Klein set

I was suppose to buy this on Tuesday when I was there but forgot. $50 at Home Depot, I own all these tools already some even triples or quads but it was a fair price. Did anyone buy this and what do you thing about the price? Combo kits are always less money then buying individually but sometimes the combo kits don’t sound like good deals. 

Looks like a reasonable deal. I haven’t heard great things about Klein screwdrivers in a while. Their lineman’s pliers though are top notch. I’m looking to get one of the flagship pairs with the comfy grip and fishtape puller etc. 

The lineman are nice and the stubby, i go thru about 2 Phillips a year, I don’t like their tick testers and I’m not sure why you’d need those scissors I’ve never seen anyone carry scissors on them. That’s just my experience

Saw the kit, I think it’s worth it, years past they had nicer kits though with a Klein pouch and more pliers


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Bremon wrote:

17 hours ago, Bremon said:

Looks like a reasonable deal. I haven’t heard great things about Klein screwdrivers in a while. Their lineman’s pliers though are top notch. I’m looking to get one of the flagship pairs with the comfy grip and fishtape puller etc. 

You mean these baby’s..lol These don’t have the tape puller though, their is a red handle vinyl pliers that I prefer over these though.   

AnonymousJoe wrote:

12 hours ago, AnonymousJoe said:

The lineman are nice and the stubby, i go thru about 2 Phillips a year, I don’t like their tick testers and I’m not sure why you’d need those scissors I’ve never seen anyone carry scissors on them. That’s just my experience

There testers do seem to give you a false reading just by bumping something, and I use there scissor’s for datacom work. Believe it or not scissor’s are a data mans number one tool. 

JimboS1ice wrote:

5 hours ago, JimboS1ice said:

Saw the kit, I think it’s worth it, years past they had nicer kits though with a Klein pouch and more pliers


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Would you know where I can find a picture of that kit somewhere? 

Justin Hernandez wrote:

9 minutes ago, Justin Hernandez said:

You mean these baby’s..lol These don’t have the tape puller though, their is a red handle vinyl pliers that I prefer over these though.   

Yep those are the ones!!

Justin Hernandez wrote:

Would you know where I can find a picture of that kit somewhere? 

I couldn’t find any Klein’s at the, 3 HDs I went to, I looked for that set. The scissors are awsone and sharp as razors. My dad always carried them in his belt pouch, he was a master contractor for phone company and is a master electrician. Those are very handy for snipping the little thin copper wires in phone boxes and they will cut a penny and no knick or dull, wish I still had a pair but I can get a pair from him. The linesman pliers are legendary and strippers are great but screwdrivers suck compared to the German offerings. They are made by pratt Reed and I’ve seen them with many brand names even ideal and I like that brand as well I’d say maybe a little better since they own sk. 

DerekTheToolGuy wrote:

2 hours ago, DerekTheToolGuy said:

I couldn’t find any Klein’s at the, 3 HDs I went to, I looked for that set. The scissors are awsone and sharp as razors. My dad always carried them in his belt pouch, he was a master contractor for phone company and is a master electrician. Those are very handy for snipping the little thin copper wires in phone boxes and they will cut a penny and no knick or dull, wish I still had a pair but I can get a pair from him. The linesman pliers are legendary and strippers are great but screwdrivers suck compared to the German offerings. They are made by pratt Reed and I’ve seen them with many brand names even ideal and I like that brand as well I’d say maybe a little better since they own sk. 

Yup scissors are a low voltage mans best friend. You can order it online as many as you want free shipping on $45 orders. Let me know if this works for you  

 http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-Electrician-s-Wiring-and-Testing-Kit-7-Piece-Z00019/207074262 

If shopping just for “snips” as Phone Guys call them …. I have always preferred the wiss. There is also a type with a fat red handle with a very pointy tip used for Kevlar that work well, maybe wiss, not sure of the brand…..Depends on your use.

Just an opinion from Foneguy the Phone Guy …?????

Foneguy wrote:

21 minutes ago, Foneguy said:

If shopping just for “snips” as Phone Guys call them …. I have always preferred the wiss. There is also a type with a fat red handle with a very pointy tip used for Kevlar that work well, maybe wiss, not sure of the brand…..Depends on your use.

Just an opinion from Foneguy the Phone Guy …?????

Yes snips 😛 I’m a little rusty on the datacom lingo..lol I use the Klein 21010-6 with the larger yellow handle. Nice to meet you Foneguy

DerekTheToolGuy wrote:

2 hours ago, DerekTheToolGuy said:

I couldn’t find any Klein’s at the, 3 HDs I went to, I looked for that set. The scissors are awsone and sharp as razors. My dad always carried them in his belt pouch, he was a master contractor for phone company and is a master electrician. Those are very handy for snipping the little thin copper wires in phone boxes and they will cut a penny and no knick or dull, wish I still had a pair but I can get a pair from him. The linesman pliers are legendary and strippers are great but screwdrivers suck compared to the German offerings. They are made by pratt Reed and I’ve seen them with many brand names even ideal and I like that brand as well I’d say maybe a little better since they own sk. 

The Klein drivers aren’t made by Pratt-Reed. PR makes a nearly identical version, but Klein still makes their own drivers. 

Klein kind lost me 3-4 years ago. They added more and more import stuff to their line and these days I’m not sure Klein offers a single tool in which a superior version can’t be found elsewhere. This was based partly on some post by a Klein employee who posted about how the current generation of ownership was more concerned with cutting corners to keep cost down than they were producing top quality tools. He also talked about a widespread fear within the company that many production jobs were about to be offshored. Sure enough, after his posts there was an uptick in posts about Klein tool defects. People went postal on Klein’s FB page and eventually Klein even released a statement explaining that they had not cut any American jobs, only new products, most of which were Data/Com, were produced overseas.

  Maybe I’m holding them to an unfair standard as I know companies like Klein have a harder time than ever trying to compete with import tools that are of much improved quality than in the past, but high quality, American tools, were Klein’s identity and as a tool junkie, I have no respect for a company that purveys reduced quality tools with the intention of surviving on their name.

Klein may well have cleaned up their act, and I may be a vocal minority, but only time will tell. I’ve gone through similar self imposed embargos with other brands such as Mac and Makita. Mac really stepped up and started producing tools that were top shelf in quality and not just in price. Makita improved their line as well, so I quit riding their ass last year. They’re still behind Milwaukee and Dewalt, and have plenty of room to improve, but for awhile their line got almost to the point of being laughable by comparison.

Of course we had plenty of drama over that too. We had some 19 year old, self proclaimed blogger/professional contractor/professional gamer/confirmed moron, who went around the internet slandering our opinion and professing the superiority of Makita based on nothing aside from his “extensive professional experience”. So goes the internet I suppose. 

Justin Hernandez wrote:

1 hour ago, Justin Hernandez said:

Yes snips 😛 I’m a little rusty on the datacom lingo..lol I use the Klein 21010-6 with the larger yellow handle. Nice to meet you Foneguy

No worries on the lingo….. its only been about 30 years for me calling them snips…. Good to meet you Justin !!

I don’t believe for one bit that PR doesn’t make Klein screwdrivers as I have many in many brands even PR and they are identical in every way shape or form from ribs on grip to the yellow handles round part above blade you use to spin the screwdriver. There is a pantent number on each grip and says made in USA on all, there’s no way they can all be identical with the same patent number idk where you got your info but I’m certain as they have made them for years for Klein as Klein specializes in pliers they don’t make much of they’re own goods other than those and the bags/belts leather and canvas goods as they own another company they bought to make those my dad has used klien since 60’s-70’s and even in my life time ive noticed the quality go down and up but not much in the up department but i use them because i think of my dad when i do who is now in his 60’s. They were supposed to have been making stringer tips on thier screwdrivers as they releaded the info seems like forever ago but ive noticed only slight difference at best they are still kinda soft. I will did out pics of my screwdrivers and i bet you guys you wont guess the one that says klein or PR or crescent and so on as they are identical in everyway except the name on them..I have a lot of Klein tools and I like the needle nose and larger wire cutters the most aside from snips. They do make damn good tool bags and belts that’s for sure and will last decades. 

Klein manufactures screwdrivers at their Mansfield, TX plant in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. They gave several bloggers a tour a couple years back.

They’re either making them, or they staged an elaborate hoax. I would believe Klein may source some component of the drivers from PR such as the acitate handle or the grips, but Klein is not OEM’ing the completed drivers through Pratt-Reed. 

Here is an article on Tools of the trade about a tour of their screwdriver plant (since shifted to Mansfield as I understand it)

http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/hand-tools/a-trip-to-the-screwdriver-factory_o

Dan and Eric toured Mansfield, though the focused mostly on pliers:

There are several others as well

Conductor562 wrote:

 

The Klein drivers aren’t made by Pratt-Reed. PR makes a nearly identical version, but Klein still makes their own drivers. 

 

Klein kind lost me 3-4 years ago. They added more and more import stuff to their line and these days I’m not sure Klein offers a single tool in which a superior version can’t be found elsewhere. This was based partly on some post by a Klein employee who posted about how the current generation of ownership was more concerned with cutting corners to keep cost down than they were producing top quality tools. He also talked about a widespread fear within the company that many production jobs were about to be offshored. Sure enough, after his posts there was an uptick in posts about Klein tool defects. People went postal on Klein’s FB page and eventually Klein even released a statement explaining that they had not cut any American jobs, only new products, most of which were Data/Com, were produced overseas.

 

  Maybe I’m holding them to an unfair standard as I know companies like Klein have a harder time than ever trying to compete with import tools that are of much improved quality than in the past, but high quality, American tools, were Klein’s identity and as a tool junkie, I have no respect for a company that purveys reduced quality tools with the intention of surviving on their name.

 

Klein may well have cleaned up their act, and I may be a vocal minority, but only time will tell. I’ve gone through similar self imposed embargos with other brands such as Mac and Makita. Mac really stepped up and started producing tools that were top shelf in quality and not just in price. Makita improved their line as well, so I quit riding their ass last year. They’re still behind Milwaukee and Dewalt, and have plenty of room to improve, but for awhile their line got almost to the point of being laughable by comparison.

 

Of course we had plenty of drama over that too. We had some 19 year old, self proclaimed blogger/professional contractor/professional gamer/confirmed moron, who went around the internet slandering our opinion and professing the superiority of Makita based on nothing aside from his “extensive professional experience”. So goes the internet I suppose. 

 

 

 

JimboS1ice wrote:

On 11/27/2016 at 0:37 PM, JimboS1ice said:

I’ve noticed all the multibit drivers are imported


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Yea, and just about all their Data/Com tools are imported too. 

As for the original post, I think that’s a great price for those tools. If I seen that kit here locally I would definitely jump on it.

It sucks though that Klein has shifted overseas. I used to think in my head “Klein, made in the USA”. Now I think “Klein, made in the USA, but some stuff is from Taiwan or China, as least all the screwdrivers are made in the USA, except for maybe the multidrivers or the little itty bitty ones, but for sure, we still make the pliers in the USA”

Knipex, Wiha, Wera and Gedore tools have been getting my attention lately. I really prefer the fit and finish of my Knipex pliers but I like the colored handles of Klein. Anyway, I still think they all make great tools, yes, even the ones made in Taiwan.

Surfer (aka Nalu) wrote:

5 minutes ago, Surfer (aka Nalu) said:

As for the original post, I think that’s a great price for those tools. If I seen that kit here locally I would definitely jump on it.

 

It sucks though that Klein has shifted overseas. I used to think in my head “Klein, made in the USA”. Now I think “Klein, made in the USA, but some stuff is from Taiwan or China, as least all the screwdrivers are made in the USA, except for maybe the multidrivers or the little itty bitty ones, but for sure, we still make the pliers in the USA”

 

Knipex, Wiha, Wera and Gedore tools have been getting my attention lately. I really prefer the fit and finish of my Knipex pliers but I like the colored handles of Klein. Anyway, I still think they all make great tools, yes, even the ones made in Taiwan.

I hear you Nalu. I actually just bought my first Gedore tools from KC today, they are out of stock but I figured I would order the set and take advantage of the 20% off while I can. Still love my American made Kleins though!!

ChrisK wrote:

1 minute ago, ChrisK said:

I hear you Nalu. I actually just bought my first Gedore tools from KC today, they are out of stock but I figured I would order the set and take advantage of the 20% off while I can. Still love my American made Kleins though!!

That’s awesome Chris! What type of Gedore tools did you buy? Screwdriver set, etc?

I don’t own any Gedore stuff, but I’ve been hearing great things about Gedore on YouTube. There are a few good channels talking about german made tools. 

KC Tools is kick ass by the way, just saying.

Yea multidrivers, and meters are made overseas and anything with lots of parts is made overseas from them. But I like Klein because I learned the trades with them, even if the quality is not what it use to be its still better then Harbor Freight..lol Plus if a tool is left behind on a job its not expensive to replace, attic work eats up tools like nobody’s business. If you drop a screwdriver in blown in insulation you will not find it. Also if you are crawling in the attic like G.I Joe tools fall out your pocket or hands.  

At my local IBEW 1186 everyone has Klein. I imagine it must be that way for most unions. In fact, the tool list they give you has all Klein tools. I’m still proud to own my Klein tools and I will be picking up more eventually. I want to pick up the journeyman series of pliers and keep all different colored handles for easy identification. I think I’ll be keeping my Kleins on the belt and Knipex in the veto bag. 

Surfer (aka Nalu) wrote:

1 hour ago, Surfer (aka Nalu) said:

 

That’s awesome Chris! What type of Gedore tools did you buy? Screwdriver set, etc?

 

I don’t own any Gedore stuff, but I’ve been hearing great things about Gedore on YouTube. There are a few good channels talking about german made tools. 

 

KC Tools is kick ass by the way, just saying.

Sorry Nalu! Here’s the set I got….

https://www.kctoolco.com/gedore-s-8393-3-piece-pliers-set/

It looks pretty sweet, I’ve got a bunch of NWS pliers and absolutely love them but these look really solid and I really need a pipe wrench so….. 🙂

Surfer (aka Nalu) wrote:

1 hour ago, Surfer (aka Nalu) said:

At my local IBEW 1186 everyone has Klein. I imagine it must be that way for most unions. In fact, the tool list they give you has all Klein tools. I’m still proud to own my Klein tools and I will be picking up more eventually. I want to pick up the journeyman series of pliers and keep all different colored handles for easy identification. I think I’ll be keeping my Kleins on the belt and Knipex in the veto bag. 

I have the Journeyman linesman pliers and they are phenomenal as well as the high viz diagonals and a multi driver. They are fantastic tools.

To be clear, I’m not Klein bashing. I like Klein and have some of their tools in my own box. They’re good quality tools with the vast majority of them still being made here and in today’s market, that’s worthy of my respect. 

I think what it boils down to is Klein needed to expand their offerings and jump harder into the Data/Com market to compete with larger companies like Ideal and doing so, for various reasons, wasn’t feasible with 100% American manufacturing. Maybe they were testing the waters to gauge consumer interest, maybe they weren’t, and unless anyone here set in on their board meetings, we probably never will. 

It’s sad that companies are forced into situations like this where offshore production is the only option, but for some types of products, it’s just the reality of the times we live in. 

They all all do it. Snap-On, Mac, hell, I think the only thing Matco actually makes on their own anymore is their toolboxes. Some of them market the bulk of their offshore products under different labels to protect their brand identity, but they all do it in some way. Even Wright now makes their Cougar budget line overseas, but they now call it Cougar Pro. 

The he bottom line is that most people are willing to accept a little lesser quality to save money. Consumer complacency and a drastic increase in import quality has created a market where American manufacturers have no choice but to drive down costs in order to survive. But that doesn’t mean I have to like it. It is what it is I suppose.

Conductor562 wrote:

17 hours ago, Conductor562 said:

To be clear, I’m not Klein bashing. I like Klein and have some of their tools in my own box. They’re good quality tools with the vast majority of them still being made here and in today’s market, that’s worthy of my respect. 

 

I think what it boils down to is Klein needed to expand their offerings and jump harder into the Data/Com market to compete with larger companies like Ideal and doing so, for various reasons, wasn’t feasible with 100% American manufacturing. Maybe they were testing the waters to gauge consumer interest, maybe they weren’t, and unless anyone here set in on their board meetings, we probably never will. 

 

It’s sad that companies are forced into situations like this where offshore production is the only option, but for some types of products, it’s just the reality of the times we live in. 

 

They all all do it. Snap-On, Mac, hell, I think the only thing Matco actually makes on their own anymore is their toolboxes. Some of them market the bulk of their offshore products under different labels to protect their brand identity, but they all do it in some way. Even Wright now makes their Cougar budget line overseas, but they now call it Cougar Pro. 

 

The he bottom line is that most people are willing to accept a little lesser quality to save money. Consumer complacency and a drastic increase in import quality has created a market where American manufacturers have no choice but to drive down costs in order to survive. But that doesn’t mean I have to like it. It is what it is I suppose.

 

 

Very well stated, as is with most of your posts.

Surfer (aka Nalu) wrote:

On 11/28/2016 at 7:32 PM, Surfer (aka Nalu) said:

As for the original post, I think that’s a great price for those tools. If I seen that kit here locally I would definitely jump on it.

 

It sucks though that Klein has shifted overseas. I used to think in my head “Klein, made in the USA”. Now I think “Klein, made in the USA, but some stuff is from Taiwan or China, as least all the screwdrivers are made in the USA, except for maybe the multidrivers or the little itty bitty ones, but for sure, we still make the pliers in the USA”

 

Knipex, Wiha, Wera and Gedore tools have been getting my attention lately. I really prefer the fit and finish of my Knipex pliers but I like the colored handles of Klein. Anyway, I still think they all make great tools, yes, even the ones made in Taiwan.

I’ve received a decent education from you guys here on Taiwan tools and they are a decent quality metal going into the tools. The opposite was said about Chinese metal, though…

Surfer (aka Nalu) wrote:

On 11/28/2016 at 7:49 PM, Surfer (aka Nalu) said:

At my local IBEW 1186 everyone has Klein. I imagine it must be that way for most unions. In fact, the tool list they give you has all Klein tools. I’m still proud to own my Klein tools and I will be picking up more eventually. I want to pick up the journeyman series of pliers and keep all different colored handles for easy identification. I think I’ll be keeping my Kleins on the belt and Knipex in the veto bag. 

I love the Journeyman series, I have the stripper/crimper/cutter and its the first I grab when doing general electrical.

Been looking at their other offerings. Feel great in the hand, too

KnarlyCarl wrote:

 

I love the Journeyman series, I have the stripper/crimper/cutter and its the first I grab when doing general electrical.

Been looking at their other offerings. Feel great in the hand, too

Surfer (aka Nalu) wrote:

Just now, Surfer (aka Nalu) said:

 

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Dude, I got these free from HD. I guess the cashier missed these when it was piled in some other strippers I bought. I looked at the receipt and sure enough, it was not included.

Love these things, I don’t have the crimper one, mine had a spring that I took out

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that is sweet now march your arse back there and pay for them…the last thing I need is for HD to go out of business, what the hell would I do where would I go?……lol

comp56 wrote:

30 minutes ago, comp56 said:

that is sweet now march your arse back there and pay for them…the last thing I need is for HD to go out of business, what the hell would I do where would I go?……lol

You could go to Lowe’s if you like shitty tools.

Although I will admit I need to study up on Southwire. My assumption was that Lowe’s was simply licensing the Southwire name for a line of shit tools, but I may have to find out the truth after Eric’s post.  

Conductor562 wrote:

 

You could go to Lowe’s if you like shitty tools.

 

Although I will admit I need to study up on Southwire. My assumption was that Lowe’s was simply licensing the Southwire name for a line of shit tools, but I may have to find out the truth after Eric’s post.  

JimboS1ice wrote:

40 minutes ago, JimboS1ice said:

Not a fan of southwire, most tools are Chinese, some stuff is making there way over here but mainly rip off of Klein


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That was my take on them as well. They replaced all the Klein stuff with Greenlee, then phased out Greenlee in favor of Southwire. I haven’t even looked at Southwire for a couple years, but when they came out I wasn’t impressed. 

I had had it in for Lowe’s anyway after they reduced the Kobalt line to shit and phased out Milwaukee and Channellock, so I might have been a little biased 

Conductor562 wrote:

 

That was my take on them as well. They replaced all the Klein stuff with Greenlee, then phased out Greenlee in favor of Southwire. I haven’t even looked at Southwire for a couple years, but when they came out I wasn’t impressed. 

 

I had had it in for Lowe’s anyway after they reduced the Kobalt line to shit and phased out Milwaukee and Channellock, so I might have been a little biased 

Man, I’m getting all teary eyed thinking about how great a value the original Kobalt stuff was ?

Yea it’s a shame they made such a name for themselves and just shat all over it


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Surfer (aka Nalu) wrote:

4 hours ago, Surfer (aka Nalu) said:

 

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Dude, I got these free from HD. I guess the cashier missed these when it was piled in some other strippers I bought. I looked at the receipt and sure enough, it was not included.

Love these things, I don’t have the crimper one, mine had a spring that I took out

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Yup, mine is the crimper ones, got mine free from TIA during a periscope random giveaway!!!

Conductor562 wrote:

1 hour ago, Conductor562 said:

 

That was my take on them as well. They replaced all the Klein stuff with Greenlee, then phased out Greenlee in favor of Southwire. I haven’t even looked at Southwire for a couple years, but when they came out I wasn’t impressed. 

 

I had had it in for Lowe’s anyway after they reduced the Kobalt line to shit and phased out Milwaukee and Channellock, so I might have been a little biased 

This is why I frequent Lowes very infrequently shall I say….

Southwire hand tools are mediocre, for the price and availability, not bad, just don’t expect real good quality. I myself won’t buy them. I do, however like their meters, I have used one for about a year now, and more recently they sent me another one that is IP67 rated, seems pretty decent and I haven’t had a problem with my current one. So I wouldn’t overlook the meters, just the hand tools.

Also, @NicolasRamos did you say whether you recognized the meters from another brand..?

Lowe’s is for chicks..lol Nobody goes there I know there losing money its been like that since they built the place. I went there on black friday just to see how empty it was, I was like the only one there. It is still a mystery why they burned down the Home Depot by me and then knocked it down just a few months after the fire. This happened in 2013 and Lowe’s still didn’t gain any customers they just went to the other HD thats a few miles away. I will admit the two HD’s seemed pointless being so close to each other. The HD had minor fire damage and the fire never penetrated the roof, it seems like an insurance scam. The HD was not that old maybe only like 8 years or so, but its just an empty lot now. Maybe HD was losing money having the two stores. When I saw them tearing it down I couldn’t believe it such a waste of money to knockdown a newer building. That little smoke cloud is about as bad as it got, ask yourself how does this become a tear down. America needs to stop being so wasteful. Don’t know why I started talking about this but it bothers me how you can just cash in on something like this. Tell me what you think

Yeah, it’s insane to think about that, mall south of me was a great place, The Andersons hardware store was in there and they were like a HD, loved going there, they tore that whole thing down and now it’s this huge empty lot. Couldn’t believe it wasn’t worth keeping, I just shake my head…. 

I am sure that there is a formula somewhere in the books that someone uses to determine whether or not it will be cost effective to keep a building alive. But when you begin to consider municipal tax rates along with the costs of maintenance and security for an empty structure, not to mention liability issues and insurance, the razing of these structures is less surprising in the end.

KnarlyCarl wrote:

 

This is why I frequent Lowes very infrequently shall I say….

Southwire hand tools are mediocre, for the price and availability, not bad, just don’t expect real good quality. I myself won’t buy them. I do, however like their meters, I have used one for about a year now, and more recently they sent me another one that is IP67 rated, seems pretty decent and I haven’t had a problem with my current one. So I wouldn’t overlook the meters, just the hand tools.

Also, @NicolasRamos did you say whether you recognized the meters from another brand..?

Justin Hernandez wrote:

On 12/1/2016 at 0:08 AM, Justin Hernandez said:

Lowe’s is for chicks..lol Nobody goes there I know there losing money its been like that since they built the place. I went there on black friday just to see how empty it was, I was like the only one there. It is still a mystery why they burned down the Home Depot by me and then knocked it down just a few months after the fire. This happened in 2013 and Lowe’s still didn’t gain any customers they just went to the other HD thats a few miles away. I will admit the two HD’s seemed pointless being so close to each other. The HD had minor fire damage and the fire never penetrated the roof, it seems like an insurance scam. The HD was not that old maybe only like 8 years or so, but its just an empty lot now. Maybe HD was losing money having the two stores. When I saw them tearing it down I couldn’t believe it such a waste of money to knockdown a newer building. That little smoke cloud is about as bad as it got, ask yourself how does this become a tear down. America needs to stop being so wasteful. Don’t know why I started talking about this but it bothers me how you can just cash in on something like this. Tell me what you think

I realize now that The Home Depot was only five years old. Such a waste