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Looks like California Power saw safety bill AB 2218 that would have mandated Saw Stop technology died in the Senate. It wasn’t voted down, it wasn’t voted on at all.
Conductor562 wrote:
Looks like California Power saw safety bill AB 2218 that would have mandated Saw Stop technology died in the Senate. It wasn’t voted down, it wasn’t voted on at all.
I have a feeling that we haven’t heard the end of this…
I’d say not. Apparently the guy that invented it is a patent attorney and holds 90 patents related to saw stuff. We may have won the battle, but there’s a whole war ahead.
Conductor562 wrote:
I’d say not. Apparently the guy that invented it is a patent attorney and holds 90 patents related to saw stuff. We may have won the battle, but there’s a whole war ahead.
This whole patent/copyright thing has gotten well out of hand. Our laws are in need of serious reform.
This Saw Stop guy will go to all 50 states making his case if that’s what it takes. I guess the whole deal kind of disgusts me. Nobody wants to be forced to buy his crap.
How can it be legal to force everyone to have to have something the patent for which is owned and controlled by one individual????????
Wayne Burgess wrote:
How can it be legal to force everyone to have to have something the patent for which is owned and controlled by one individual????????
It is not legal, The Sawstop guy is trying to get legislators to pass a law for a safety standard, and he has hedged his bet against anyone else coming up with an idea that he has not patented.
I think it’s more him rather than the technology that pisses everyone off.
Conductor562 wrote:
I think it’s more him rather than the technology that pisses everyone off.
I think it is both him and the law. RRP is causing a lot of grief and many don’t want to have to comply with more laws that will require even more new equipment.
I’m not opposed to it as an option, but I hate to see it shoved up our ass.
Conductor562 wrote:
I’m not opposed to it as an option, but I hate to see it shoved up our ass.
I don’t think someone should be able to monopolize a technology that is required by law, and don’t feel that a law should be passed while someone holds an monopoly on a technology that the law would demand.
We’ll see how the next California legislature session goes.
Years ago this guy tried to market his SawStop safety brake mechanism (either supplied or made under license) to most if not all of the major table saw manufacturers. After several years of no takers (perhaps it was a pricing issue) he decided to go into the table saw business himself incorporating his patented safety brake device in all models.
The technology is great and pretty simple BUT, and this is a BIG but, he will no longer make the safety brake device itself available to any competitor and is bent on running them all out of the table saw business unless they can make their saws equally safe. The primary purpose of the safety brake device, operator safety, is being used as justification for all his legal attempts to monopolize the market that rejected his offer to supply or license.
My experience is that people will not pay substantially more for non-essential safety devices if the have a choice.
I love making my own choices!
Amen to that. Nothing like the government protecting you from yourself.
Haha If I am going to cut off a finger gosh darn it I will chop off that finger!
crazyandy wrote:
Haha If I am going to cut off a finger gosh darn it I will chop off that finger!
That’s right! It’s my God Damned finger and I’ll cut it off as I please 😆
Conductor562 wrote:
I think it’s more him rather than the technology that pisses everyone off.
I agree.
I’m kind of surprised the technology has not been reverse engineered by now.
If I want to spend a fortune on a saw then cut my hand off rather than put it in my wife’s purse and get the same result for free, that should be my choice. 🙂