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I was at my local home depot this weekend and the Dewalt 20v max 7.25 inch miter was on clearance for 349.
Does anybody know if a brushless model or upgrade dual bevel is coming??
Brushless is coming.
the existing 20v mitre works fine…brushless is better ,but I don’t think necessary..slap a 6ah or higher and get all day use,,, ,now if the new mitre will be a double bevel …I’d wait for that……….I have the 20v max one and like it..(not love it) ..needs double bevel…..
…. …. ….. i have corded 10″ and 12″ …im holding out for a Dewalt 10″ cordless….the 7 1/4 can’t cut azek deck rails I use a lot…
If it’s worth bringing out the miter saw in my opinion it’s worth bringing out the big boy and the 790 w/stand is unmatched.
I disagree. The 790 and stand is a big beast. Quick job cutting 2×6 I’d rather have a smaller saw.
I want the XR 7.25″ and I would enjoy a fixed head 10″ 60v Max FlexVolt.
349? That price is a joke should be able to find it about 250
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349 was with 4 amp hr battery and charger
so if I’m cordless I want the lightest most efficient tool to do the job….the 20v 7.25 will cut most of your trim needs and when the 10″ comes that will…
The 12″ is great but a beast…
timing??
Don’t know when,,, I’m not an inside guy….I’m an ..outside guy…literally..lol
Yep @Framer joe my 790 is my favorite tool but it’s massive lol. 7.25″ slider doesn’t do much more than what, a 2×8? Sometimes the lightest tool that will do the job is full-size lol.
The 20v 7.25″ slider can cut a 2×10, just tilt the board up to finish the cut.
I have no idea when the 20 volt brushless update is coming. I have heard absolutely nothing. I do know that 10″ FlexVolt saws are coming.
Nice! Can’t wait for a 10″ fixed head to compliment my 12″ slider!
I dont see a need for a 10 in but what do I know. It’s only 2 less inches right?
The 12″ is 40% more blade surface area (off the top of my head), which means a 10″ has less deflection, takes less energy to turn, and are cheaper blades. So I do see the need. It’s a glaring hole in their lineup. 78.5 sq inch surface area vs 113.
JakeDewalt wrote:
19 hours ago, JakeDewalt said:If it’s worth bringing out the miter saw in my opinion it’s worth bringing out the big boy and the 790 w/stand is unmatched.
If all you are doing is a little trim work, the 780 or 790 is overkill. 30 pounds versus 56 pounds on the saws’ weights. Throw in just the sheer bulk of the saws and I would much rather drag the DCS361 or it’s future replacement from room to room than the DHS790. You can’t do massive crown with the little saw, but it isn’t used all that much, unless it is just in my area that it is not that popular. It can cross cut 8 inches so it should be able to handle most baseboards too. That is why it is a happy compromise for trim work to me.
Agreed with @Grumpy MSG, crown in my area is basically nonexistent. My 790 will cut 2×12 etc. far more than monster crown, and for most trim a 7.25 is perfect. Plus; the blade has less deflection.
Jronman wrote:
10 hours ago, Jronman said:I dont see a need for a 10 in but what do I know. It’s only 2 less inches right?
That’s what she said.
Jronman wrote:
I dont see a need for a 10 in but what do I know. It’s only 2 less inches right?
Portability, costs, 12″ is overkill for a lot of guys, how many times do we max a 12″ out?
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Just hope they make the 10″ cordless mitre light weight, ..somewhere between the new Ryobi 10″ and Milwaukee 10″
Framer joe wrote:
1 hour ago, Framer joe said:Just hope they make the 10″ cordless mitre light weight, ..somewhere between the new Ryobi 10″ and Milwaukee 10″
One would hope they would shoot for portability
Well I use the 60v or 20v circular saw on any framing. I never cut 2x material on the miter saw except for Fascia, casings, etc
Finish work I break out the 790 to a central ideal location. And cut Door Casings, Baseboard, Crown Moulding, Chair etc all on that one saw. Sometimes I may not need the capacity with smaller material
But I do need the Dual Miter and Dual Bevel.
Yea hopefully on the next versions of everyone’s saws they find a way to invert the motor so we can have cordless dual bevel.
Isn’t the 790 is dual bevel?
Jronman wrote:
Just now, Jronman said:Isn’t the 790 is dual bevel?
Sure enough is!
Jronman wrote:
20 minutes ago, Jronman said:Isn’t the 790 is dual bevel?
I was referring to either a 7 1/4″ or 10″.
ah ok
Hugh Jass wrote:
3 hours ago, Hugh Jass said:
I was referring to either a 7 1/4″ or 10″.
DeWALT has traditionally used a belt drive to put the motor up and out of the way for dual bevel tilting. Some other brands have use an angle motor gearbox/ drive or even a hypoid/ worm drive to accomplish the same thing.
Grumpy MSG wrote:
6 hours ago, Grumpy MSG said:DeWALT has traditionally used a belt drive to put the motor up and out of the way for dual bevel tilting. Some other brands have use an angle motor gearbox/ drive or even a hypoid/ worm drive to accomplish the same thing.
But for whatever reason not in cordless form factor. I’m guessing that they can’t get both enough RPM and enough torque for good performance on anything less than 120v, having to pick one or the other.
Hmmm…..I wonder if Dewalt won’t find a better design then the other 3 / 10″ mitres
Anybody confirm what is coming?
I wonder if the next step for the 7 1/4in miter is flexvolt or just brushless?
Why would a 7.25″ mitre need to be FlexVolt?
Bremon wrote:
26 minutes ago, Bremon said:Why would a 7.25″ mitre need to be FlexVolt?
I’m not sure but it would make sense. Parts from the flex circ saw could be shared since they run the same size blade.
They have a brushless 7.25″ 20v Max circ to rip parts off of now and a larger user base in that system to sell to though.
Hey…did you see the new Makita 10″ brushless duel battery mitre saw? Looks really nice I like the vertical rails and knob front to change bevel….
Any update on this? The current 20v 7 1/4 is lacking in run time and power compared to the Ridgid brushless 7 1/4, even using the 6 ah Flexvolt battery.
Jpgwoodworking wrote:
On 1/7/2018 at 3:39 PM, Jpgwoodworking said:Any update on this? The current 20v 7 1/4 is lacking in run time and power compared to the Ridgid brushless 7 1/4, even using the 6 ah Flexvolt battery.
I’m having trouble believing this
Video Proof?
Perhaps he is cutting something really hard as that little 7 1/4 miter is really great for smaller projects where the flexvolt slider is not called for.
JakeDewalt wrote:
15 hours ago, JakeDewalt said:I’m having trouble believing this
Video Proof?
Believe what you want, but I own both saws and use them heavily. All I’ve stated is the basic advantage of brushless, more power and better run time. I don’t have time to do a run time test of them, but I may try to show the power difference.
The most common thing I use the little saws for is 1×2 – 1×6 radiata pine, but Rigid has cut 3,000 ft of laminate flooring, and a decent amount of pallet wood. The only time my 10” and 12” saws come out anymore are for 12” wide panels, 4×4’s, and crown.
The Ridgid with a 5 ah battery will run for 2 days of high volume cutting. This is job after job, with me and one of my guys both using the saw, so it is cutting almost constantly. It also has enough power that you really have to be trying to bog it down, and it will kick back like a corded saw rather than stalling if you bind a cut bad enough.
The Dewalt with a 6 ah Flexvolt pack ran a fully charged battery down to 1 bar while cutting 1×6’s for Shaker wainscoting in a 16×16 room. That was about 4 hours of cutting, by myself with no helper, so more down time between cuts. While it still has enough power to be useful, you do have to pay attention to not bogging it down accidentally, like the previous generation of cordless saws.
Here are a few pics of what I’ve done with the Ridgid:
FWIW, that miter saw, along with the 18 gaguge nailer, router, and fan are Ridgid’s only decent cordless tools. Their sander, grinder, radio, job max, and brushless impact/drill/circular saw are all horrible. They are the reason I picked up Dewalt in the first place, and I’ve been happy with them.
those projects look excellent @Jpgwoodworking you did a very nice job. I have generally not been a fan of pallet wood stuff but that pallet wood wall actually looks nice. It has a quality and professional feel to it that you typically don’t think about when you think of pallet wood projects.
Fantastic work dude. Beautiful stuff. I was curious how that Ridgid slider….wow!
Jpgwoodworking wrote:
3 hours ago, Jpgwoodworking said:
Believe what you want, but I own both saws and use them heavily. All I’ve stated is the basic advantage of brushless, more power and better run time. I don’t have time to do a run time test of them, but I may try to show the power difference.
The most common thing I use the little saws for is 1×2 – 1×6 radiata pine, but Rigid has cut 3,000 ft of laminate flooring, and a decent amount of pallet wood. The only time my 10” and 12” saws come out anymore are for 12” wide panels, 4×4’s, and crown.
The Ridgid with a 5 ah battery will run for 2 days of high volume cutting. This is job after job, with me and one of my guys both using the saw, so it is cutting almost constantly. It also has enough power that you really have to be trying to bog it down, and it will kick back like a corded saw rather than stalling if you bind a cut bad enough.
The Dewalt with a 6 ah Flexvolt pack ran a fully charged battery down to 1 bar while cutting 1×6’s for Shaker wainscoting in a 16×16 room. That was about 4 hours of cutting, by myself with no helper, so more down time between cuts. While it still has enough power to be useful, you do have to pay attention to not bogging it down accidentally, like the previous generation of cordless saws.
Here are a few pics of what I’ve done with the Ridgid:
FWIW, that miter saw, along with the 18 gaguge nailer, router, and fan are Ridgid’s only decent cordless tools. Their sander, grinder, radio, job max, and brushless impact/drill/circular saw are all horrible. They are the reason I picked up Dewalt in the first place, and I’ve been happy with them.
Sorry man I thought you were talking about the Dewalt Brushless 7 1/4 circular saw XR. I now realize you were talking about the 7 1/4 sliding miter saw sorry for the confusion
JakeDewalt wrote:
1 hour ago, JakeDewalt said:Sorry man I thought you were talking about the Dewalt Brushless 7 1/4 circular saw XR. I now realize you were talking about the 7 1/4 sliding miter saw sorry for the confusion
Yeah the Dewalt brushless circular saw eats the Ridgid for lunch!
Jronman wrote:
4 hours ago, Jronman said:those projects look excellent @Jpgwoodworking you did a very nice job. I have generally not been a fan of pallet wood stuff but that pallet wood wall actually looks nice. It has a quality and professional feel to it that you typically don’t think about when you think of pallet wood projects.
Thanks, I appreciate it. I’m not a big fan of the pallet wood projects myself, and generally try to talk the customer into going with T&G pine or something a little cleaner. For that project, they were adamant that they wanted the pallet wood and had already broken down and sanded their own pallets.