BL 18V and BL 2x18V Recipe saws – Now with Official info !

BremonMember since Dec 2014

The Milwaukee M18s have small holes. I open mine up to clean debris out of the housing occasionally. Or do you mean something with the cells specifically?

kornomaniacMember since Oct 2014

DR99 wrote:

On 8/19/2016 at 6:17 AM, DR99 said:

You guys do realize your Makita batteries were probably just as hot as the Milwaukee and you were just burning the cells up shortening their lives. Also 3.0 LTX batteries were notorious for early failures even brand new packs due to bad cell monitoring.

There is no ‘ burning the cells’ in any modern cattery pack. Every pack shuts down when it over heats.

 

And what’s the Point of dragging back old issues from years past that have absolutly nothibg to do with current batteries overheating or not ? Milwaukee v18 sucked balls. As did dewalt nano lithium or what was it called again.

 

I Remember a tool fight video that Javier from toolcraze did between the brushless heavy duty Fuel gen 1 and the first dewalt heavy duty brushless. Drilling holes in a 2 by 4 to test runtimes. The Milwaukee overheated and the dewalt didnt. 

 

BremonMember since Dec 2014

Tool pig has a clip up on Instagram claiming x2 has more power. Watching the video he definitely gets through a tougher cut in better time with the x2 unit. 

Makita_2233Member since Aug 2016

Bremon wrote:

6 hours ago, Bremon said:

Tool pig has a clip up on Instagram claiming x2 has more power. Watching the video he definitely gets through a tougher cut in better time with the x2 unit. 

I saw that, I aslo have a video I did at a makita expo a few weeks ago. It’s a similar result as toolpig

jeffmcmillanMember since Jun 2015

I think they were designing for the same power but the two batteries hold up better under load more like using a compact vs full size battery. I’d expect it to fly through wood if they really designed for the full power of a 36V tool like the new brushless chainsaw.

BremonMember since Dec 2014

That’s what I suspect Jeff, same/similar motor/power, just better ability to handle voltage drop under heavy loads. 

dwainMember since Aug 2013

i think Makita have (for obvious reasons) handpicked a test that shows a difference between the 18V and 18×2 units. There’s always a way to show a tool in good light.

Makita_2233Member since Aug 2016

dwain wrote:

1 hour ago, dwain said:

i think Makita have (for obvious reasons) handpicked a test that shows a difference between the 18V and 18×2 units. There’s always a way to show a tool in good light.

Toolpig on Instagram has a video showing the same result as my video, 36v more powerful. It seems that makita are making  36v model, 18v model in Japan and China 

dwainMember since Aug 2013

Makita_2233 wrote:

11 hours ago, Makita_2233 said:

Toolpig on Instagram has a video showing the same result as my video

 

Yeah i saw that posted above? It is a similar test? Are either of them controlled (e.g. not different users)

Makita_2233Member since Aug 2016

dwain wrote:

6 hours ago, dwain said:

 

Yeah i saw that posted above? It is a similar test? Are either of them controlled (e.g. not different users)

Toolpig’s video is of him doing both. Something eles interesting is, he has a China made 36v and it doesn’t have a tool free shoe adjustment lever 

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

Toolpigs also has his saw without the adjustable shoe too from China


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KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

dwain wrote:

i think Makita have (for obvious reasons) handpicked a test that shows a difference between the 18V and 18×2 units. There’s always a way to show a tool in good light.


Were you able to notice a difference in power during your tests or even afterwards out of curiosity?

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dwainMember since Aug 2013

KnarlyCarl wrote:

5 minutes ago, KnarlyCarl said:


Were you able to notice a difference in power during your tests or even afterwards out of curiosity?

 

No, I couldnt find any difference in my testing. I only tested them for a couple of hours though…

joemontagueMember since May 2016

dwain wrote:

6 hours ago, dwain said:

 

No, I couldnt find any difference in my testing. I only tested them for a couple of hours though…

Dwain If you had to choose one would you get the one or two battery  

dwainMember since Aug 2013

I would need a significant performance boost to get me to choose the twin battery tool over single battery, and I just didn’t see it. So the 18V for me 🙂

joemontagueMember since May 2016

Does it vibrate bad

KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

Bremon wrote:

On 8/27/2016 at 7:57 PM, Bremon said:

 

joemontague wrote:

On 9/5/2016 at 8:43 PM, joemontague said:

Does it vibrate bad

From the accounts on Instagram I’ve read and trust to be accurate, the Makita has the most vibration between it and the fkexvolt and the fuel models, with the fkexvolt being the least amount

ICTMember since Sep 2016

the advantages of makita are these and others

Photo from the original forum

KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

ICT wrote:

2 minutes ago, ICT said:

the advantages of makita are these and others

Photo from the original forum

Ah yes, showing us this picture multiple times really helps hammer your point home, because I totally missed it the first 3 times you posted it?

ICTMember since Sep 2016

and also i want you to realize that you can put 6.0, 3 layered battery’s on the makita and therefor have twice the potential of the others. a higher voltage also helps reduce amp draw and therefore heat witch makes more potential possible…

Makita_2233Member since Aug 2016

ICT wrote:

On 11/11/2016 at 4:01 PM, ICT said:

and also i want you to realize that you can put 6.0, 3 layered battery’s on the makita and therefor have twice the potential of the others. a higher voltage also helps reduce amp draw and therefore heat witch makes more potential possible…

 

Can’t beat the Milwaukee one key, I have makita BL 36v and the Milwaukee one key saws. Milwaukee runs circles around the makita 

ChrisKMember since Dec 2012

I just ordered the brushless XRJ05 recip. Should have it in before Christmas and will post my opinion then. Looking forward to getting this, I have been for quite a while!

Tools & StuffMember since Apr 2016

I now have the 36v and have uploaded a vid on my channel about the tool. It is a nice unit, although better vibration control would be nice. Also mine is made in China and HAS the ‘easy adjust’ shoe. And came in a case despite being only a ‘skin only’ version.

kornomaniacMember since Oct 2014

Cool ! Here in belgium the models are only available with the adjustable shoe lever 🙂

joemontagueMember since May 2016

Got my new 18v  brushless  sawzall  today  I have  the 18×2  but I wanted  the lighter 18v love them both

Photo from the original forum

kornomaniacMember since Oct 2014

joemontague wrote:

On 13-1-2017 at 5:08 AM, joemontague said:

Got my new 18v  brushless  sawzall  today  I have  the 18×2  but I wanted  the lighter 18v love them both

Photo from the original forum

 

Does it even work with the compact battery? 😀

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