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Hi Guys,
I’m new here, i would like to buy new(my first) saw. I’m looking ať Dewalt Dws 780.
And I have few questions.
1. Is this saw set out of the box dead on?
2. Have You any problems with this dewalt?
3. How its power/price/user friendly?
4. Is this saw greas value? How it s manufactured?
Please write some informations and thanks for your answers. And sorry, my english isnt good, iam from Czech Republic.
I got this deal during December and have used it a handful of times and love it mind U that I’m in no way a professional contractor just a hard core diy guy….mine was accurate right out the box the XPS system is awesome and the weight on it isn’t bad plus U can’t beat the free stand they give with it.
I’ve had this saw for a while and its my favorite go to saw. It’s dead on accurate, and contrary to some people the slides r perfect.
It was right at the top of my listing of saws. Good quality machine.
Oh! And welcome to the forum DB
welcome to the forum.
I have the 718 and the 780. the 780 is a way better saw.
no problems at all with it.
the dust collection is very good.
xps system is brilliant .I wouldn’t buy a saw with out it. there is no way for it to be off . lasers are terrible compared to the xps. exept outside on really sunny days. luckily in Ireland we don’t get many
Welcome! I’ve heard great things about that saw, one of the best for the money.. it should be good out of the box but there is no harm in making a few test cuts and verifying it’s accuracy before you jump right into a big project.
Dewalt Dws780 miter saw
1. Yes
2. No
3. Plenty of power. Maybe hard for first time miter saw user to figure out.
4. Worth the money.
Welcome to the forum.
I just picked one up tonight from HD so I’ll find out the answers to your questions in the near future. 🙂
welcome to TIA forum
check out this page and tell you something about ya:
http://professional-power-tool-guide.com/power-tool-forum/index.php?/forum/45-introduce-yourself/
there are a bunch of members who have that saw and they are all pleased with it.
you should definitely go for it.
when you buy it at homedepot, let them know that lowes has the same deal and you get 5% there with the lowes credit card – or even 10% with the lowes movers coupon which you can also buy on ebay.
HD should give you the same rebate if they want to keep you as a customer 😛
happy buying!!!
Thanks Guys,
I bought this saw bosch gta 2500w stand a I’m really happy with this setting.
It’s a great deal if you’re getting it with the stand, got mine last November and it was dead nuts accurate, I also bought a 100t Diablo blade and it cuts like butter, I have only done some trim work and a DIYer and no pro. The XPS system is great and is why I bought it as I didn’t want to deal with needing to adjust a laser.
HD currently has this with free stand deal going on now, just an FYI
I’m in the market for a new saw, being on youtube checking out all the top brands latest models. How is the slide on this for those who have used it? Dust collection isn’t a huge issue for me as I would only being it outdoors.
I use this saw for 3month and i have no issue with it.
This slides arent smooth like Festool Kapex or Bosch, but this saw is really heavy duty. Two weeks ago i saw Festool Kapex and this saw looks like toy and Bosch has much more plastic parts.
But Dewalt:
– terrible dust extraction, more weight
+ accuracy, power, settings ( depth, fence..), XPS, really heavy duty feel in your hands.
I don’t really see dust extraction as a negative, I hooked mine up to my shop vac and there was almost no dust in the room at all. The slide is a negative though (I hope mine breaks in and gets smoother) other then that I absolutely love the 780
I’ve had mine for a about 5-6 months and I love it! There a knob on the top that U can adjust, mine feels smooth and the bag does catch a lot of the dust for me though it does fill up really quick plus U can’t beat that XPS light best in the market
Try one of you upgrade the dust collection? I tried this with old piece of lamine and i had problem with rails, they dont fit in to end of rails.
Upgrade the dust collection? For me I have been mainly using it for framing at the moment so I haven’t spent much time caring about dust collection, but looking at the saw I could see that if this was used inside a customers house for finished work that it might be a problem.
A vacuum hooked up to the port works pretty darn good. I’ve cut in homes with no problem. Usually small stock like base and crown.
All real wood though. I don’t dare cut MDF trim in a customers home. EVER.
From my research the 780 is the best saw on the market but cost 599+tax. If you are looking for something a bitch cheaper and still very good try out the Hitachi C12RSH 15 Amp 12-Inch Sliding Compound Miter Saw with Laser. I saw a video from the tool guys on here a few weeks ago and they almost made me want to go buy one of these Hitachi miter saws so I can finally stop borrowing my neighbors. I am trying to hold out till after Christmas for the really good deals!
I think I’ll buy the 780 tomorrow, you think 599+tax is expensive. Cheapest I’ll get it in Ireland is €1000 with the de7023 stand
In Czech Republic i bought 780 with Bosch 2500 stand about 32.000 Kč + – 1.165 Eur, 1.333 USD. Tools are wery expensive. But 780 worth ewery korunu, dollar, euro. I hope this is saw for all life long.
Does anyone know if the guard link from the DWS 780 will work on the DWS 709? The one on the 709 is straight so if the wood if higher than 5 inches or so it hits it. I think the one from the 780 will work, but just looking for some thoughts.
I have noticed a big difference in the slides between type 1 or type 20. The parts diagram confirm a difference. Type 20 is made in Taiwan and type 1 in Mexico. I spoke with a dewalt technician and he confirmed that the type 20 has improved slides.
glass wrote:
I have noticed a big difference in the slides between type 1 or type 20. The parts diagram confirm a difference. Type 20 is made in Taiwan and type 1 in Mexico. I spoke with a dewalt technician and he confirmed that the type 20 has improved slides.
What exactly is different with the slides? Does it operate smoother? More stable with less flex? Why did they redesign the slides so soon after this saw was released for retail? It’s relatively a new product considering how long it’s been available.
The one I tried out had much smoother slides. Different parts on parts diagram and a confirmed change by a dewalt technician. Dewalt updates its tools with type changes quite often. I would imagine they updated because so many complained of sticky slides on the dws780 type 1. I find the slides on the type awful.
Guys like me who bought the type 1 DWS780 have a good reason to be mad as hell. We are the ones that complained about it and now we’re stuck with it. We can’t just go out and keep buying the newest updated tool that comes out every time they decide to make a change.
My problem with DeWalt is when they design a new tool they don’t field test it long enough to find out from professionals if there’s anything that needs to to be changed before it’s released to the public for retail. This isn’t the first saw DeWalt ever made, you would think they would know by now how to do it right the first time. The Lowe’s Kolbalt 12″ dual bevel sliding miter saw puts DeWalts DWS780 to shame when it comes to smoothness.
DeWalt’s to much in a hurry to make money and they flood the market with it and in the mean time are redesigning an updated version. If I could tell the first time I ever operated a slide saw that it didn’t feel as smooth as it should how the hell could something like this get by their design and quality control team. Every type 1 DWS780 saw uses the same parts so everyone of them is going to feel about the same. What do they have one person testing them or do they even test them? What they should do is update anyone’s saw that’s not happy with it. I’m sure it doesn’t bother everyone who owns one.
One thing I’ve finally realized, when a deal seems to good to be true then I better think twice about it. Every time Home Depot or Lowe’s has a special deal there’s a reason for it. It’s usually because they not going to carry it anymore or it’s being replaced with a different model and their trying to get rid of their old style inventory This has happened with just about every so called good deal I ever got from these places.
The saw was a promotional special with a free stand. Somebody higher up knew all about the change I can guarantee it. It happened with the Verander decking we bought, they stopped carrying it right after we bought it on sale. So we had to special order extra boards from the manufacture and got slammed with a huge price hike. It happened with the Ducane gas Grill, Arians snow blower, DeWalt 12v drill.etc. the next thing will be a fix for the loose battery fit on the 20V Brushless drill. Aaaaaarrrgh!!!!!
I’ve been doing some research into this improved type 20 and according to the parts diagram very few parts are different than the type 1. It seems it’s mainly one slide rail. I’m going to contact a DeWalt Technician and find out if the type 1 can be updated with the type 20 parts. I would guess that it could, It would be nice if DeWalt at least sold the parts as a upgrade kit seeing how they aren’t going to recall any of the type 1.
During some searching I came across reviews about the slide on the DWS780,
(The linear bearings on the slide. Mine was nearly impossible to make a slide cut with the blade down in the cut position. When I first used it almost every cut I made was a chop (casing some windows, crown on some cabinets). Then I got into a set of stairs where I was cutting, or trying to cut, skirt boards. Holy crap. I thought something was wrong with my blade but when I made the cutting motion with no material on the saw it was the same deal. The saw apparently only has bearings on the right hand tube (I have read this). When you lower the head it torgues the crap out of the slides making it difficult to slide.)
Another one,
(When you lower the blade and try to cut skirt boards, the motion is so jerky – the bearings are grabbing because they are being torqued off to one side. The light is great, but the saw is just unusable because of the linear slide bearing on one side. In fact I would go so far as to say it is dangerous.)
This certainly makes sense because the parts illustration shows one slide having a different part number and different in appearance.
These are the differences between type 1 and type 20
Type 1
170 N395710 LINEAR BEARING KIT
170 N084698SV SUPPORT HOUSING
Type 20
332 N104494 Rail
170 N157708 SUPPORT HOUSING
If the saw isn’t operating correctly because of a design flaw why wouldn’t this be a warrantee issue if it’s still under warrantee? Would they replace the parts with the same part numbers or would they use the newer updated parts so that the problem is corrected?
roadhog96 wrote:
I’ve been doing some research into this improved type 20 and according to the parts diagram very few parts are different than the type 1. It seems it’s mainly one slide rail. I’m going to contact a DeWalt Technician and find out if the type 1 can be updated with the type 20 parts. I would guess that it could, It would be nice if DeWalt at least sold the parts as a upgrade kit seeing how they aren’t going to recall any of the type 1.
During some searching I came across reviews about the slide on the DWS780,
(The linear bearings on the slide. Mine was nearly impossible to make a slide cut with the blade down in the cut position. When I first used it almost every cut I made was a chop (casing some windows, crown on some cabinets). Then I got into a set of stairs where I was cutting, or trying to cut, skirt boards. Holy crap. I thought something was wrong with my blade but when I made the cutting motion with no material on the saw it was the same deal. The saw apparently only has bearings on the right hand tube (I have read this). When you lower the head it torgues the crap out of the slides making it difficult to slide.)
Another one,
(When you lower the blade and try to cut skirt boards, the motion is so jerky – the bearings are grabbing because they are being torqued off to one side. The light is great, but the saw is just unusable because of the linear slide bearing on one side. In fact I would go so far as to say it is dangerous.)
This certainly makes sense because the parts illustration shows one slide having a different part number and different in appearance.
These are the differences between type 1 and type 20
Type 1
170 N395710 LINEAR BEARING KIT
170 N084698SV SUPPORT HOUSING
Type 20
332 N104494 Rail
170 N157708 SUPPORT HOUSING
If the saw isn’t operating correctly because of a design flaw why wouldn’t this be a warrantee issue if it’s still under warrantee? Would they replace the parts with the same part numbers or would they use the newer updated parts so that the problem is corrected?
how do I tell what type my saw is. I only purchased 3 weeks back. Slide seems fine though but just curious to know the type
I have (maybe) type 1, but yeaterday i worked all day long with this saw and i had no issue with this saw. Everithing worked fine. I cuted 120mmx120mm solid wood frames. So I dont know where is the problem.
chop cuts, essentally 5″ x 5″
Turner85 wrote:
how do I tell what type my saw is. I only purchased 3 weeks back. Slide seems fine though but just curious to know the type
Look on the motor housing. There is a tag on there with the type. Yours is probably new stock type 20.
Mine was made in Italy and Mexico.
When was the type 20 put into production? I got mine last November time frame with the free stand and it’s a type 20
DzordanoBruno wrote:
I have (maybe) type 1, but yeaterday i worked all day long with this saw and i had no issue with this saw. Everithing worked fine. I cuted 120mmx120mm solid wood frames. So I dont know where is the problem.
It bothers some people were others don’t even notice it. If you were to compare the slide action smoothness to another brand you would admediately notice the difference. The type one doesn’t glide real smooth like other saws I’ve tried after the fact. If other manufactures can make a slide that glides real smooth then why can’t DeWalt? Next time your in Lowes check out the Kobalt 12″ slide and then try the DeWalt DWS780 it should be in the same area and you’ll know what I’m talking about. The DeWalt feels like your pulling or pushing the rails through a bushing rather through ball bearings. Way to much resistance. DeWalt knows there’s a problem that’s why they changed it. It really don’t make sense to me why you wouldn’t want to put bearings on both slides in the first place, they both have to move. So it cost a little more to do it but you wouldn’t have any complaints and would probably make it the best saw out there. Anything to save a buck.
Yes, I tried Bosch saw and slieds action was better, but feel of saw was worse.
Nothing is perfect – Kapex, Dewalt, Bosch every manufacture has problems.
Dws is really good saw => use it and saw make You happier :))
Turner85 wrote:
how do I tell what type my saw is. I only purchased 3 weeks back. Slide seems fine though but just curious to know the type
They have a label with the information on the tool itself. It should show the model number and than below that you will see (type **)
I just finished installing 1200 sq. ft. of 5″ wide Pergo plank flooring and used the sliding head quite a bit on a brand new DWS780. As others have remarked, it can be a little sticky to get going when the slide is extended. I did notice that if I grip the handle as far to the left as possible, keeping the downward force close to the center line between the slide rods, starting the cut is easier and the head slides more smoothly. I think that when downward pressure is exerted toward the right side of the handle it twists the rods and binds up the slide mechanism. This is a pretty good argument for vertical handles placed as close to the center line of the slides as possible, but not something the owner of one of these saws can change. you can buy Dewalt DWS779 both Dewalt DWS779 and DWS780 having same features, the only different feature it has is the LED light. Read this for more difference
https://finalscope.com/dewalt-dws779-vs-dws780-miter-saws/