DCS520 Track Saw / plunge saw Flexvoltsystem

Hi guys,

over the next copule of days a have a few pics and tools to share

Here is the release of the DCS520 track saw / plunge saw

initially might be a Europe thing 

release planned September 2016

(my friend is currently testing it)

again, don´t be irretated with the 54Volt Flexvolt battery (= identical to USA VErsion 60V max*)

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cheers

mike

Now that I really like, don’t know if you need it on a 60v platform but there are only so many tracksaws available

Jimbo

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Hopefully then end up bringing it over to the states. I would defiantly interested in the 60v Track Saw and 12″ Miter. We don’t have a whole lot of track saw options in the USA right now. Tool companies should really work on the marketing as it’s a great more portable replacement for a table saw in some situations.

Ugh…another right blade saw. It’s like the birth of a new baby, and you turn it around and it looks like Jocelyn Wildenstein. The disappointment is real. 

Is it more or is the secondary handle looks like a piece of plastic thrown on? Looks odd.

JimboS1ice wrote:

5 hours ago, JimboS1ice said:

Now that I really like, don’t know if you need it on a 60v platform but there are only so many tracksaws available

Jimbo

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Agree with Jimbo on this one, would have really liked to see this on the 20V platform as well. Not sure if I can justify getting into this new platform just yet. 

Having said that, thanks for the tool news though. Any other tools your friend is testing but you can’t divulge info on yet?

midogrumpy wrote:

5 hours ago, midogrumpy said:

Hi guys,

over the next copule of days a have a few pics and tools to share

 

Here is the release of the DCS520 track saw / plunge saw

initially might be a Europe thing 

release planned September 2016

(my friend is currently testing it)

again, don´t be irretated with the 54Volt Flexvolt battery (= identical to USA VErsion 60V max*)

[External image (www.werkzeug-news.de), not copied]

 

cheers

mike

Nice Mike. I’ve got the wee lil Festool contractor with a couple of FSK rails and it can use the regular rails. This is an awesome move from Dewalt!!!

Damn you SBD! I’m fine with my collection being one color…keeping it that way is getting harder by the day with all these reveals.

I wonder if the battery on the back gives it a funny balance point…still looks cool.

All track saws are blade right…you don’t need to see the cut on a track saw…kinda the point of the track.

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StrippedScrew wrote:

11 hours ago, StrippedScrew said:

Is it more or is the secondary handle looks like a piece of plastic thrown on? Looks odd.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease. With Dewalt being an active participant on the forum, the feedback makes it’s way back. So just ignore my complaints for a little while, lol. 

What I do love about that saw though…look how fantastic the index markings are for depth and miter. Finally a saw that can be set at a glance that’s not a $700-$800 festool. Me likey. 

HEY, what’s that dial for at the top?! Is that variable speed or something?

just confirmed by Dewalt rep

the question asked above (wheel)

is for VARIABLE speed ! / DCS520 plunge- track saw

cheers

midogrumpy wrote:

13 hours ago, midogrumpy said:

just confirmed by Dewalt rep

the question asked above (wheel)

is for VARIABLE speed ! / DCS520 plunge- track saw

 

 

 

cheers

Man, I’m on fire! 

Hugh Jass wrote:

On 6/25/2016 at 8:15 AM, Hugh Jass said:

 

The squeaky wheel gets the grease. With Dewalt being an active participant on the forum, the feedback makes it’s way back. So just ignore my complaints for a little while, lol. 

 

What I do love about that saw though…look how fantastic the index markings are for depth and miter. Finally a saw that can be set at a glance that’s not a $700-$800 festool. Me likey. 

 

HEY, what’s that dial for at the top?! Is that variable speed or something?

If you are the only squeaky wheel, chances are greater that they will ignore you.

This is now confirmed to be coming to the US market in Spring 2017. The saw will be packaged with a 6ah battery and charger in a Tstak box . I don’t know about you but I am excited. It will be mine.

Yeah. My above comment is no longer valid, I now have yellow and FlexVolt will have w place in my collection as well. This saw has me excited. 

Oh Yes, Oh Yeah, YOU will be mine!  Glad I held out buying a track saw.

i cat wait for this.

this is the only tool I probably see myself buying . I have 18 v versions of the other. I might get the joist drill and table saw

I’ll wait on a hybrid 10″ table saw, just like I’ll (impatiently) wait on a blade left 7.25″ since I already have a blade left 6.5 and blade right 7.25. 

Bremon wrote:

29 minutes ago, Bremon said:

I’ll wait on a hybrid 10″ table saw, just like I’ll (impatiently) wait on a blade left 7.25″ since I already have a blade left 6.5 and blade right 7.25. 

Me too…I’m holding out for the blade left even though I could make great use of the updated 60v as I use my 6.5 every day and find it just underpowered for my needs cutting PT as the RPM’s drop just a bit lower than I like to keep the cuts clean. It works…but I’d update in a second. 

It has been reported that DeWalt is working on a blade left version and should be due out Spring 2017.

Hopefully they remember the rafter hook this time

A blade left cordless worm drive with hook would be sweet!!

Bremon wrote:

7 hours ago, Bremon said:

Hopefully they remember the rafter hook this time

Hopefully they will have the saws so the folks who want a rafter hook can put one on and folks who don’t can leave it off, they could have it go on or off with one or two screws (If they were really slick it would take the same wrench as the blade screw).

Great point grumpy 

Keep thinking this would be a nice second tracksaw…but also am curious to try out the Festool HK saws…

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no table saw anymore.. sold mine… hmmm is this a better solution… planned on the circle saw… now i am intrigued by this

overanalyze wrote:

I wonder if the battery on the back gives it a funny balance point…still looks cool.

All track saws are blade right…you don’t need to see the cut on a track saw…kinda the point of the track.

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Why couldn’t you just flip the saw/track (actual question; I have no experience with track saws and have never seen one in person). Worst case scenario throw a fence on a sidewinder lol. 

Craigh9916 wrote:

Yes but if you wanted to take 1 inch off a full sheet of ply the only way to do it is to lean over the sheet and cut it or use the saw left handed ? I know it’s not a big deal though !


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As much as I like to cut the cord I love the fact that I can plug my FST track saw in to the Dust Extractor. That is the biggest problem I see with most cordless track saws. They all kick up a ton of dust.

I would like to see an adapter similar to the 18v-20vMax adapter so you can “intelligently” let a cordless vacuum (powered by its own battery) that your saw is running and it needs to power up and do its job lol.

overanalyze wrote:

Keep thinking this would be a nice second tracksaw…but also am curious to try out the Festool HK saws…

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Bremon wrote:

57 minutes ago, Bremon said:

I would like to see an adapter similar to the 18v-20vMax adapter so you can “intelligently” let a cordless vacuum (powered by its own battery) that your saw is running and it needs to power up and do its job lol.

This is called a tool actuated switch. There’s options on the market but nothing cordless. I’ve been trying to put a switch kit together for a big boy vacuum (Ridgid 6.5hp) but nothing on the market can hold up to the starting amps they draw. Best thing I’ve found is the iVac tool actuated switches but they’re only good for 5 peak HP even with dual dedicated circuitry. 

Search continues. =-/ 

Could there maybe be hope in the FlexVolt platform, or would 120vMax potentially be required? (In which case for the mitre you’re dedicating 4 batteries to cleaner cuts)

Hugh Jass wrote:

12 hours ago, Hugh Jass said:

 

This is called a tool actuated switch. There’s options on the market but nothing cordless. I’ve been trying to put a switch kit together for a big boy vacuum (Ridgid 6.5hp) but nothing on the market can hold up to the starting amps they draw. Best thing I’ve found is the iVac tool actuated switches but they’re only good for 5 peak HP even with dual dedicated circuitry. 

 

Search continues. =-/ 

The other option is to use the tool with the vacuum set up for the purpose. The Fein, Fetool and DeWALT dust extractors are set up to have the tool plug into the vacuum. Pull the trigger on the saw, the vacuum roars to life, wait for both to get up to speed and then plunge the saw into the wood. Finish the cut, let go of the trigger and the vacuum continues to run for a little bit to finish clearing the hose. I know DeWALT has clips available to clip the cord to the hose and I am sure the others probably offer the same.

Grumpy MSG wrote:

On 8/31/2016 at 0:21 PM, Grumpy MSG said:

The other option is to use the tool with the vacuum set up for the purpose. The Fein, Fetool and DeWALT dust extractors are set up to have the tool plug into the vacuum. Pull the trigger on the saw, the vacuum roars to life, wait for both to get up to speed and then plunge the saw into the wood. Finish the cut, let go of the trigger and the vacuum continues to run for a little bit to finish clearing the hose. I know DeWALT has clips available to clip the cord to the hose and I am sure the others probably offer the same.

 

Yep, and you pay hundreds of dollars more for $10 worth of electronics and switch gear just for the option on a vacuum that has a lot less suction, because it has a lot less power to make room for the cranking amps of the tool that’s actuating the vacuum. It’s a firm pass for me, I’ll reach for the switch and keep the performance personally until a solution becomes available. I hate paying a lot more for a lot less. 

Bremon wrote:

On 8/30/2016 at 11:56 PM, Bremon said:

Could there maybe be hope in the FlexVolt platform, or would 120vMax potentially be required? (In which case for the mitre you’re dedicating 4 batteries to cleaner cuts)

Personally I think this is the one tool that we won’t see out of Flexvolt. A good Vac requires a lot of power, it’s not the voltage that’s the issue. Smaller less powerful vac’s will likely come to 120v flexvolt but they won’t be competitive with mains power tools anytime soon IMO. For an instant a 6.5 peak hp motor can draw over 4800 watts and 44amps, for instance. 

It takes 4 flexvolt batteries (the power station) to combine for a 3600 peak rating, and that’s without a tool actuating the vac. 

So I had a thought…if a cordless vac had a dust sensor on it that would trigger the vac on it could work like the tool trigger on AC vacs. Our BuildClean HEPA filter has one to trigger the fan speed higher when dust is present…maybe to expensive??

overanalyze wrote:

1 hour ago, overanalyze said:

So I had a thought…if a cordless vac had a dust sensor on it that would trigger the vac on it could work like the tool trigger on AC vacs. Our BuildClean HEPA filter has one to trigger the fan speed higher when dust is present…maybe to expensive??

I’m guessing that senses the dust flowing which you couldn’t do before the vac turns on.  What is really necessary (and I’m surprised festool doesn’t have this already) is a signal either sent through the shop vac hose or using bluetooth to the vac.  The downside is this requires compatibility between the two tools which of course won’t exist between brands.  I bet Milwaukee will have a onekey vac in a couple years and re-release the miter saw so everyone who wants dust collection has to buy a new one.

Yeah it would mean that the sensor would need power when in that mode to be able to do it’s job. Also the sensor would probably need to be in the end of the hose vs at the unit which would make the hose more expensive.

Good thought on the one key. That could be an option.

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whats the advantages and disadvantages of including a hook on a circular saw? I feel like I don’t use it to its full potential but maybe Im just using it wrong? I find I can easily set the saw on the ground when the cutting is finished.

2448jman wrote:

whats the advantages and disadvantages of including a hook on a circular saw? I feel like I don’t use it to its full potential but maybe Im just using it wrong? I find I can easily set the saw on the ground when the cutting is finished.

Rafter hook is nice to hang on a saw horse when your grabbing another piece than to set on the ground and trip over


Jimbo

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2448jman wrote:

1 hour ago, 2448jman said:

whats the advantages and disadvantages of including a hook on a circular saw? I feel like I don’t use it to its full potential but maybe Im just using it wrong? I find I can easily set the saw on the ground when the cutting is finished.

There really isn’t a disadvantage since it’s a couple ounces on a >7lb tool and folds out of the way.  It’s a huge lifesaver when you’re holding something in place with one hand and actually have the saw within reach.

jeffmcmillan wrote:

On 9/2/2016 at 10:34 PM, jeffmcmillan said:

I’m guessing that senses the dust flowing which you couldn’t do before the vac turns on.  What is really necessary (and I’m surprised festool doesn’t have this already) is a signal either sent through the shop vac hose or using bluetooth to the vac.  The downside is this requires compatibility between the two tools which of course won’t exist between brands.  I bet Milwaukee will have a onekey vac in a couple years and re-release the miter saw so everyone who wants dust collection has to buy a new one.

ahhahaha classic! it’s annoying tho, grinds my gears sometimes…

I prefer using  right blade saw with my left hand. I don’t mind the right blade design of the track saw.

Hugh Jass wrote:

On 9/1/2016 at 8:49 PM, Hugh Jass said:

 

 

Yep, and you pay hundreds of dollars more for $10 worth of electronics and switch gear just for the option on a vacuum that has a lot less suction, because it has a lot less power to make room for the cranking amps of the tool that’s actuating the vacuum. It’s a firm pass for me, I’ll reach for the switch and keep the performance personally until a solution becomes available. I hate paying a lot more for a lot less. 

So does the vac only have less power when tool actuated or does power increase if the switch is used? I was interested in the DeWALT vac since it has tool actuated option and has self cleaning system but if it doesn’t have enough power I may need to look at a different option.

JMG wrote:

1 hour ago, JMG said:

Video (YouTube)

 

wow sounded like the Festool was struggling a bit. The DeWALT sounded like it had power to spare. Also nice the DeWALT works with Festool track

iam76 wrote:

On 8/29/2016 at 8:31 PM, iam76 said:

no table saw anymore.. sold mine… hmmm is this a better solution… planned on the circle saw… now i am intrigued by this

for larger/wider material the track saw is the way to go. The cut, when properly used, should be great. A track saw is going to be a more expensive option than a circular saw, but what you get with the increased cost is a better cut, usually better dust collection, and more accurate cuts. I wouldn’t completely get rid of your table saw though. If I could only have either a track saw or table saw I would go with the table saw because it more easily can cut narrow material. The table saw is a lot better for cutting small or narrow material.