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I was preordering the new Iphone 6s plus. I have the regular Iphone6 plus which I really do like because of the bigger screen. My big complaint is how are you supposed to store 4k video and high megapixel photo’s on a tiny 16 gig Iphone?!?! Apps have gotten huge and plus even IOS my current phone only has like 5 gigs free. What I’m trying to get as its I can’t believe apple didn’t bump the default storage to at least 32 gigs stock, or get off their high horse an allow micro sd cards. This is my anti apple rant of the day!!
I had an iphone back in 2007, and it was only 4GB …lol I dropped Apple long ago because I can’t stand the way they do things…….Andriod you decide and with Apple they decide…..can’t stand it….never get an apple product again…..for me anyway…..
Sorry guys. All Apple. I have the 6plus with 64gig and I’m writing on this on my Air. I do pay a buck a month for additional storage but with the Mac I bought my Wife, it has a Terabyte. I love my Apples but……Android is totally awesome. Completely user friendly and customizable. I’m an Apple fan just like I’m a Festool Snob but I still gots me some Dewalts and Bosch’, Makitas and Milwaukees that I love! So I can appreciate Android for what it is. Plus I made the switch over about three years ago. Love the free texting and FaceTime.
I was thinking about Android for a minute, but I’m just so used to how IOS works. Well it wasn’t that bad back then when you have the first gen Iphone pictures didn’t take up much space, and at the start no apps besides the default ones. I just wish apple would allow sd card support or have realistic prices on storage. I would have been cool if they raised the price 50 bucks for more storage but 100 is flipping insane!!!
I think all of the phone companies use slave labor in China or other Asian countries. The one cool thing was when Google owned Motorola for a hot minute and did assemble a smartphone in the USA. I didn’t last long though. If I wasn’t getting the awesome deal with Sprint I’m getting right now I probably would have got the Moto G off contract. It does 95% of the stuff the more expensive phones do at 20% of the cost. If I will be honest all smartphones are overpriced for what they are really!! People are noticing now how expensive the high end phones are not that cellphone carriers are not doing contracts anymore. People were cool with an 80 dollar phone bill, but they think twice when their phone costs 650 dollars or more!! I have messed with Android and I’m a big pc guy, but I love the simplicity of the Iphone it does what I need with the least amount of messing around. I will say they do need to update the look of the IOS it looks so dated now why can’t I have weather on my home screen?!?!
Yeah Jason…..that when I though about going back was when they started pushing the USA made Motorola. I’ve been using Motorola products for the better side of 27 years. Most of their stuff is made in China though. Still good quality and when it comes to brass tax, I’ve placed my life in their hands and they have never failed me. I switched to iOS from android and just prior to the release of the 6+ I was just about to switch back because I couldn’t stand the stupid phone sizes but I really like iOS and the security features it provides because of their control of their whole system. I never used a Mac before but it’s really like using my iPad. Amazing how everything works together cohesively as opposed to Windows. My work laptop and desk station run different systems, drives me freakin nuts! Still though, Android is a great platform and I ALMOST went back.
Jason u finally moved up to a new phone bro? I’m still on 4s :/ but really thinking about getting the new iPhone that’s out for wifey and me keeping her 6plus it’s so damn big but the picture quality is so nice! That new galaxy’s that’s i
Out looks nice I don’t understand why Apple hasn’t came out with a water proof phone like them.
If you have Direct tv Sprint is giving you a free year or service. I know people complain about the service but free is free!!! I do miss the ole I phone 4 Mikez but to be honest it was time for her to be put out to pasture!!
Well the one cool thing BigMikez is your 4s will get to run IOS9. I have to say that phone seems to have the longest stretch of updates out of all the iphones. My Iphone4 lost support around IOS7. The only concern I have is how well will the new phone run!!!
I guess I’m really indifferent when it comes to phones. I switched from Apple to Android when the Note 3 came out with Samsung. I have really big hands and I like the larger “phablets”. At the time Apple only had the munchkin phones so I switched. I still have an iPhone for work so I guess I get the best of both worlds!
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Biggest scam ever, memory is so cheap now. They want $100 for a reasonable amount of storage. Who makes flagship phones with 16gb? No one. That’s who.
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of course it is a money grab….the whole industry is……there are almost the same amount of cell phones as there are people? wait…what…..if you have a gadget the entire planet wants you can pretty much do what you want…….
picture it 1973 John Mitchell and Martin Cooper sitting in a coffee shop in Chicago, Illinois saying someday everybody on the planet will have one of these things….
some guy walks by and says na….we won’t talk we’ll communicate with our thumbs someday…….
Apple better worry commodity priced Android phones from companies like Huawei are starting to erode premium phone pricing. I think Apple might get in some hot water by offering the 16 gig version. I think some enterprising lawyer could possibly put in a class action lawsuit that apples sold a phone where you cannot reasonably use its features with the storage they provided. I was looking but depending on compression your looking at 3.5 to 4 gigs for 10 minutes of video. They better offer a lower quality option for people that don’t want to max out their storage.
Funny that Jason. I got the email from Verizon and then apple and saw the storage…..$749 for SIXTEEN GIGS!!!!!! Now I know I ain’t that big of a crack head so……my Wife wants me to get this one and I think I’ll keep my 6+. Perfect size and super fast and the camera is nice. Plus 64gb.
Well Apple seems like a good value compared to the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge a 64 gig phone with them will set you back 914 dollars if you buy off contract. I have a problem when a phone is more expensive than a cheap beater of a car. I will probably be wrong, but I think we will see a massive reduction in the pricing of smart phones. We are at the point where I don’t think we will see features that make people go omg this is something I can’t like without. Even on the Android side your not seeing the big jumps forward in innovation anymore. The thing is they will get thinner and lighter and hopefully more battery life, but that’s about it. That’s why I kept my Iphone4 for so long It did what I needed it to do for the most part.
Jason just curious are you going to buy the 6s? I’m probably keeping my 6+. I really cannot imagine a new phone when this one is so freakin’ awesome. I shoot my videos on it, watch movies you name it! Plus the higher cavity storage is a real bonus.
the sad part of this industry is there are piles and piles of cell phones that work perfectly but because of hard coded upgrades by manufacturers and or providers they become useless and people are forced to upgrade…..thing is when you are paying close to the same money for a major appliance in your house as a cell phone you would think it will last longer than when THEY decide it is time. We live in a throw away world now, you won’t hear it’s almost 20 years old and still works fine……..
I’m going to upgrade that way if I switch carriers I will have one of the newest phones when I leave.
I gotcha that makes sense. Are you going to go with more storage?
Apple has customers that will pay the price tag. (Myself included)
I have an iPhone 5c, that is essentially almost a 4 year old phone at this point. Still going strong. I got it with AT&T next.
I’m having a hard time justifying the upgrade to a new phone (ideally the 6s+) since I still have the latest OS (iOS 9.1) and everything works perfectly.
I have a PC but I intend to hackintosh it.
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I gotcha that makes sense. Are you going to go with more storage?
I went with 64gig’s to future proof myself. I think 16 gigs is just way too tiny in todays world it was fine back in the era of the original Iphone4 even generous maybe back then now not so much. I know everyone talks about the cloud which is cool, but you don’t have good data everywhere and it can ruin any sort of data cap you have wifi excluded. I thought next allowed you to get a new phone every year or something.
Good article about the 16 gig storage problem. Apple will now allow 4gig apps now. I think the Iphone7 will have to bump it up to 32. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/sep/10/why-apple-should-not-be-selling-16gb-iphone-6s-6s-plus
Jason. Did you end up buying it straight out or doing the plan so it’ll get assumed by your new carrier?
I think that’s a mistake many people make wrt Apple. They avoid the race to the bottom by only trying to capture the big market share of the premium segment of the market, which they do exceedingly well. Someone really interested in video to the point they know about and want to actually shoot in 4K will just buy the biggest storage option. Also keep in mind this is a tool forum so most people posting here have at least some technical proficiency and love of such things. Many people still buy smart phones and use them like dumb phones or install few apps if any. Edit to add how many peeps today care only about FB, Twitter and Instagram?Jasonc wrote:
Apple better worry commodity priced Android phones from companies like Huawei are starting to erode premium phone pricing. I think Apple might get in some hot water by offering the 16 gig version. I think some enterprising lawyer could possibly put in a class action lawsuit that apples sold a phone where you cannot reasonably use its features with the storage they provided. I was looking but depending on compression your looking at 3.5 to 4 gigs for 10 minutes of video. They better offer a lower quality option for people that don’t want to max out their storage.
Also to decry that Apple uses slave labor when they take more of a hands on approach over their suppliers than most companies and then brag about buying a $100 phone is a little off base. That $100 phone is cheap because they probably had horrendous conditions for the workers to shave enough cost off to get it to you for that price. Also this is a tool forum where 95% of our favorite toys come from China 😉 The way I look at it as long as manufacturing is prominent in China and people take an interest things will improve but the government there has to be part of the solution and not part of the problem.
Apple has always charged crazy amounts for upgrades. Flash is so cheap these days there’s no way they need to charge what they do, but their fans/customers will keep paying for it.
If you don’t really care about having the latest iGadget why not give a cheaper Android phone a try?
I am also an Apple user/fan. I have an iPhone 5S and love it. Saves me money on having to buy new iPods. Last iPod was 5 months old when my wife accidentally put it in the laundry and ruined it. Previous phone was a Samsung Galaxy S3 and never liked Android. I also have an Android Samsung tablet and wife has an Galaxy S4. I just never got into it. Things on my Apple products just work. My Apple Airport Extreme has never once failed. My Macbook is great quality. I use Mac for work and what is great for me is that with it being Unix, I can run certain terminal features/programs that simply are a nightmare on Windows and when it is your career, every little helps and saves time and money. So Mac all the way. Along with Linux for Pen Testing/security.
I have some home computers running Windows 8 and 10. I totally hate it.
Would agree with all the posting on the cost of these phones. A damn rip off. My iPhone in the UK is currently £469. Apple makes a huge profit on these. I recently watched the Steve Jobs documentary and they stated Apple make over $300 profit!! per phone.
Yes there are loads of free apps on iOS. Having developed for the iOS platform I can say that one of the reasons why most developers will charge is that Apple make us pay $99 to submit our apps. Then it goes through Apple testing. Android was always free to submit to.
For using Macs in the workplace and knowing they will get pretty beat up on site, I simple save hundreds and buy them used. Right now buying a 2010 Macbook for work. The networking tools I use don’t need the latest and greatest architecture so no point spending 2 grand when I can spend $400 to get the same results.
I just wanted to say I wasn’t singling out your comment about the $100 android phone because I thought you were a jerk, just the opposite in fact because you actually gave thought to factory conditions half way around the globe. It’s just that it’s a super complicated problem and to single out Apple might not be exactly fair when they do seem to be at least interested in the problem. I’m not saying they’re perfect on the issue either.PROTOOLNUT wrote:
Its been a long time known that MACS are for business and Windows is for the home. When I was in school we had all MACS, and as long as you ran the occasional norton disk doctor program on them, they ran smoothly. But everyone knew that if you wanted to be a computer gamer, you needed Windows, and it took a very long time before Apple got their crap straight till their OS was made compatible enough for gaming. The problem now is just that MACS are too expensive still, nobody has 3 grand to just dump into the cost of a unit. Windows computer’s are cheaper, most notably in notebooks, and android phones and tablets are cheaper too.
I like the Android operating system, I think its very easy to use. Touchscreen controls are very responsive, I rarely have an app crash. Games are fun to play on the Android OS, and unlike apple, Android has a huge app base off of google play. Literally almost any app you can think of, they got for you to download. Most apps are free too unlike standard computer software, some you have to pay for yes, but my experience is most of it is free. Are there very many apps you can download free to use on Apple?
For full disclosure I do have iPhones, iPads and a Mac Pro, the little black paint can one with a Xeon hex core and dual 6GB GPU’s, so I like Apple but I can see their products aren’t for everyone. Macs today are way more consumer oriented but many tech people love MacBooks because they are so well made. My brother works for Google and he’s all Mac and most Googlers I’ve met use MacBooks or MBP’s. Most people don’t even realize that Google and Apple used to be really tight and to this day Google still gets employee discounts on Mac’s throught the Apple Store. I got a discount on my Mac Pro through my bro and saved enough money to get the blazing fast 1TB SSD in my mini tower included, I think it’s 1.25GB/s fast – there are faster now but this was a year and half ago.
Apple’s touch screen tech is usually top notch. I think gaming is actually bigger on iOS than android currently and the new AppleTV might actually eat away at the console business for casual gaming. You’ll never replace a dedicated console for high end graphics but the new SoC in the iPad Pro shows Apple is hell bent on making their chips dominant in GPU power and they’ve had an astonishing last few years the way they’ve increased the performance and still kept these mobile chips’ power budget low. The Apple store is more lucrative for Devs to make money but I still think free apps outnumber paid ones and the Google store and Apple App Store both have like 1.5million + apps each so you could download apps constantly and delete them all day and night and still not even dent the library. What Apple products have going for them is even though they tend to be more expensive they do hold their resale value better than most so you end up selling them instead of throwing them away or locking them away in a drawer somewhere.