The Big Move

crazyandyMember since Feb 2013

I had a ridgid set and loved it but I do love my cordless milwaukee stuff more. I am hardcore with all of my ridgid nailers and sanders and everything like that though!

firefighter4187Member since Mar 2013

I really like the 12v impact from ridgid from tia, the runtime is crazy!

Harold WrayMember since Jun 2013

That rigid 12v impact is sweet.  Looks like it can take a beating and just keep on working.  I liked the light(s) on it also. Really bright on the video they had.  

JethMember since Jun 2013

I have the jobmax and the batt just die on me , just use 3 times 🙁 so i got the bosch 12v oscilating tool cose i’ve ordered there 12v metal shear and Milwaukee dont have one ! But the tool work realy well

DR99Member since Nov 2012

Yea the batteries seem like the weak point on Ridgid tools you should be able to get them to warranty it though

firefighter4187Member since Mar 2013

Mine is running strong, but im going to put her to the test, from 9-11 tomorrow we will be runnin 3in deck screws, should be very interesting.

Conductor562Member since Nov 2011

ChaseRogers wrote:

Mine is running strong, but im going to put her to the test, from 9-11 tomorrow we will be runnin 3in deck screws, should be very interesting.

I’m anxious to hear how it goes as well

firefighter4187Member since Mar 2013

Im bringing my DeWalt impact so in case something blows, I wont look like a complete idiot..

Conductor562Member since Nov 2011

I’ve often found myself squeezing by on plan B…..or E

firefighter4187Member since Mar 2013

Conductor562 wrote:

I’ve often found myself squeezing by on plan B…..or E

Haha I know what you mean!

Harold WrayMember since Jun 2013

Conductor562 wrote:

I’ve often found myself squeezing by on plan B…..or E

Funny! What, just plan E. I’m constantly on plan Z. Just kidding I usually don’t have a plan. 🙂

Conductor562Member since Nov 2011

I’m a “wing and a prayer” type of guy too Harold

firefighter4187Member since Mar 2013

Surprisingly the Ridgid 12v Impact did very well, The screws were some special 3in with a square head and special threads, I was driving them through 1 1/4 composite decking into 2×6’s, On a fully charged battery I got 65 screws give or take….now heres some live and late breaking footage…………..

 

http://youtu.be/gG3s17_-Kns

Conductor562Member since Nov 2011

Those “special square drive screws” have quite a history and had it not been for Henry Ford, you would likely never have heard of the phillips screw. They are called Robertson screws after the inventor and while they are still referred to as such in their native Canada, most US manufacturers refer to them as “square recess” to get around trademark laws. In the early days of production assembly, Henry Ford fell in love with the Robertson screws and at one time Model T’s used over 300 of them. As time went on he pressured Robertson to license him the right to produce his own Roberson screws in his ever going quest to cut out the middle man (google and read up on “Fordlandia” for a fine example of how this philosophy backfired). Robertson had already went bankrupt once and spent a fortune buying back the rights to his own invention, so he refused to license Ford to manufacture the screws. This pissed Ford off and citing “unreliable supply” he dropped Robertson, adopted the Phillips head screw, and the rest is history. Phillips screws were invented by a man name Phillips who never manufactured his own screws. He simply licensed others to make the design he patented and lived off the license fees. Robertson however, manufactured his own and knew there was far more money in retailing them. In other words, Phillips wanted people to make his screws while Robertson wanted people to buy his. Robertson’s are superior to phillips in every possible way. They are popular with woodworkers for they’re torque tolerance and their ability to lock on to the driver, but aside from that, they are largely ignored outside of Canada. It’s just on of a long list of superior inventions shelved for shitty reasons. 

 

That being said, Canadiens will tell you that Robertson drives and “square recess” are different. They are technically right. Robertsons have a slightly different taper that they will tell you is what allows them to lock on to the driver. That part is kinda iffy. The taper was to make them easier to cold forge with turn of the century technology and while it does aid in the locking ability (only slightly) that wasn’t the reason for it at all. 

DR99Member since Nov 2012

Yea, vertical integration never quite worked out like Henry Ford wanted it to. It’s pretty ironic now how little of the car is made by the actual car company now they just make the body panels, engine, and transmission for the most part.

Conductor562Member since Nov 2011

DR99 wrote:

Yea, vertical integration never quite worked out like Henry Ford want it to. It’s pretty ironic now how little of the car is made by the actual car company now they just make the body panels, engine, and transmission for the most part.

 

Very true DR99. If you aren’t familiar with Fordlandia, read up on it. It was an attempt to establish a huge rubber farming community in South America. He tried to Americanize a bunch of villagers and it blew up in his face and cost him millions.  

Harold WrayMember since Jun 2013

Wow!!! What a great education! Thank you Conductor! Love it! I would love to license anything. Can always make more on the next idea. Its war out there.

Conductor562Member since Nov 2011

lol, thanks Harold. When useless knowlege and idle time meet 😆

firefighter4187Member since Mar 2013

Thanks for the info conductor!! How many screws do you think your M12 could have done?

Conductor562Member since Nov 2011

ChaseRogers wrote:

Thanks for the info conductor!! How many screws do you think your M12 could have done?

No idea really. Never really tested to find out.

Joe MMember since Apr 2013

I was driving 6 4 in. GRK R4’s (no. 10) (GRK makes the best fastener, IMO) through a 2 x 4 into a 4 x 4 with my M12 and the overload protection kicked on twice for two of the screws. There are some jobs that a 18v are better for, but the M12 does most stuff a DYI would need it for.

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