver since each impact has more energy and less torque.
Next time I have a chance I’ll drill some spades with it and post a video, can’t attest for the Makita though.
Jimbo
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Holy cow that ridged had a ton of feedback! It sure isn’t meant for precision. From the videos I have seen of it online it is a good bit faster than the x5 impact driver on 3 inch screws.
are you sure there is not something wrong with that thing, looks like you need 3 men and a hairy assed boy to hang on to that thing……
comp56 wrote:
are you sure there is not something wrong with that thing, looks like you need 3 men and a hairy assed boy to hang on to that thing……
I agree with Comp…I would exchange it and see if the new one does the same thing.
Took the first one back because I thought something was wrong but after doing a little research they all have this bad reaction… Might have to contact ridgid on this one.
Jimbo
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wow that is insane, someone dropped the ball or hammer or anvil…..the impact on this move will leave somebody screwed!
Yea I want to see how it reacts under higher rpm and torque situations
Jimbo
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Thanks for the videos Jimbo….I was really close to pulling the trigger on that Ridgid. That kind of feedback from an impact driver just won’t cut it for me. I have the GEN5X 18V brushed Ridgid impact driver and it’s a great tool. Hopefully the next impulse driver version from them will be better.
I’ll save my money until then!
I do however like the way the light illuminates the area
The new chuck lights are a big improvement
kornomaniac wrote:
The Makita doesn’t have that feedback. But it’s alot more expensive I think?
Alot smaller and lighter tho
Well I think the Makita from what I understand is much less powerful and torquey but these things are pretty much specialty items right now for when you want quiet drivers more than all out performance. That being said these are new product types competing aginst impact drivers that have had a decade plus of development, give them some time. If the market is there for these things they should get better and better.
JerryNY wrote:
Well I think the Makita from what I understand is much less powerful and torquey but these things are pretty much specialty items right now for when you want quiet drivers more than all out performance. That being said these are new product types competing aginst impact drivers that have had a decade plus of development, give them some time. If the market is there for these things they should get better and better.
Actually I’ve seen some comparisons showing the makita impulse driver putting in deck screws and lags faster than their (silent) flagship xdt09 which in turn seems to beat the fuel gen2. Driving in wood is more about the impact energy than torque.
I’ve also seen some pictures of older makita impulse drivers that just had limited availability. They seem to have the same feedback issue of the ridgid driver, so I’m guessing the new release was because they found a way around that.
The ridgid is quite. I used one the other day but the he is right the feedback is awful I prefer the brushless over the stealth force
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jeffmcmillan wrote:
Yeah the makita is $180 for a bare tool, almost the price of the ridgid with two slim batteries.
Have you used both? I’m curious about whether one is significantly quieter than the other
No i havent sorry 🙂 ridgid doesnt exist in belgium 🙂 i can make you a movie on the Makita on low speed if you want to see it 🙂
JerryNY wrote:
Well I think the Makita from what I understand is much less powerful and torquey but these things are pretty much specialty items right now for when you want quiet drivers more than all out performance. That being said these are new product types competing aginst impact drivers that have had a decade plus of development, give them some time. If the market is there for these things they should get better and better.
The Makita actually is quite strong 🙂 in the specifications it only had 40 newtons of torque. But in real life it does pretty much everything a normal impact does 🙂 i can not explain why this measily 40 newtons in the specs produce the power of the oil impulse driver. Pretty strange 🙂
I’ve noticed that the impulse drivers seem to have less IPMs but each impact seems to have more power than your traditional impact.
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I tried the Makita impulsen driver again today. There is also quite some feedback at low rpm’s. Not as bad as the ridgid is seems from the video but more then the normal impact drivers.
Power is high tho. It really rips 🙂
kornomaniac wrote:
I tried the Makita impulsen driver again today. There is also quite some feedback at low rpm’s. Not as bad as the ridgid is seems from the video but more then the normal impact drivers.
Power is high tho. It really rips 🙂
Yea full speed it’s not bad until you get down into the lower speeds.
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poor guy with the stealth force finished faster just so he could be done with the pain, you can see the feedback even in Ridgid videos!
That did look painful. I bet his hand was numb before he finished.
Anybody recognize the other brand?
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KnarlyCarl wrote:
Anybody recognize the other brand?
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Thought about it but hard to tell, I’m sure it’s an older lower end model on a lower speed otherwise they shouldn’t have painted it all silver. If your going to brag your tools better then don’t hide what your comparing it to, I like ridgid but I hate advertisements like that.
Jimbo
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Hey I’ll race that guy with my Dewalt 887 on full blast
Jimbo
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I want to say it is a kobalt impact driver.KnarlyCarl wrote:
Anybody recognize the other brand?
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NicholasShetley wrote:
I want to say it is a kobalt impact driver.
+1
Wow they really challenged it to kobalt PPPFFFFF!!! Lol I’m not knocking ridgid brand but they could’ve at least fought it with a PC or hitachi at least
Exactly my thought, get something closer to its capabilities jeez what a joke.Bigmikez wrote:
Wow they really challenged it to kobalt PPPFFFFF!!! Lol I’m not knocking ridgid brand but they could’ve at least fought it with a PC or hitachi at least
I’ll say it again, if I need to drive in screws quietly, I’ll use a drill, but sometimes even then they squeal like a mad pig
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Was considering the stealth too. Thanks for the video.
Found this comparison of the Makita vs Ridgid oil impact drivers
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Pretty cold read Carl, I know that ridgid has more than the Makita on torque, that’s next to nothing in torque, I would say the ridgid has to be some where in the 1200-1400 inch pound range
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” it’s not nearly as tough on your hands and arms as a hard hitting impact driver “
I can’t take them seriously after that. Plus the Makita version doesn’t seem to have such a big problem with lags https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/12211363_715856611848306_1268179148_n.mp4
That’s a really smooth looking impact there Jeff, the RIDGID would tear your arm off with them lol
Jimbo
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PROTOOLNUT wrote:
Good lord thats a lot of vibration, how are you supposed to keep the driver on the bit when its doing that? I am not a fan of Rigid tools based on all the vids I have seen of yours on them man. Good demonstrational video, and your pieces of wood are better then my ceder scrap lol.
That’s why it sits at home well papa Dewalt goes to work and uncle Milwaukee schools his ass
Jimbo
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