NiCd Dead?

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NathanMember since Jun 2009

I have two xrp nicd batteries (18 volt).  I have been expieriencing shortened run times.  Fresh of the charger, they read 19.5-20.5 volts.    They work fair right off the charger (after approx. 45 minutes charging)  I decided to use the “auto tune-up cycle” and left them on the charger for over eight hours straight.  When I took them off they read18.5v and 16.8 volts!  I then went to use them and could not drill a 3/4 hole (irwin speedbor) in  a piece of poplar!  Basically there is no storage time, must be fresh of the charger to use them, and then only moderate performance.  My drill is a dc987. Also, the flex neck flashlight only runs about an hour and a half, around half of the rate 3 hours.  Whats up?

kanxrusMember since Jan 2009

I would check the Date Code on the battery and see if it’s still under warranty. 2yrs on the Yellow tops, and 1 on the black tops. Take it into your nearest service center and have it checked out.

NathanMember since Jun 2009

According to the battery code the batteries were made in 2006.  I think I’ve used them for three years though, so they are out of warranty. They are the yellow tops.

StevenMember since Nov 2009

Thats 4 years old!  They usually die anytime after 3 years for me, and I always leave them on the yellow charger.  I had 2 18V XRP yellow tops I left at home (never took to the job site) that were dated in early 2007 and I used them every other weekend around the house, they died the end of last year.  I took them to the local Dewalt store, they have a trade in (battery recycling program) of $10 per your used/old battery when you buy a new battery package (no matter if its 1 or 2 batteries in the new package).  The Dewalt store had a special 2 pack of XRP 18V for $109.  So I bought 2 of the 2 packs and got $20 off for the old batteries.

kanxrusMember since Jan 2009

It’s all about how you maintain your batteries. I’ve still got 2005 batteries running strong.

sbebenelliMember since Feb 2010

JC wrote:

2yrs on the Yellow tops, and 1 on the black tops.

What’s the difference between yellow and black tops?

kanxrusMember since Jan 2009

Ah rating. Current batteries in the 18v category go as follows.

Black top’s

Compact DC9181 Li-Ion – 1.1Ah

Compact DC9099 NiCd – 1.7Ah

Yellow Top’s

XRP DC9180 Li-Ion – 2.2Ah

XRP DC9096 NiCd – 2.4Ah

StevenMember since Nov 2009

Isnt there 2 different versions of the black top ni-cads?  Like a regular/standard DC9099 and then a compact DC9099?  It seems like the newer version is a little shorter then the older one.  Actually I think only the yellow tops are called XRPs (not 100% sure).

kanxrusMember since Jan 2009

I believe their are a few older black tops. Standard, XR, XR+… then they went to XRP yellow tops.

StevenMember since Nov 2009

Just found out- the DC9098 is the newer compact version of the older standard DC9099.  I wonder what the difference between the 2 are as far as Ah, they are both 18v.

kanxrusMember since Jan 2009

DC9181 – 1.1Ah

DW9046, DW9048, DW9050, DW9051, DC9098 – 1.2Ah

DW9057, DW9062, DW9072, DW9074, DW9094, DW9098 – 1.3Ah

DC9094, DC9099, DW9061, DW9071, DW9091, DW9095, DW9099, DW0240 – 1.7Ah

DW0242 – 2.0Ah

DC9180 – 2.2Ah

DC9071, DC9091, DC9096, DC9360, DW9096, DC9280, DC9180, DC9144 – 2.4Ah

dewalt23293Member since Apr 2009

i have Benn using the same yellow tops for 5 years now and still running, i made this video a while back on reconditioning battery’s check it out, works 99.9% of the time, can save a lot of money i proved it in the video watch!!!!

BlackHawk1776Member since Nov 2010

I found this company advertising on eBay, for $50 they’ll ship you a 9096 basic battery, and for $80 plus shipping 1 way, they’ll rebuild your battery with 3300MAH cells.  I haven’t tried them but I’m not inclined to try my own repair of the NiCad batteries.  I’m sure there are a few others out there not so inclined to take that route so maybe this will be interesting.  Though, I know there are a lot of people who would enjoy the low cost fix mentioned above.

http://www.voltmanbatteries.com/servlet/StoreFront

kanxrusMember since Jan 2009

They used to be a advertiser on this site. They are one of the better battery rebuild companies out there.

StevenMember since Nov 2009

Just go to Home Depot between Thanksgiving & Christmas.  Every year at the same time they usually have the 2-pack of 18-volt yellow top XRP NiCd batteries (DC9096-2) for around $120 a pack.  This way, you know you are getting a good new factory product.

Gatorb8881393434512Member since Jun 2010

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