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Just to show the power in makita brushless motors this is the 6.5 circ saw vs a big bad worm drive and the makita keeps up neck n neck to it
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That’s awesome. NER loves his brushless Makita. I’d like to see that guy up against the Fuel. Especially for line of sight. The Makita looks awesome. But that Fuel looks awesome too.
This guy did a tool fight between the fuel and geuss what the makita wins lol il post that tool fight later but ya the makita is awsome prob the only cordless noñe worm drive il buyChrisK1970 wrote:
That’s awesome. NER loves his brushless Makita. I’d like to see that guy up against the Fuel. Especially for line of sight. The Makita looks awesome. But that Fuel looks awesome too.
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T Man post that video bro I want to watch that
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T Man post that video bro I want to watch that
Ok this is it on the left is obviously the fuel on the top you can see it bogs down so thats why there are to shots of it but the makita is smooth right thruu
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. Thanks T Man!! I would take either one of thesetorontotoolman wrote:
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Ok this is it on the left is obviously the fuel on the top you can see it bogs down so thats why there are to shots of it but the makita is smooth right thruu
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Oh ya forsure both leaders and top competiters in power tools im planing on getting the makita eventually but the guy who makes these tool fights on man have every makita every fuel every bosch some dewalt like this guys tool collection is amazingBigmikez wrote:
. Thanks T Man!! I would take either one of these
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. Man that’s how I wanna be when I grow up :}torontotoolman wrote:
Oh ya forsure both leaders and top competiters in power tools im planing on getting the makita eventually but the guy who makes these tool fights on man have every makita every fuel every bosch some dewalt like this guys tool collection is amazing
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Forsure bro i feel the sameBigmikez wrote:
. Man that’s how I wanna be when I grow up :}
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This guy seems like he’s sponsored by Makita.
Hes not at all actually he won a fuel sawzall from milwaukee he uses every tool just makita is his favorite he says and he feels they dont market properly so he likes to show them off hea not the only guy i follow on instagram who do the tool fights and and love makita hahaaustinthecity wrote:
This guy seems like he’s sponsored by Makita.
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torontotoolman wrote:
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Just to show the power in makita brushless motors this is the 6.5 circ saw vs a big bad worm drive and the makita keeps up neck n neck to it
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Didn’t the boys from oz tool talk do a comparison between the makita and Milwaukee 6 1/2 circ saws. I remember them saying the fuel definitely has more power. Any idea, maybe I’m thinking wrong.
I follow Paul on instagram too. He has an arsenal of amazing tools. Pick up some good tips from his page.
DarynH wrote:
Actually here is the video.
Thanks DarynH, beat me to it! I just switched over to Milwaukee, in large part so I could have that saw 🙂
Funny with that video how some markets get the vac port on the saw. I guess they have stricter dust regs.
Testing things is so subjective but any time I get a new saw I throw a Diablo on it to replace the OEM blade. My ancient Ryobi 5-3/8 saw was renewed like a new tool twice, once adding Lithium batteries and the second time throwing a thin kerf Diablo on it.
JerryNY wrote:
Funny with that video how some markets get the vac port on the saw. I guess they have stricter dust regs.
Testing things is so subjective but any time I get a new saw I throw a Diablo on it to replace the OEM blade.
Yep, good plan. We used the same brand new (cheap Irwin) blades on both in our comparison.
Wow Makita really stepping up . This saw with the 30 min charge time for the 3 amp batteries you could really get some work done
dwain wrote:
Yep, good plan. We used the same brand new (cheap Irwin) blades on both in our comparison.
Yeah you guys do great reviews, that wasn’t aimed at you. I assumed you normalized the test with identical blades. I’m just saying anyone can have an old saw with an old blade sitting in it lying around and put it up against a brand new one and feel the new one is more powerful when you can turn a hero of a saw into a dud with a crappy worn out blade.
Ya hes a good guy so you follow toolaholic as wellDarynH wrote:
I follow Paul on instagram too. He has an arsenal of amazing tools. Pick up some good tips from his page.
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Well everybody iv talked to who has both saws like the makita more but say they are very close in comparison plus iv seen the makita cut smoother i even posted on here a little clip and you can clearly see the milwaukee bog down well the makita cuts threw smooth soo i dont know iv seen your guys review and it seems like you go off stats and your personal opinions but in reality milwaukee is known for boosting up the stats soo cant really rely on that and also are you guys really testing out the saws cutting wet PT cutting large lumbers making cut aftrt cut? Just wondering but i am not knocking your guys reviews i really like them you guys do a good job but im not 100 percent sure the milwaukee will actually kick the makitas assdwain wrote:
Thanks DarynH, beat me to it! I just switched over to Milwaukee, in large part so I could have that saw 🙂
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torontotoolman wrote:
Well everybody iv talked to who has both saws like the makita more but say they are very close in comparison plus iv seen the makita cut smoother i even posted on here a little clip and you can clearly see the milwaukee bog down well the makita cuts threw smooth soo i dont know iv seen your guys review and it seems like you go off stats and your personal opinions but in reality milwaukee is known for boosting up the stats soo cant really rely on that and also are you guys really testing out the saws cutting wet PT cutting large lumbers making cut aftrt cut? Just wondering but i am not knocking your guys reviews i really like them you guys do a good job but im not 100 percent sure the milwaukee will actually kick the makitas ass
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You’re most welcome to like the Makita better, there’s no right or wrong answer 🙂
What stats are there to quote on a circ saw? Neither offer a power rating of any sort. What else can we say but our personal opinions based on our use of the tools? I’ve used both on the same material with the same blade on the same night, and can say unequivocally that the Milwaukee has a little more guts. It also lasted a bit longer before the overload cut-in (on both saws). Having said that the Makita is lighter and didn’t leave dust on workpiece.
I didn’t say that the Milwaukee kicks ass. I think you want the Makita to be better and don’t like hearing otherwise. Don’t worry, I don’t mind if Iyou’re not convinced, that isn’t my aim.
JerryNY wrote:
I’m just saying anyone can have an old saw with an old blade sitting in it lying around and put it up against a brand new one and feel the new one is more powerful when you can turn a hero of a saw into a dud with a crappy worn out blade.
It’s a really good point. A new (thin kerf) blade can make any saw feel so much more powerful. People really love the BlueMak blades that come on the Makita.
torontotoolman wrote:
Ya hes a good guy so you follow toolaholic as well
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Yeah I think I found toolaholic first then seen all the stuff he shared from toolpig. Between the two of them it’s unbelievable the tools and info they have.
dwain wrote:
You’re most welcome to like the Makita better, there’s no right or wrong answer 🙂
What stats are there to quote on a circ saw? Neither offer a power rating of any sort. What else can we say but our personal opinions based on our use of the tools? I’ve used both on the same material with the same blade on the same night, and can say unequivocally that the Milwaukee has a little more guts. It also lasted a bit longer before the overload cut-in (on both saws). Having said that the Makita is lighter and didn’t leave dust on workpiece.
I didn’t say that the Milwaukee kicks ass. I think you want the Makita to be better and don’t like hearing otherwise. Don’t worry, I don’t mind if Iyou’re not convinced, that isn’t my aim.
Dwain your reviews are probably some of my favorites, you guys really give a great opinion without any hype. Hope you two can get back at if circumstances allow.
Oh ya i hung out with tool aholic at atlas befor for the makita evant hes a cool dude and knows his stuffDarynH wrote:
Yeah I think I found toolaholic first then seen all the stuff he shared from toolpig. Between the two of them it’s unbelievable the tools and info they have.
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Makita does have a history of delivering all their saws with a quality blade out of the box 🙂 also noticable on mitre saws
Sometimes msrp on the blade is practially the same as the saw with Makita
They had the same blades on them? Not to argue, you are entitled to your own opinion, but you’re arguing with a guy who did side by side tests with identical blades. The only real way to get an idea is to put the same blades on em. I’ve never seen any horsepower or other stats from Milwaukee, so not sure what numbers they are inflating according to you, but their cuts per charge quotes are usually repeatable and often surpassed in testing. Still it’s the marketing dept. which always sugarcoats things for every maker. Makita is an oddball though, they don’t seem to have a marketing dept. at all lol. It might be a good thing but if you aren’t pushing your product someone else is gonna push theirs.torontotoolman wrote:
Well everybody iv talked to who has both saws like the makita more but say they are very close in comparison plus iv seen the makita cut smoother i even posted on here a little clip and you can clearly see the milwaukee bog down well the makita cuts threw smooth soo i dont know iv seen your guys review and it seems like you go off stats and your personal opinions but in reality milwaukee is known for boosting up the stats soo cant really rely on that and also are you guys really testing out the saws cutting wet PT cutting large lumbers making cut aftrt cut? Just wondering but i am not knocking your guys reviews i really like them you guys do a good job but im not 100 percent sure the milwaukee will actually kick the makitas ass
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@jerryNY
In my opinion Milwaukee always claims alot more about then actual testing shows. Milwaukee new tool event 2014. They brought out their new bigger blade fuel. Some very big claims like usual in runtime. Run times Alot beter then the 18+18 v Makita ( they had these piles of cut down pieces of 2 by 4 )
A few months later when the YouTube and website reviewers got their hands on the tools. Runtime and power were both better on the Makita. Not by a small Margin either.
Milwaukee’s marketing team is the best at creating hype and stelling bullshit to people imo 🙂 that works of course. No doubt about that !
kornomaniac wrote:
@jerryNY
In my opinion Milwaukee always claims alot more about then actual testing shows. Milwaukee new tool event 2014. They brought out their new bigger blade fuel. Some very big claims like usual in runtime. Run times Alot beter then the 18+18 v Makita ( they had these piles of cut down pieces of 2 by 4 )
A few months later when the YouTube and website reviewers got their hands on the tools. Runtime and power were both better on the Makita. Not by a small Margin either.
Milwaukee’s marketing team is the best at creating hype and stelling bullshit to people imo 🙂 that works of course. No doubt about that !
I agree Milwaukee has a marketing team that lives to hype but the tools speak for themselves. I don’t think they’re selling bullshit when the tools do the work. They make solid tools imo. Which so does makita, everyone has a pretty comparable quality anymore. I’ve seen some bullshit marketing from the boys in yellow and teal before as well. Why can’t we all just play nice and be happy there are such kickass tools available?
Thanks bud i was feeling the milwaukee heat from those guys with no makita back up untill you showed upkornomaniac wrote:
@jerryNY
In my opinion Milwaukee always claims alot more about then actual testing shows. Milwaukee new tool event 2014. They brought out their new bigger blade fuel. Some very big claims like usual in runtime. Run times Alot beter then the 18+18 v Makita ( they had these piles of cut down pieces of 2 by 4 )
A few months later when the YouTube and website reviewers got their hands on the tools. Runtime and power were both better on the Makita. Not by a small Margin either.
Milwaukee’s marketing team is the best at creating hype and stelling bullshit to people imo 🙂 that works of course. No doubt about that !
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We need to put one guy from each tool line in a cage armed with there cordless circular saw and have a fight to the death. Only way we can end this argument
Turner85 wrote:
We need to put one guy from each tool line in a cage armed with there cordless circular saw and have a fight to the death. Only way we can end this argument
Haha that’s it. Makita rep vs milwaukee. They have to have matching blades though
Even the subtle teal is poor marketing compared to the bright red, orange, and yellow tools of other brands. I’m thinking of the makita sitting there quietly in the drill fight while dan and eric rave about the other two winners and all the losers.
Hahah lol makita is the quite guy that will fuck up the whole room lol its true oh well what can you do the people who use makita know what power and heavy duty tools the have in there handjeffmcmillan wrote:
Even the subtle teal is poor marketing compared to the bright red, orange, and yellow tools of other brands. I’m thinking of the makita sitting there quietly in the drill fight while dan and eric rave about the other two winners and all the losers.
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Thats actually really funnyy hahaTurner85 wrote:
We need to put one guy from each tool line in a cage armed with there cordless circular saw and have a fight to the death. Only way we can end this argument
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Haha same blade is all they have hahah first thing the loseing team will crt about… ” wait wait wait.what kinda blad3 does that makita have theres no way it won with the same blade as my fuel” lolDarynH wrote:
Haha that’s it. Makita rep vs milwaukee. They have to have matching blades though
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kornomaniac wrote:
@jerryNY
In my opinion Milwaukee always claims alot more about then actual testing shows. Milwaukee new tool event 2014. They brought out their new bigger blade fuel. Some very big claims like usual in runtime. Run times Alot beter then the 18+18 v Makita ( they had these piles of cut down pieces of 2 by 4 )
A few months later when the YouTube and website reviewers got their hands on the tools. Runtime and power were both better on the Makita. Not by a small Margin either.
Milwaukee’s marketing team is the best at creating hype and stelling bullshit to people imo 🙂 that works of course. No doubt about that !
I hear you but don’t take what I’m saying as bashing Makita in any way. I’m just saying that you can’t really say you don’t trust Milwaukee marketing on the one hand and then blindly trust random internet videos on the other without knowing more about them. Both are dicey at best for accuracy.
Makita makes great tools. I do think they are a little stubborn though, the whole not invented here syndrome kinda thing where they refuse to put battery indicators on their batteries for the longest time as an example when they could have obviously done this year and years ago. The same goes with their lackluster marketing. Like their tools speak for themselves which is fine, they are good tools, but in this age of media you have to toot your own horn wether you like it or not.
Yep, Makita and Milwaukee are both making really good tools at the moment.
One wants to spend big in marketing, the other doesn’t, whatever.
Yeah i hadnt said that toronto’s random movie is any fact nor did i said anything about Makita.
Just praising the Milwaukee marketing guys for their ingenius use of catchy terms ( redlink Electronics and red lithium. Its all thesame crap as any other brand but it sounds flashy of course )/ amazing displays of runtime which do not seem to hold up in any test not done by Milwaukee himself.
I also think that for the moment Milwaukee and Makita are a notch above the other Brands.
That being said i think Bosch and Makita are the Brands that throw the least marketing bullshit around to comfound not knowledgable potentiaal buyers.
Those Japanse havent even ever heard of the term ‘ marketing ‘ before
kornomaniac wrote:
I also think that for the moment Milwaukee and Makita are a notch above the other Brands.
That being said i think Bosch and Makita are the Brands that throw the least marketing bullshit around to comfound not knowledgable potentiaal buyers.
Actually I think Metabo take the cake for least Market..y, at least over here in Aus. But I agree with your sentiment.
kornomaniac wrote:
Yeah i hadnt said that toronto’s random movie is any fact nor did i said anything about Makita.
Just praising the Milwaukee marketing guys for their ingenius use of catchy terms ( redlink Electronics and red lithium. Its all thesame crap as any other brand but it sounds flashy of course )/ amazing displays of runtime which do not seem to hold up in any test not done by Milwaukee himself.
I also think that for the moment Milwaukee and Makita are a notch above the other Brands.
That being said i think Bosch and Makita are the Brands that throw the least marketing bullshit around to comfound not knowledgable potentiaal buyers.
Those Japanse havent even ever heard of the term ‘ marketing ‘ before
I don’t disagree with the amount of flashy gimmicks that Milwaukee uses. But makita actually does have some marketing ploys themselves. Like miss makita. (Not that I’m against it in the least
How DARE you call Miss Makita a marketing ploy!! I take umbrage at that, major umbrage. I’m not even a Makita guy and I feel the need to defend Miss Makita and all those photos they make her take in skimpy outfits holding nice tools. That takes work man. Again how DARE YOU! I need to study this further and look at more photos just to be sure…
Haha haha 😀 well not even a miss Makita here in belgium 😀
And metabo is quite known here. Its Milwaukee that you almost do not find in belgium. Altho they are gaining traction in the market 😀
JerryNY wrote:
How DARE you call Miss Makita a marketing ploy!! I take umbrage at that, major umbrage. I’m not even a Makita guy and I feel the need to defend Miss Makita and all those photos they make her take in skimpy outfits holding nice tools. That takes work man. Again how DARE YOU! I need to study this further and look at more photos just to be sure…
Haha awesome. I did say I did not have one problem with it. In fact I think every tool company needs to market this way
kornomaniac wrote:
Haha haha 😀 well not even a miss Makita here in belgium 😀
And metabo is quite known here. Its Milwaukee that you almost do not find in belgium. Altho they are gaining traction in the market 😀
It’s funny though how Milwaukee has tools outside the U.S. that they don’t sell here being a major American brand. The m18 miter saw for example. I figure they have a bigger better fuel one waiting in the wings for the U.S. but still they could have been selling it here for a while now. Outside of tool guys no one knows Metabo here. Bosch is known because they make all sorts of things. Milwaukee has an advantage entering any market though because they have one of the largest 18v ranges of tools and the largest 12v range. Together they cover so many tool nooks you can’t ignore them.
DarynH wrote:
Haha awesome. I did say I did not have one problem with it. In fact I think every tool company needs to market this way
Yeah it sucks in this PC world we may see that kind of marketing disappear though. When it does disappear who would give Miss Makita her skimpy outfits to wear and a nice tool to hold? Don’t answer that…
Because nothing promotes equality like sending the message thst your body is what makes you valuable … 😛
Metabo could be huge in the USA. The only problem is they have some of the worst marketing ever!! If I was Metabo I would try to get my tools in Lowes and offer aggressive promotions either lower prices or free bare tools and batteries or a combination of both. Lowes would love to grab some of the tool buying market from Home Depot. Hitachi is another brand that doesn’t market well either. Which is sad as Hitachi makes some decent tools.