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Ok now people I know everyone here is into tools BUT I know there is a feud going on!!! I wanna know what is the best in cordless drills and who makes the best!!! Dewalt or Milwaukee???!!!
In my opinon Milwaukee…but realistically, it depends on the item and your preference. Milwaukee generally has better torque than the equivalent Dewalt but it’s normally by a negligible amount. The one thing Dewalt SMOKES Milwaukee on is bits, Milwaukee bits are garbage.
If you want the best best as much as it pains me the brushless Makita seems to be the best right now. If your just looking at just Dewalt or Milwaukee the Gen2 Fuel Milwaukee is defiantly the better drill now. Bmack is also right the first gen shockwave bits were pretty bad too. I would like to see how the new Shockwave bits hold up though. You really can’t go wrong with any of the brands just choose one that has the tools you want in it is the big thing I would stress over name and color.
To put it nicely, Dewalt is taking their time with high power brushless tools. It’s a bit of a tossup between Milwaukee and Makita for most powerful drill, but they both leave Dewalt in the dust.
I’m a Dewalt guy but as of right now I think it would be the Milwaukee gen 2
You can’t go wrong with Dewalt or Milwaukee
I like the 3 speeds of my Dewalt drill but milwaukee impacts are beasts.
Jimbo
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truth be told they will all do the trick, when will you not be able to drill something because you lack a couple inch pounds of torque……
I’ve been shattering dewalt impact bits all week. Is it different bits your talking of, back to wera for meBMack37 wrote:
In my opinon Milwaukee…but realistically, it depends on the item and your preference. Milwaukee generally has better torque than the equivalent Dewalt but it’s normally by a negligible amount. The one thing Dewalt SMOKES Milwaukee on is bits, Milwaukee bits are garbage.
I have all dewalt and my bro n law loves dewalt but he said that the new brushless Milwaukee impacts are beastly and they last a long time on a single charge compared to dewalt!!
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Yes I think you must be using the original Dewalt impact bits the best ones are the new flextorq ones the ph2 fits like a dreamTurner85 wrote:
I’ve been shattering dewalt impact bits all week. Is it different bits your talking of, back to wera for me
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YYes I think you must be using the original Dewalt impact bits the best ones are the new flextorq ones the ph2 fits like a dream
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I’ve been shattering dewalt impact bits all week. Is it different bits your talking of, back to wera for me
The best dewalt bits are the max fits, I’ve only seen them at HD, the flex torsion ones I got at lowes are barely worth the plastic they came in, they don’t fit very well, remind me of shockwave, they look like them to.
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Well I’m only going on the ones we get in the UK which are The new Dewalt extreme ones but they are the same as the flextorq you get in the U.S. But we can’t get the max fit ones either way they batter the Milwaukee ones !
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Bosch
maybe the pz2 are weaker. I shattered 4 this week. Same type as themCraigh9916 wrote:
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Yeah I love the ph2 so try them and see what you think the fit is brilliant and not broke one yet
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Milwaukee’s the best, that’s what I was told ???
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Yea those a garbage bits
Jimbo
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They do the job well for me and for the money I can’t complain especially compared to the shockwaves
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They do the job well for me and for the money I can’t complain especially compared to the shockwaves
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Maybe I just had a bad batch
Jimbo
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Maybe but Ive only been using the 50mm ph2 bits and they last and are great fit and maybe the pz2 bits aren’t as good ?
I will try the new shockwaves when they are released in the UK as they look good and hopefully they are priced the same as the older ones as in the UK you can’t knock the price just shame about the sloppy fit
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The only benefit of the original shockwave bits is they’re too soft to really strip out screws. The worst is jobsites that provide shockwave bits.
I’ve heard mixed reviews about the new shockwaves, but I’m hesitant to try them when even the teeth on milwaukee pliers are soft.
I just bought a few of the new shockwave bits and they seem to fit very well. I never used the old shockwave bits so I can’t compare them. I’ll try and let you guys know how they hold up.
Let us know how u like those bits Nicholas. And as far as who’s better milwaukee and Dewalt? I think they both are that’s why I own both 😉 best of both worlds!! Don’t get me wrong if I get the chance to add any other brands like makita,Bosch,metabo or even some of those snotty tools from festool I won’t hesitate to at all.
I think Milwaukee has the strongest offering at the moment, with Makita not far behind. If you’d like to do a bit of an analysis (mathematically), you can try downloading my comparison spreadsheet and tinkering with it yourself. The default values in it are just my opinion.
http://professional-power-tool-guide.com/power-tool-forum/index.php?/topic/6700-which-18v-brandplatform-is-best-you-for-try-this-calculator/
Makita takes first in my book really because of the size if their 18v lineup, 36v tools that use 2 18v batteries (more power without needing to buy into a new battery platform) and just overall high quality bulletproof tools.. but Milwaukee is right behind especially in something like their top end cordless drills. The two are essentially identical.
^^ Their incomplete backward compatibility is still a sore point for me, and other users I’m sure. Have they introduced their longer warranty yet? That will be a big evener of the two brands for me…
They upped their warranty to 3 years on all lxt tools and batteries..
I dont think any compatibility your talking about is as big of an issue as you think.. I currently have about 30 Makita tools,radios and lights with some of them being 7 years old and some of them brand new top end models. Also my battery packs are 3.0 ad 4.0 ranging in age from 2010-2015 and as far as I know I don’t have a single incompatable tool or battery..
try putting a 4AH battery on one of your older tools, like a grinder or recip etc. Mike (my oztooltalk partner) was so fed up with it, he just sold half his Makita gear (the incompatible stuff, and his 3ah batteries).
Makita haven’t advertised it much in Aus, but looks like their warranty here is 3/2 on tools/batts. Annoying we didn’t get the same 3/3 warranty like the US.
I recently experienced this problem. A friend of mine asked for a loan of a battery one day said he had a 18v lithium makita grinder. I gave him my 5ah battery and he said it wasn’t fitting. Thought he was doing something wrong till I seen it for myselfdwain wrote:
try putting a 4AH battery on one of your older tools, like a grinder or recip etc. Mike (my oztooltalk partner) was so fed up with it, he just sold half his Makita gear (the incompatible stuff, and his 3ah batteries).
Makita haven’t advertised it much in Aus, but looks like their warranty here is 3/2 on tools/batts. Annoying we didn’t get the same 3/3 warranty like the US.
I think that both of them are good. But I really appreciate Dewalt for its lifetime.
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try putting a 4AH battery on one of your older tools, like a grinder or recip etc. Mike (my oztooltalk partner) was so fed up with it, he just sold half his Makita gear (the incompatible stuff, and his 3ah batteries).
Makita haven’t advertised it much in Aus, but looks like their warranty here is 3/2 on tools/batts. Annoying we didn’t get the same 3/3 warranty like the US.
I do have a super old recip that I will try to put a 4ah on today. Truth be told I don’t ever use it because it sucks so much so I wouldnt have known about the issue.. I have a radio that is at least 6 or 7 years old that takes 4ah. I will check my grinder too but ever since I got a few of the BL models the old one just sits in my garage unused..
I have 10 3ah (8 in use and two brand new still in the pack) and 5 4ah that are in use, mixed with the 3ah. So chances are more likely I’m grabbing a 3ah and maybe I have just always gotten lucky..
There is a way the tool (maybe the pack) can be modified to work with all batteries but they are probably doing it so that the older tools without star protection won’t over discharge and kill the new batteries.. Modify at your own risk I guess..
NER hit the issue right in the nose its fact that Makita didn’t have good overload over discharge on their tools before the star protected tools and batteries came out. They want to keep people from frying their batteries and claiming them on warranty. Makita kinda got away easy with the battery issues they had.
this battle could go on for years but its all preference. I personally like my Milwaukee stuff. my boss has the dewalt drill. the only thing I can say is that they are each good at their own thing. so depending on what you want to use it for. if its just screws than either is great, the Milwaukee is heavier I find but I think its better quality.
I would love to have dewalts framing nailer because it is a beast, but I have Milwaukee stuff already and I wish milwaukee would come out with something just as good
Well, since this is the hand tool forum, though it kills me to admit this, Team Yellow has better hand tools (outside of Milwaukee’s excellent locking pliers). Power tools, I far prefer Milwaukee, but I’ll never make either brand break a sweat with my uses.
I’m loving the Hitachi tools I have.. I’ve gone with their ’18v Premium Brushless’. They are not that common in the US, but great tools.
I believe you need to decide whether in fact you need the drill with the most torque or not.. I opted for Hitachi’s second torquiest drill, feels super good in the hand, great chucks too. Really hoping their acquisition of Metabo doesn’t lead to an upset in their tool ranges though.
Milwaukee stomps Dewalt. Working in the tool department I see first hand the number of returns and condition of them when returned. Dewalt is no longer making a quality, heavy duty power tool. Milwaukee does. Not to mention a far better warranty with 5 years on the tools which doent cost you a dime to have fixed. Dewalt makes you pay for shipping and are extremelt stingy on what is covered for warranty repairs.
