No more 20V specific batteries only 20V/60V combo?

So I forget where I read/heard this but is it true? Is Dewalt completely converting to the 20V/60V and no longer producing the smaller single voltage pack in anything above 5ah?

DPSElias wrote:

So I forget where I read/heard this but is it true? Is Dewalt completely converting to the 20V/60V and no longer producing the smaller single voltage pack in anything above 5ah?

That is interesting. I haven’t heard of this but….

RickyMcGrath wrote:

1 minute ago, RickyMcGrath said:

 

 

I don’t see why they would make an exclusively 20v pack with more than 5.0ah. It’s just double production.

 

 

I can understand that, but I was a little depressed when I saw the size difference didn’t realize how much bigger the 20V/60V batteries were.  

DPSElias wrote:

53 minutes ago, DPSElias said:

So I forget where I read/heard this but is it true? Is Dewalt completely converting to the 20V/60V and no longer producing the smaller single voltage pack in anything above 5ah?

There has been 6ah 20v batteries revealed. Not sure of release dates yet

Heard this rumor on Instagram seems to be malarkey with the release of the 20v 6.0 coming out


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I see(or rather hope to see) DeWalt transitioning to more 20700 cell in new packs, with the 6ah and the 9/3ah Flex using them, a 3ah slim pack becomes a real possibility. Wishful thinking?  Had a rather good discussion over on Stuart’s forum about this possibility.

The 6.0 pack comes out in January with the 9.0 FlexVolt packs so no need for FUD. 

Some web sites like Toolbarn and even Lowe’s is starting to list the DCB206-2 6Ah 2 pack of batteries (not in stock). So I am pretty sure they are going to happen.

Bremon wrote:

The 6.0 pack comes out in January with the 9.0 FlexVolt packs so no need for FUD. 

Grumpy MSG wrote:

1 hour ago, Grumpy MSG said:

Some web sites like Toolbarn and even Lowe’s is starting to list the DCB206-2 6Ah 2 pack of batteries (not in stock). So I am pretty sure they are going to happen.

Acme Tools also has the 20V 6.0 and the 60V 9.0 on there website.

I tend to use the compact 2.0 packs on most of my tools anyway. I do use the higher capacity batteries on bigger tools or higher draw tools like my SDS, recip saw, and big hammer drill (also when I eventually get the cordless miter) so I would rather get a 9.0 60V battery for those instead of the 6.0 20V. Just my $.02

JimboS1ice wrote:

12 minutes ago, JimboS1ice said:

Showed up in some lowes already


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Awesome! I sold my 4.0 and 6.0 packs so have been waiting for the 20700 packs lol all I have for the yellow stuff are compacts at the moment. Luckily the red side can cover the gaps. 

Ok, glad to see they are still increasing ah, but will we see a 9aH 20V only battery or will they stop at 6?

I’m sure everyone is aware but the 20/60V 9ah packs are not 9ah for 60V as they are 1/3 of this at 3ah. I feel Dewalt is playing a little marketing games for these batteries as some people unknowingly might think these are 6ah or 9ah for 60V tools when they are really 2ah and 3ah. From what I see with reviews the 60v Circular Saw is doing a great job with low amp hour batteries and think once they get 60V @ 9ah batteries these tools might really be incredible. 

I might buy into the red line to fill in some of these gaps.

It’s all about watt hours in the grand scheme of things and I would bet the farm that there won’t be a 20v Max only 9.0. FlexVolt 3.0/9.0 IS the 9.0. It’s the pack that will square up against Milwaukee’s HD9.0

Bremon wrote:

1 minute ago, Bremon said:

It’s all about watt hours in the grand scheme of things and I would bet the farm that there won’t be a 20v Max only 9.0. FlexVolt 3.0/9.0 IS the 9.0. It’s the pack that will square up against Milwaukee’s HD9.0

How is the size of the Milwuakee 9ah vs Flexvolt 9ah vs a “normal” 5ah battery?

M18 9.0 is taller and longer than the 5.0, same width though. FlexVolt 9.0 is, I believe, bigger in every direction than the M18 9.0. 

@Bremon Thanks, this is what I thought, as the from what I see they are huge!

Yeah they really are but if the power and runtime lives up to the hype it will be worth it. 

Bremon wrote:

22 hours ago, Bremon said:

The 6.0 pack comes out in January with the 9.0 FlexVolt packs so no need for FUD. 

FUD?

Bremon wrote:

1 hour ago, Bremon said:

M18 9.0 is taller and longer than the 5.0, same width though. FlexVolt 9.0 is, I believe, bigger in every direction than the M18 9.0. 

but it uses bigger cells than what Milwaukee uses.

Fear, uncertainty and doubt. 

And yes, the M18 uses 18650s and the new FlexVolt 20700. Should be a nice performance boost; not so much on existing stuff but as far as doors it opens up for FlexVolt where Milwaukee might not be able to keep up. 

I really can’t see dewalt making a 20V 9.0 AND a 3.0/9.0 60V when the 60V can be used with 20V tools. Thats two different batterries that Dewalt would have to manufacture. 6.0 is most likely the max 20V they will make IMO.

DaveJr. wrote:

I really can’t see dewalt making a 20V 9.0 AND a 3.0/9.0 60V when the 60V can be used with 20V tools. Thats two different batterries that Dewalt would have to manufacture. 6.0 is most likely the max 20V they will make IMO.

Currently DeWalt deems 2.5ah to be the largest capacity 18650 cell they will use, 20700 cells offer significant improvements, so much so that Panasonic/Sanyo and Elon Musk are investing BILLIONS in this form factor.  So its not science fiction to think that 4ah or even 5ah cells can become a very real thing.

JimboS1ice wrote:

39 minutes ago, JimboS1ice said:

Even though they made a 6.0 20v lol


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true. and then with the 20V 9.0 that would be 4 batteries in total 6.0 and 9.0 20V and the 2.0/6.0 and 3.0/9.0 60V.  They should probably just stick with the 60V options. They give 20V tools more power then with a 20V pack, right?

Yes and no. Less potential for voltage drop. 

As far as two different 9.0s go, they would both be 15 cell. The difference between FlexVolt 6.0 and XR 6.0 is the number of cells. Though the size differential isn’t as great as it could be because of the new big cells lol. 

I wait to see how this all plays out, those flexvolt packs are huge, but if a similar ah pack is the same size regardless if 20V or 20V/60V then I guess it really doesn’t matter.

Using 20700 cells is a 30% increase in size and weight compared to a 50% increase for another row of cells.  From that point of view the new 6.0 doesn’t make much sense.

So tools keep getting smaller and lighter and batteries are getting bigger and heavier. It’s all starting to get lopsided 

AnonymousJoe wrote:

26 minutes ago, AnonymousJoe said:

So tools keep getting smaller and lighter and batteries are getting bigger and heavier. It’s all starting to get lopsided 

This was kind of my thinking as well, but they have those compact batteries, I am just glad they are looking at run time.