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I know a bunch of milwaukee boys are gonna be saying how this is not a fare tool fight or “pre drilled holes” blah blah but this was at the milwaukee evant at atlas tool shop today and i see nothing unfare and i personally know this guy he is the real deal a general contractor who knows his tools and uses his tools on the daily he owns and loves every brand
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This is a side by side i k ow boths guys and apparently the milwaukee rep was there to see it and was pretty bummed but its all far and legit
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Not exactly scientific. One guy handles the Makita like a pro, one guy holds the Milwaukee cock eyed and lets it shake the crap out of him. My 2653 hasn’t rattled my brain the way that 2753 seems to lol. Hopefully I’m not disappointed when I get my hands on one.
One test does not make a full comparison though. Purely from the spec sheet this would be predicted. I think the Makita is 3600RPM while the Milwaukee runs 3000RPM. Doesn’t the Milwaukee have 1800 in-lbs of torque vs.1600 for the Makita? This would mean the Milwaukee could drive everything the Makita could albeit a little slower but then there would be stuff the Makita would get stopped on that the Milwaukee would keep driving, that and near the Makita’s maximum torque the Milwaukee would be having a much easier time and be faster. They’re both great but if you’re doing lags longer than your forearm I think a Makita or Milwaukee impact wrench would be the way to go 😉
I could care less who wins any tool fight but the guy operating the Milwaukee should learn how to use a tool…..the other guy was using the tool straight on and not strugling….the Milwaukee user always had the tool at an angle and could barely hang on to it.
Really shows the Makita has more power behind it even if the Milwaukee has more torque. The long lag has a lot more spring so it makes the difference much more visible. Other situations the Milwaukee might win, but looks like the Makita will win 90+% of the time.
It’s not a surprising result. The Makita has great power and HUGE RPM. For most contractors (IMO), driving batten screws like that is the hardest job they’ll give their impact driver most days.
Will it be a different story driving enormous lags without pre-drilling? We shall see when a more comprehensive comparison is done.
For my money, the tiny Makita with 3600RPM will be very hard to beat for most contractors.
On a slightly tangential topic but does anyone else remember before impact drivers became ubiquitous struggling to use drills to drive even much smaller lags and now you see tiny impact drivers nonchalantly driving in 2 ft. lags…
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I know a bunch of milwaukee boys are gonna be saying how this is not a fare tool fight or “pre drilled holes” blah blah but this was at the milwaukee evant at atlas tool shop today and i see nothing unfare and i personally know this guy he is the real deal a general contractor who knows his tools and uses his tools on the daily he owns and loves every brand
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I didn’t say it has pre-drilled holes, I said the way he did his video you couldn’t tell because the video starts while driving …..I also said if it that Makita wins that test so be it. I own both big boy Milwaukee fuel drill and impact and am happy enough to keep them and not run out and buy Makita…….like I also said I have worked with some kind of power tools for longer than some of the members have known what power tools are and I am firm with Milwaukee Quality and performance …..
I dont remeber who it was but on one of the other videos i posted someone or more then one person mentions somwthing about pre drilled holes for the makita and also said the makita had a head start but he it is a clear cut case but anyway this isnt posted to start another makita milwaukee battle im just showing the new hyped up gen 2 fuel impact for a first hands on little clip of it in actioncomp56 wrote:
I didn’t say it has pre-drilled holes, I said the way he did his video you couldn’t tell because the video starts while driving …..I also said if it that Makita wins that test so be it. I own both big boy Milwaukee fuel drill and impact and am happy enough to keep them and not run out and buy Makita…….like I also said I have worked with some kind of power tools for longer than some of the members have known what power tools are and I am firm with Milwaukee Quality and performance …..
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Man the guy holding the milwaukee really did a bad job at using that impact, not that I’m saying it means anything they’re both Beast and would be happy to own either.
Ya my buddy was saying its how the milwaukee is balanced and it has a really bad wobbleBigmikez wrote:
Man the guy holding the milwaukee really did a bad job at using that impact, not that I’m saying it means anything they’re both Beast and would be happy to own either.
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I think this forum needs a TOOL FIGHT section were member can get their aggression out!
Lol theres no agression but it would be cool to drill your drill to a drill off competitionJerryNY wrote:
I think this forum needs a TOOL FIGHT section were member can get their aggression out!
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That doesn’t mirror my ownership experience with the 2453 or 2653 M12/M18 Impact drivers at all. I could buy it being that specific driver, but representative of all 2753s? I would find that harder to believe. We will see when more reviews come out.torontotoolman wrote:
Ya my buddy was saying its how the milwaukee is balanced and it has a really bad wobble
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Don’t worry in a couple weeks we’ll have dozens of comparisons to look at..,
Its a cool first look.
But its like dwain says. The 3600/rpm of the Makita is what makes the difference and will make the Makita an easy winner in 99 procent of impact use.
Having more torque is all cool and that but the only time your impact actually delivers that maximum torque is on a hard connection metal on metal when the bolt head hits the metal beneath it and the bolt cant go any further. Only then will that maximum torque been transfered.
Max torque hardly matters on an impact in 99 procent of the cases
kornomaniac wrote:
Max torque hardly matters on an impact in 99 procent of the cases
Yeah, but if you’re trying to sink 3/8″ or 1/2″ lag screws into timber without pre-drilling, the max torque starts to matter a lot. As much as un-drilled lag torque tests look great on video, I just don’t think its that common in real life.
Also, unloaded RPM means nothing. Tools need to have enough power behind them when a real world load is applied, to keep those RPMs high enough. This is where the Makita shines, and it really blew me away.
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Makita is my 2nd favorite and it’s nice to see other companies stepping up their game..but no matter what anyone says..if you buy any of the top 5 or so drill brands your going tobe plenty enough happy and get the job done jus as efficiently!!
Competition in consumer base products is only better for the consumer!!!
But those new makitas are pretty badass and I’m digging these new colors!!!
Yeah the top brands are quite close together. We’re focusing on just that little bit of extra oomph being tool nuts ^^
I think it’s the 3800 to 3600 IPM rather than the RPM’s that makes the bigger difference since it’s under load. But either way, both great tools, but Makita’s cost $369 compared to $299 Milwaukee ;D
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Yeah the top brands are quite close together. We’re focusing on just that little bit of extra oomph being tool nuts ^^
Yea being tool maniacs that most of us are on here we gotta split hairs on what’s the top dog!!! Hahaha wouldn’t have it any other way!!!
I feel you to be real each tool brand has there followers and its kinda like a gang but obviously not in a criminal way but to be honest every tool is good but people just want there brand “gang” “color” to be the bestYiKKiT wrote:
Yea being tool maniacs that most of us are on here we gotta split hairs on what’s the top dog!!! Hahaha wouldn’t have it any other way!!!
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Man the salt… Haha but both guns look great spec wise. To see a little drill do so much is amazing. Buuuutt. #MakitaNation lol
Hahah makita nation forsureswaglosrevival wrote:
Man the salt… Haha but both guns look great spec wise. To see a little drill do so much is amazing. Buuuutt. #MakitaNation lol
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Hey hows that new saw treating you man wheres the vids and pics hahhaswaglosrevival wrote:
Man the salt… Haha but both guns look great spec wise. To see a little drill do so much is amazing. Buuuutt. #MakitaNation lol
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I was about to post the pics once I got to a red light lol. I tried a video but Tapatalk kept freezing
Ya i find tap talk wont let.me upload videos unless there 15 secs or less lol i dont know how some guys post there personal bigger videosswaglosrevival wrote:
I was about to post the pics once I got to a red light lol. I tried a video but Tapatalk kept freezing
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Yea I see other ppl have there vids up. I still have it maybe I gotta upload it on the computertorontotoolman wrote:
Ya i find tap talk wont let.me upload videos unless there 15 secs or less lol i dont know how some guys post there personal bigger videos
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Ya thats what i was thinking like when i first got my makita coil nailer i was out in my back yard working and i made an unboxing vid lol but wasnt able to upload itswaglosrevival wrote:
Yea I see other ppl have there vids up. I still have it maybe I gotta upload it on the computer
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Yo I gotta see the coil nailer in action. I didn’t even know they made coil framing nailers until yesterday looking like a straight idiot [emoji17] [emoji379] lol. But man that’s good to know! A Coil framing nail would hold a lot more nails.torontotoolman wrote:
Ya thats what i was thinking like when i first got my makita coil nailer i was out in my back yard working and i made an unboxing vid lol but wasnt able to upload it
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Bud you have no idea i like coil nails a lot we use them more the. Stick framers but ya the makita goes hard so powerful and built very good plua they got the makita name lifted in a kinda rubber on the side as a stopper for when you put it down [External image (images.tapatalk-cdn.com), not copied]swaglosrevival wrote:
Yo I gotta see the coil nailer in action. I didn’t even know they made coil framing nailers until yesterday looking like a straight idiot [emoji17] [emoji379] lol. But man that’s good to know! A Coil framing nail would hold a lot more nails.
swaglosrevival wrote:
Yo I gotta see the coil nailer in action. I didn’t even know they made coil framing nailers until yesterday looking like a straight idiot [emoji17] [emoji379] lol. But man that’s good to know! A Coil framing nail would hold a lot more nails.
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If you look at the pic thr makita sign is raise and made of rubber
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That is bomb! I will get one eventually lootorontotoolman wrote:
If you look at the pic thr makita sign is raise and made of rubber
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Ya thats how i feel about the brushless circ saw i will gey one eventually lol just hope sooner then later lolswaglosrevival wrote:
That is bomb! I will get one eventually loo
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i’d agree the makita is clearly ahead in this comparison. it’s spinning 20% faster and neither is likely approaching their torque limit, so i wouldnt be surprised to see the makita win this type of comparison 19 out of 20 times.
about the color, though! the lime green was driving me crazy, so i finally looked it up and apparently in japan they offer the same impact in 5 colors: their traditional blue, white, black, PINK!, and the lime green. they even had a gold 100th anniversary for a limited time. i love my red, but i have to admit if milwaukee did a special edition in black or gold i’d be having yet another uncomfortable conversation with my wife
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My local tool shop atlas machinery carrys them other wise you would need to order them off a. Guy in japan over ebay but with atlas you get the warranty but ya i really want the black one but i cant justify it right now i already have a new makita impact and its the one just under this one with 3 speed so im actually ok but it would be cool to say you own the most powerful impactankur wrote:
i’d agree the makita is clearly ahead in this comparison. it’s spinning 20% faster and neither is likely approaching their torque limit, so i wouldnt be surprised to see the makita win this type of comparison 19 out of 20 times.
about the color, though! the lime green was driving me crazy, so i finally looked it up and apparently in japan they offer the same impact in 5 colors: their traditional blue, white, black, PINK!, and the lime green. they even had a gold 100th anniversary for a limited time. i love my red, but i have to admit if milwaukee did a special edition in black or gold i’d be having yet another uncomfortable conversation with my wife
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Those colors are bad ass. Lime green and all black both look killer. If Milwaukee had some special edition colors I would have a hard time resisting.
I feel you its hard because its not just the colors on those impact they arr built in japan not china and as yall can see the power it has the cool colors are just the cherru on top honestly if i had an impact attached to my belt and used on the daily i would have already had oneBremon wrote:
Those colors are bad ass. Lime green and all black both look killer. If Milwaukee had some special edition colors I would have a hard time resisting.
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I accidentally posted in the other makita thread but I gotta get one of those lime green demons! Probably gonna have to sell my xtd08!
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wow, I didn’t realize that. That would seal the deal for me, if I could get M18 made in USA (or Canada, Germany, etc.) I would be all over that.torontotoolman wrote:
they arr built in japan not china
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Hey man maybe milwaukee will as they say listen to there users and start build in the U.SBremon wrote:
wow, I didn’t realize that. That would seal the deal for me, if I could get M18 made in USA (or Canada, Germany, etc.) I would be all over that.
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That’s about the only area where I wish they would follow Dewalt’s lead.
Ya i feel the same wayBremon wrote:
That’s about the only area where I wish they would follow Dewalt’s lead.
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[emoji16] it is cool.. It is….torontotoolman wrote:
My local tool shop atlas machinery carrys them other wise you would need to order them off a. Guy in japan over ebay but with atlas you get the warranty but ya i really want the black one but i cant justify it right now i already have a new makita impact and its the one just under this one with 3 speed so im actually ok but it would be cool to say you own the most powerful impact
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Bremon wrote:
That’s about the only area where I wish they would follow Dewalt’s lead.
Actually they are. They are opening an assembly factory just like dewalt in Wisconsin. But both dewalt and Milwaukee parts are still made in China. But who’s isn’t anymore. Even makita is hard to find made in Japan. It’s a nice thought bringing jobs to the US but I wish both company’s would have 100% USA products.
Well that’s good news, jobs are still jobs. I don’t particularly care that it’s in USA (I would certainly prefer Canada haha) but I’m absolutely all for an honest day’s pay for an honest day’s work and PRC proves time and time again it doesn’t give a rat’s ass about that.
Bremon wrote:
Well that’s good news, jobs are still jobs. I don’t particularly care that it’s in USA (I would certainly prefer Canada haha) but I’m absolutely all for an honest day’s pay for an honest day’s work and PRC proves time and time again it doesn’t give a rat’s ass about that.
Does dewalt manufacture in Canada at all?