Extraction Pliers

Saw these pliers on eBay, pretty cool they have grooves that help grip for extraction. I have never heard of this brand or have seen pliers with that groove pattern.

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/252134688133

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I have a pair, they are FANTASTIC. Vampliers is the US distributer, they do limited advertising and charge more than the OEM which doesn’t do any advertising. The OEM is Engineer and they sell for about $10 less. Here’s a link to the ones I have: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002L6HJAA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00

They have two different sizes of this tool, then they have a micro version as well as a slip-joint version. Very good quality, strong jaws, good cutters on them. Handle is dense and comfy. I love them, they got me out of a jam on site Friday. Screw was really tight, screw head was stripped. Grabbed these guys and it was out in a few seconds and because the way they’re cut, they don’t slip like trying to do it with regular pliers.

BMack37 wrote:

I have a pair, they are FANTASTIC. Vampliers is the US distributer, they do limited advertising and charge more than the OEM which doesn’t do any advertising. The OEM is Engineer and they sell for about $10 less. Here’s a link to the ones I have: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002L6HJAA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00

They have two different sizes of this tool, then they have a micro version as well as a slip-joint version. Very good quality, strong jaws, good cutters on them. Handle is dense and comfy. I love them, they got me out of a jam on site Friday. Screw was really tight, screw head was stripped. Grabbed these guys and it was out in a few seconds and because the way they’re cut, they don’t slip like trying to do it with regular pliers.

Good to hear, I might just have to do these to the tool box, thanks for the link!

Jimbo

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I think Stuey/Toolguyd did a review on those a while back.

Yup.

http://toolguyd.com/?s=vampliers

Vampliers are awesome,I have several pairs of these.

Thanks for the info guys!

Two things of note that I forgot to mention. The size I linked to, the jaws are designed not to touch but really it would have to be a TINY screw to not work. Another thing is that the serrations in the jaws are nice and sharp, you’re going to really dig into the screw head to remove a screw. I think the slip-joint would be the most useful of all of them but I also wouldn’t hesitate to buy multiple sizes of these guys to use as regular pliers as well as worn bit extraction.

Here are the slip joints: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W9IV82?colid=FG53APQ94OYX&coliid=I2ELIE28340Y9I&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl

Thanks dude, I’ll probably grab a one of each, glad to stumble across these.

Jimbo

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No problem! I’ve been happy telling as many people as possible about them. I’ve always wished someone made a pair of pliers like this and to my surprise, earlier this year they popped up on my Amazon recommendations, did some research and bought them. Couldn’t be happier…apparently, they aren’t uncommon in Japan. There are multiple makers of this kind of plier in Japan, Engineer makes the most economic/good quality of the bunch. The others have to be shipped from Japan…though Chinese knockoffs have been found in Canada at Princess Auto(their Harbor Freight equivalent).

Hmmm…..These pliers have caught my attention

I used mine just the other day in the shop when someone stripped out an 6-32 sized screw,it worked awesome. I was watching them struggle to get it out and I was like, “come here,try these”. worked like a champ.

I have the slip-joint version and they work pretty well. I ordered the largest ones from Engineer over a month ago and I am still waiting for them to be delivered. I think it would be really cool if they came out with a vice grip type version of the pliers, seems like that would really be use full for tough screws.

Ordered a pair of the PZ-59, unfortunately I won’t have them until december, I guess it’ll be a Christmas present for myself!

Jim, 

The pliers will worth the wait, trust me. I’m guessing the one you bought is made by Engineer ? Or at least a rebranded version ?

hemdale wrote:

Jim,

The pliers will worth the wait, trust me. I’m guessing the one you bought is made by Engineer ? Or at least a rebranded version ?

Yes it was engineer as Bmack referred me to, everyone has built these pliers up can’t wait to get my hands on them.

Jimbo

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While you wait, go grab a bag of potatoes and get a couple of screws ready

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pmiller383 wrote:

I have the slip-joint version and they work pretty well. I ordered the largest ones from Engineer over a month ago and I am still waiting for them to be delivered. I think it would be really cool if they came out with a vice grip type version of the pliers, seems like that would really be use full for tough screws.

Just ordered a pair of the slip joints I’ll have them in a few days [emoji57]

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Got them straight from Japan, these bad boys are pretty sweet, love the slip joint, can’t wait to start using these guys.

Jimbo

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Ah you got the large model

hemdale wrote:

Ah you got the large model

I did, I might pick up the minis too, why not have a whole set!

Jimbo

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When I got them I just went to town on some screws that I didn’t care if they got marred up, when I realized it was about as easy as using a screwdriver…I knew I was going to love these pliers. I think my test subject was my weight bench, which has some rust on the hardware.

I like these, gotta grab a pair

MikeyB wrote:

I like these, gotta grab a pair

Yea go on Amazon, they are very nice quality pliers.

Jimbo

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Thanks Jimbo

I’ll have to get one of those soon.

There are very few tools I recommend with such gusto, everyone needs at least one pair of these. These are very nicely made and probably underpriced at $20-25 range, considering the cost of Knipex and the like. These are part tool and part advil because they will save you a lot of headaches.

BMack37 wrote:

There are very few tools I recommend with such gusto, everyone needs at least one pair of these. These are very nicely made and probably underpriced at $20-25 range, considering the cost of Knipex and the like. These are part tool and part advil because they will save you a lot of headaches.

Jimbo

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How does the joint hold up?  A lot of pliers flex in the joint and end up loose and wobbly if you put too much twisting force the way these are meant to work.

Nice one Jimbo,These pliers are one of those tools that after you have one and use it you sometimes wonder how you did without it at times. Every DIY or PRO type should have at least one of these in their arsenal.

I work in IT and I have been using the linesman style ones as my everyday carry now. The cutter on them exceeded my expectations too, can’t wait until they get a little more broken in.

jeffmcmillan wrote:

How does the joint hold up? A lot of pliers flex in the joint and end up loose and wobbly if you put too much twisting force the way these are meant to work.

Haven’t used them much but they feel pretty solid.

Jimbo

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jeffmcmillan wrote:

How does the joint hold up?  A lot of pliers flex in the joint and end up loose and wobbly if you put too much twisting force the way these are meant to work.

I’ve had mine for like 6-8 months and use them regularly, they’re not showing the slightest sign of use on the jaws. The only signs of use are some scuffs on the grips. I actually removed my linesman and slip-joint pliers from my bag in favor of these so I use them in more ways than just the specialty tool it’s advertised as…though I’m considering the slip joint Engineer pliers because I’m limited in how wide the jaws open.

That sounds great, BMack.  I’ll definitely be getting a pair of the lineman style.

I’m definitely pretty tough of my pliers, but they never seem to hold up well.  Milwaukee pliers in particular seem almost as soft as the shockwave bits, which is really annoying since I like their designs.

jeffmcmillan wrote:

That sounds great, BMack.  I’ll definitely be getting a pair of the lineman style.

 

I’m definitely pretty tough of my pliers, but they never seem to hold up well.  Milwaukee pliers in particular seem almost as soft as the shockwave bits, which is really annoying since I like their designs.

The more I think about the tools I’ve complained about and seeing the complaints online, I think Chinese steel is a real problem. I’m sure there are Chinese manufacterers getting steel from other countries but it seems that most Chinese tools have soft metal. These pliers are made in Japan, they have a pretty good reputation for quality steel and I think that’s what we’re dealing with here…high quality steel.

BMack37 wrote:

The more I think about the tools I’ve complained about and seeing the complaints online, I think Chinese steel is a real problem. I’m sure there are Chinese manufacterers getting steel from other countries but it seems that most Chinese tools have soft metal. These pliers are made in Japan, they have a pretty good reputation for quality steel and I think that’s what we’re dealing with here…high quality steel.

I highly agree with this statement. Everything Japanese made I own from Pliers,to knives,to precision tools are always top notch. The Japanese are amazing metalurgists.

Fazzman wrote:

I highly agree with this statement. Everything Japanese made I own from Pliers,to knives,to precision tools are always top notch. The Japanese are amazinf metalurgists.

Yea the few Japanese made products I have are all high quality.

Jimbo

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looks like a nice set of pliers there Jimbo now I have to go to my ebay account and save these in my cart….Thanks a lot man.  Thanks for sharing!

Saw someone on another forum ask about these pliers, and I still love mine…so bumping this up for anyone that haven’t seen this incredibly useful tool.

Not all of the Engineer tools are winners. I bought the Engineer PZ-01 Ring Pliers and they simply don’t work because the jaws are too thick to fit under the clips, still good quality but not…uh…engineered well. So don’t buy these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TGHOAE

Funny you brought this up I was thinking about a video for these.

Jimbo

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JimboS1ice wrote:

50 minutes ago, JimboS1ice said:

Funny you brought this up I was thinking about a video for these.

Jimbo

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If you do, you may want to point out the ability for these to hold round objects really well. I use these often to pull out capacitors that I can’t get my fingers around because of clearance or if they’re glued in.

I like that you’re getting into doing these videos and covering a good variety. It’s a nice addition to what Dan and Eric provide.

PROTOOLNUT wrote:

WOW, with a name like that, I would assume these were a vampires torture pliars. They use them to force humans to tell them where the local blood banks are. Anyways, these look like a nice set, usually a good set of pliars will have grooves like that to grip nuts. You know, when you piss a woman off, its ifirst go to tool, but as always I digress. These should last you a long time provided you take care of them, such as a yearly oiling.

Actually they have an American import of these exact pliers under the name vamplier

Jimbo

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That’s cool haven’t so one of those before 

I still use mine fairly often. they are great pliers.

Can they grip a 6/32 screw without a head? That’s my typical problem. There was/is a problem with some Nutek WSW2 boxes where the holes for the 6/32 screws are too small. Typically by the time you notice you’re unable to abort without the head shearing off. It’s a complete PITA as the screw really welds itself to the box.

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noops wrote:

27 minutes ago, noops said:

Can they grip a 6/32 screw without a head? That’s my typical problem. There was/is a problem with some Nutek WSW2 boxes where the holes for the 6/32 screws are too small. Typically by the time you notice you’re unable to abort without the head shearing off. It’s a complete PITA as the screw really welds itself to the box.

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I used drill bits grabbing the shank and the smallest I could grab was 5/64th. They do make a smaller pair and also a larger pair.

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2 hours ago, noops said:

Can they grip a 6/32 screw without a head? That’s my typical problem. There was/is a problem with some Nutek WSW2 boxes where the holes for the 6/32 screws are too small. Typically by the time you notice you’re unable to abort without the head shearing off. It’s a complete PITA as the screw really welds itself to the box.

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They should be able to grip it yes. 6-32 is about the worst as far as fastener strength is concerned.

Yea they have a micro size that it could probably grab model pz-56 I think it its

Jimbo

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All four of these just got bumped to the top of my list, okay second to the top of my list.