termite damage

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madman_usMember since Sep 2014

i started stripping down the walls in my garage ( OSB sheets, peg boards, old workbenches, drywalls)

that i can run more outlets, update electric etc.

then i found an old termite next with severe damage.

my plan was to switch out the existing door (28″ door ) to a bigger 32″ steel door.

to do that i need to get a bigger R/O; so i have to move the king studs, trim studs and the header to get the bigger opening.

while doing that i can switch out the horizontal “studs” (forgot the name for those).

and maybe more, i will see what else is damaged.

they are so eaten down, it feels like hard paper mesh.

and the termite poop or left overs, man that has a special odor…

 

oh poor quality on those pictures – i should switch back to 10m instead of 1m for direct upload via phone for the forum.

 

UPDATE – NEW PICTURES – BETTE QUALITY:

 

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thats the backside from the door in the inside of the house:

 

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BigmikezMember since Jun 2013

Damn that sucks MM how long have u been at your current house? I was really worried about termites when we were buying the house were in now luckily the bank had the house bombed b4 we moved in, I’m pretty sure they do that for all house when for sale but those suckers can come back at any time man and it’s not easy to get rid of them.

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

we bought the house about 1 year ago and the inspector didnt see that, there was actually a sign at the door jamb of termite damage but he didnt see it. they got rid of those termites in 2013 – they was a termite inspection or something, a sign was in the garage when he was there. i hope they dont come back after i gonna switch out all the studs

chadlanthierMember since Mar 2013

Dam project just got harder or longer. That sucks, those little basterds. Keep us posted with some updated pics.

BK13Member since Nov 2013

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Oh, man, that blows. Are you going to have to replace the beam?

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

ya BK thats the plan. i gonna open more drywall on that side too see how far the damage goes and then rip out the studs.

reframe everything – install a new bigger door.

at least i have now a reason to buy a new tool – a recip saw haha 😛

DR99Member since Nov 2012

Yea some of those top pates are shot.. Just vacuum like crap them fucking things are nasty!!

regopitMember since Feb 2013

Is this a stand alone garage or is it attached to your house?

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

its attached to my house.

that door goes into the house.

chadlanthierMember since Mar 2013

Ouch

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

ok i just updated the pictures to a better quality – 1mega pixel sucks lol

regopitMember since Feb 2013

Do you have much of a load above?

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

i dont even think this section is load-bearing, but when i take it out, i still gonna support it – “just in case”

i just take out a 6′ section out of a 23′ or so wall

regopitMember since Feb 2013

Once you have everything open and supported take an scratch awl  or anything with a point and check everything. those little bastards will eat the center out and leave the outside looking like nothing is wrong

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

i will do that thanks – i just hope that they didnt go further up into the attict.

i might take out that section off that 2×12 which is nail on the drywall.

 

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DR99Member since Nov 2012

Thank god termites are not a big thing in Michigan. Carpenter ant’s I have seen I demolished this poorly build addition after a friend flooded and carpenter ants were falling all over you. One of the nastiest things ever. The diyer homegammed it and didn’t add enough pitch to the roof it was practically flat and it was added between a house and garage as a family room/mudroom. Dehydrated birds and mice or just bones is the norm in really old stuff.

comp56Member since Sep 2014

build with teak they don’t like teak…..

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

so i took down the rest of the drywall on that wall and how it looks like nothing more is really damaged.

the lil bastards just ate the paper on the back of the drywalls but left the studs untouched – ok here and there a few bites but nothing severe.

i have to clean up the termite poop and then i can start replacing the right side where the door is.

maybe gonna remove that 2×12 to check for damage behind that.

oh and what i found when i removed the drywalls – a hot wire left in a metal box, nobody was missing that one when they put the drywalls right over it.

 

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madman_usMember since Sep 2014

after cleaning up the rest of the drywalls i started to vacuum the termite poop.

i took of some insulation to clean behind that too – all the sudden is saw some of those fu**ers running around.

just a handful of them but they didnt survive my vacuum haha. i stopped my vacuum and called the termite guy.

he will come out on monday and will check everything.

man im soooo happy that i started the garage project – otherwise i would never noticed that those little bastards are still alive and active.

BigmikezMember since Jun 2013

Wow man that sucks!! But like U said u would’ve never known hopefully the termite guy can take care of those lil shits for good.

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

ya i prolly have to take out the whole insulation on that wall that he can spray or do something against them

BigmikezMember since Jun 2013

Just be careful I have a buddy who’s worked for Terminix over 20yrs and he tells me that those damn things are harder to kill then just spraying and a lot companies won’t tell u that but they sure as hell will charge for it.

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

ya i can imagine that…dont even wanna know if they might be further in the walls towards the inside of the house

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

ok the exterminator was here today.

first at all he said that those fu**ers are underneath the slab and just come up thru a crack or so in the wall and collect food up in the walls and go back in the nest to feed the others.

 

he has to drill holes in the foundation every 16″ with a 1″ drill bit and pump termidor in those holes.

a long that wall in the garage where i found them + behind the wall in the living room; pulling up the carpet and drill holes too.

that will cost around $700.

 

at the end he was not 100% sure about the crack because i opened that wall and he couldnt see anything where they come from.

so he was kinda confused and he said he will come back tmw with another co-worker to get a different opinion.

 

but actually i watched some youtube before that guy came out and i informed myself.

that process with drilling and pumping in the termidor stuff, man i can do that myself.

that termidor stuff cost about $100 a bottle. for that money i gonna buy my own SDS drill and start drilling those holes 😛

NEW tool im coming haha.

 

na ok i gonna wait until tmw what he gonna come up with.

 

ill keep ya all posted 

rfwjrMember since Jul 2014

That is the active you want to use Fipronil (the active in Termidor) and you should not have any ant problems after they treat either.

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

ya i will prolly use the termidor SC what you can buy everywhere and what they gonna use too.

i will drill holes in foundation of the garage where i found the actual damage and some active ones plus around the house.

 

ya fipronil is in the termidor. ants is actually not a big deal here 😛

rfwjrMember since Jul 2014

You can buy a product called Taurus SC (Fipronil) on Amazon it is cheaper than Termidor.

comp56Member since Sep 2014

bloody hell you better be chargin rent to those buggers…….eatin ya out of house and home…..

rfwjrMember since Jul 2014

madman_us wrote:

yeah i saw that product too.

 

just found a newer product – its called Termidor HE – you need less water and its more efficient.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqKCeGlglZc#t=187

Madman, I know the guy who did this video.  Do you want me to call him and see if the Termidor HE is worth the extra money.  If I remember it is almost twice the price.

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

that would be amazing if you gonna do that.

if im correct – ya twice the money but you need less solution on 10 linear feet and its a bigger bottle.

 

Termidor HE – 79oz bottle for around $192 but it gonna cover around 250 linear feet

(video says it goes deeper in the ground and less digging / drilling)

2 finished gallon per 10 linear feet

 

Termidor SC – 20oz bottle for around $60 and it cover 60 linear feet

(one video on youtube said you need 3-4 bottles for one house)

4 finished gallon on 10 linear feet

rfwjrMember since Jul 2014

How many linear feet do you have to treat.

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

i have no clue where exactly they are, just in case i go around the hole house + drilling holes where the big damage is.

1700 sq ft house.

rfwjrMember since Jul 2014

He said you save yourself extra digging on the trenches and less water to haul.  But you still end up with a .06% application on either product.  You pay more for the HE product but save yourself some labor. 

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

thats weird – because when you do easy math it comes up different.

 

Termidor HE , 79 oz bottle , 240-250 linear feet and cost $192

drilling every 18 inches, 2 gallon per 10 linear feet

 

Coverage Area:

Termidor HE will make 100 gallons allowing for 2,000 square feet of pre-treat termite control or 240 linear feet of application around the home.

 

Termidor SC , 20 oz bottle , 60 linear feet and cost $57 ( so to cover 240 lin feet you need 4 bottles; 4x$57= $228 )

drilling every 12 inches, 4 gallon per 10 linear feet

 

Coverage Area:

Termidor SC 78oz will treat 800 square feet when preforming a pre-construction treatment. 

Termidor SC 78oz will treat 320 linear feet when preforming a post-construction termite trenching treatment.

Termidor SC 20oz will treat 1280 linear feet when applied as a general pest perimeter spray around a structure.

 

 

oh hold on – i didnt see that you can buy Termidor SC in a 78 oz bottle haha – man that option was tiny.

so that bottle cost $180

 

so the difference is $12 but saves you drilling, trenching and hauling water, right…

 

 

man for that money i save; i can definitely buy a SDS drill – sweeeet 

rfwjrMember since Jul 2014

I think he was comparing HE to buying a Taurus 78 oz for $105.00.  He sells Termidor HE, Termidor SC, and Taurus SC.

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

ya then its way cheaper. but whats the difference between taurus sc and termidor sc ?

both contain 9.1% fipronil  

rfwjrMember since Jul 2014

They are the same 9.1%.  Taurus is the generic of Termidor.

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

you definitely help me to make the right decision. thanks man.

ok so the exterminator came buy again with another guy and they located where they coming up. 

right in that corner where the main damage is.

so he said he would drill along the wall in the backyard in the walkway for about $700.

 

i gonna buy the taurus sc 78oz bottle and DIY that project. because it includes a free SDS drill 😀

BigmikezMember since Jun 2013

kill those bastards and get a new tool…niice!

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

oh well – the exterminator just called and went $50 down onthe price haha

BigmikezMember since Jun 2013

Askem if he will do it as a side job and not for his company that’s what my friend does to make some extra money

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

it was the owner who came by 😛

i will do it myself – its easy… with the money i save – ill buy a SDS rotary hammer drill if i get the ok from my wife

chadlanthierMember since Mar 2013

Smart thinking madman, always check with foreman first.

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

ya or we get in trouble haha

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