18v cordless sds rotary hammer which one?

Hi guys,

Which one of these two cordless sds rotary hammer should i buy:

Bosch 3/4 181-01

Milwaukee 1″ 2712-22

-I need to dril holes between 5/32″ to 1/2″

-A bit of concrete chipping

-Already own Milwaukee and Bosch 18v tools

-Rarely overhead drilling

-Budget doesn’t matter

Which one is the best??

Thanks

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I think I would pick the drill with the larger capacity which would be the Milwaukee.

 

 

I think I would consider the bigger M18 fuel model if your not doing much overhead.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/M18-FUEL-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-1-1-8-in-SDS-Plus-Rotary-Hammer-Tool-Only/205563079

I’m with Jason on this one spend the exrta $50 and get the 1 1/8″ Milwaukee if you are on that battery platform. Now if you are on the Bosch battery platform get the Bosch

Agreed! I just got the 1 1/8 fuel and it’s like drilling into wood. The 50$ extra is well worth it !

Ok thank you guys!!!

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I cannot speak for the Bosch because I have not used one, but they make a great product. I do however LOVE my Milwaukee sds fuel. I picked it up about a month ago now and it’s awesome!

If it was me I would go with Bosch

The Bosch is sexier, but I doubt it would keep up with the FUEL. The FUEL SDSs can compete will 240V rotary hammer drills…

So how long could you chip concrete with the 1 1/8 Fuel? Let’s say with a 4.0

Test the two if possible. Speed isn’t the only thing to consider when you get a rotary hammer with chipping function. If you need to channel out wall or floor or drill holes for hours on end, you want the tool with better shock absorption over the one that gets it done a little faster. Also important is balance, size and weight. 

Speaking of ergonomics, the FUEL has the handle and trigger right in line with the bit, which is better.

Yupp. Looks like the fuel is much better on vibration and the ergonomic side.

Easy choice in my mind. Go for the fuel.

I got rid of my Fuel SDS. It was a very capable rotary hammer drill.

Design wise, the selector switch is clunky. It feels cheap. The balance is a little off as well. It’s fine for the odd anchor, but I wouldn’t want to use it all day again.

Battery life is actually quite good, on a full 4.0 I could do anchors all day on 1 – 1.5 batteries

The chipping is ok as well.

It was pretty lackluster driving ground rods but that isn’t its intended use.

Also, it’s noisy. Not just loud, it’s supposed to be loud, but motor whine, bearing screech etc.

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I have the Bosch and that sds loves concrete! I did some testing with it between my 36v Dewalt and 110v Dewalt. It beat both of them. My only gripe is the handle/grip style. I prefer it like the Milwaukee but I love my Bosch anyway.

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Coptool just announced that they are doing an 18v sds comparison next week. All Brands are there. If you can wait it out a week that comparison should give you a good idea 🙂

coptool are going crazy on the comparisons at the moment!

Nice thanks Konomaniac! I love tool comparison and i will wait for sure to see the result of this…but so far i think i would go fot the Milwaukee but the bigger model, which is the 2715-20…i have 6 battery with this platform and 4 of them are 5amp…

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Will go to the Milwaukee booth today. Will try to take some pics for ya.

ive had 4 bosch cordless sds drills and 3 milwaukee, the bosch are alot better in my experience, in both power and build quality. Ive not tried the new fuel ones but if i had to choose from scratch the bosch line wins hands down.

I would go with the Bosch

Yeah, but it doesn’t seem to even use any damping/anti-vibration?!

True, seems like the Bosch dampening isn’t that good.

 

However: 

 

http://www.ffx.co.uk/tools/product/Metabo%20Kha%2036%20Ltx%204007430267030%2036V%20Cordless%20Sds%20Hammer%20Drill%202%20X%205.2Ah%20Li%20Ion%20Kit

 

http://www.metabo.fr/Catalogue-outils-electroportatifs.24182+M551de348869.0.html

I own the Bosch RHH 181. I am very pleased with it’s performance. I would not hesitate to buy another one.

I prefer Makita dhr202 it’ very nice snd realiable tool

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Coptool just announced that they are doing an 18v sds comparison next week. All Brands are there. If you can wait it out a week that comparison should give you a good idea 🙂

i think the cop tool comparison turned out to not be sds just the 18v drills

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I looked up on CopTool Facebook page and there is a post on the 30th of october about this tool comparaison with the picture of all sds drill…??? I even tweet to them about it and no response…anyway i bought the Milwaukee 1″ 1/8 sds 18v fuel!!!’

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Yeah thats the facebook post i meant. Maybe they havent had the time yet. Anyway, since you already are invested in Milwaukee that was your best choise !

Makitas 2x18v (36 v) rotary hammer drilled faster then a big corded hilti its a pretty great rotary hammer

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Don’t want to be a kill joy but don’t forget that the best sds drill is as good as the drill bits used.

Love the Bosch S4L and X5L bit but also had amazing results with Diager

Cop tool put up their 18 volt SDS review:

Looks is like the Milwaukee is a beast, even faster than the 36v Makita. Makes me wonder, do 36v Makita tools act like 36v or do they really just double runtime?

JerryNY wrote:

Looks is like the Milwaukee is a beast, even faster than the 36v Makita. Makes me wonder, do 36v Makita tools act like 36v or do they really just double runtime?

 

 

Makita definitely has some lemons.  They seem to release a half dozen for every top-of-its-class tool, in fact I’ve heard the brushless rotary hammer is superior to the 18v2 (same design as the older 36V one) in almost every way.

JerryNY wrote:

Cop tool put up their 18 volt SDS review: http://youtu.be/vCDXPnPWhyw

Looks is like the Milwaukee is a beast, even faster than the 36v Makita. Makes me wonder, do 36v Makita tools act like 36v or do they really just double runtime?

Depends on the tool of course. The 18vX2 Rotary is just completly thesame model as their original 36v that come out 7 years ago. Brushed motor. Its an outdated model really. But if you have the batteries… The outdated model gives you quite the runtime and power.

Makitas 18v brushless Rotary was also one of the first ( if not the first ?) brushless Rotary on the market. 4 years now 🙂

18v brushless comes in close in performance to older brushed 36v designs and that is what we are seeing here 🙂

Same goes for the Makita 18v brushless circulair saw. Its very close in performance compared to the brushed 18X2 circulzr saw 🙂

The thing I don’t understand about a 2×18 battery setup that essentially doubles runtime is isn’t it just better to have the second battery in your bag or sitting in the charger until you need it? You still have two identical batteries and having the second on the tool only means you’re adding weight that you have to hold while you work. I’d rather just take the spare out and put it on the floor while I work to lighten the load if that’s the case.

Well there is an increase of power. No denying that. But a 36volt tool never has double the power. No single makita, dewalt or bosch 36 volt tool has ever been double as strong as their 18v versions.36 volt batteries were also used as a small increase of power with mostly a lot longer runtime.

The dual 18v can cut deeper then the single BL saw. It also has abit more power. But the runtime is quite longer.

If you want a cordless saw that can go 66mm deep ( sorry i dont know inches ) you can choose either the Milwaukee or the Makita. And as many comparisons have shown, the Makita easily wins in cutting power and runtime.

They have their uses 🙂