Daredevil holesaw

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JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

Enjoy

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John GlasseyMember since Jan 2014

Good videos today Jimbo, this one will save people some money too. Thanks dude.

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Dano123Member since Feb 2016

I am sure it is a great video, I haven’t seen a bad one from Jimbo! However, I can’t see it on Tapatalk…

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LoganMember since Jun 2015

Good job on the videos jimbo they are always great 

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

Dano123 wrote:

I am sure it is a great video, I haven’t seen a bad one from Jimbo! However, I can’t see it on Tapatalk…

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Try hitting web view

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FazzmanMember since Apr 2014

I know bosch makes some pretty good saws and blades,Id love to see you do a holesaw shootout one day with my favorite Lenox Holesaws.  The L;enox set I have is really beefy man,itcan hog thjru some stuff like butter.     Jim you are doing great videos,thanks again for sharing.

 

 

Lenox has many different kit configurations.here is the set i have the 17 piece general purpose kit,all the exterior doors on our house are wood and steel sheathed. these things cut out the holes for the locksets in no time and with my plain jane PC drill.  

 

http://www.amazon.com/Lenox-Tools-308201200G-General-Purpose-Bi-Metal/dp/B0000224TK?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

Mondo1310Member since Jun 2015

I was very disappointed in the Bosch hole saws. It seemed too good to true. Thanks for the heads up Jimbo. Definitely take those back and invest in a better set. 

Mondo1310Member since Jun 2015

Fazzman wrote:

4 hours ago, Fazzman said:

I know bosch makes some pretty good saws and blades,Id love to see you do a holesaw shootout one day with my favorite Lenox Holesaws.  The L;enox set I have is really beefy man,itcan hog thjru some stuff like butter.     Jim you are doing great videos,thanks again for sharing.

 

 

Lenox has many different kit configurations.here is the set i have the 17 piece general purpose kit,all the exterior doors on our house are wood and steel sheathed. these things cut out the holes for the locksets in notime and with my plain jane PC drill.  

 

http://www.amazon.com/Lenox-Tools-308201200G-General-Purpose-Bi-Metal/dp/B0000224TK?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

I’ve heard nothing but good things about Lenox hole saws. That’s a great kit . 

KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

Dano123 wrote:

I am sure it is a great video, I haven’t seen a bad one from Jimbo! However, I can’t see it on Tapatalk…

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Yeah Tapatalk messes up a lot of different links and videos, annoying as all get out…

Well thanks for giving them a test run, that arbor was just destined to fail I’m afraid…. The saw dust just wasn’t able to clear out either, not wide enough kerf to clear the dust oit

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T75RMember since Jan 2016

Thanks for the video Jimbo. Definitely not picking those up!

KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

Fazzman wrote:

I know bosch makes some pretty good saws and blades,Id love to see you do a holesaw shootout one day with my favorite Lenox Holesaws.  The L;enox set I have is really beefy man,itcan hog thjru some stuff like butter.     Jim you are doing great videos,thanks again for sharing.

 

 

Lenox has many different kit configurations.here is the set i have the 17 piece general purpose kit,all the exterior doors on our house are wood and steel sheathed. these things cut out the holes for the locksets in notime and with my plain jane PC drill.  

 

http://www.amazon.com/Lenox-Tools-308201200G-General-Purpose-Bi-Metal/dp/B0000224TK?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

Yep, love the Lenox for the nail embedded wood or sheet metal. I love the Milwaukee big hawg hole saws for straight wood.

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tonylandinMember since Dec 2015

Nice video was really surprised on this one. I thought they would be a little better than that. I use Milwaukee bi metal I don’t have a set but only a few that I use I think I even have two arbors that I like with the two locking pins.

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JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

tonylandin wrote:

29 minutes ago, tonylandin said:

Nice video was really surprised on this one. I thought they would be a little better than that. I use Milwaukee bi metal I don’t have a set but only a few that I use I think I even have two arbors that I like with the two locking pins.

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yea the arbor on the milwaukees is actually quite nicer that the bosch,wasn’t a fan of the way they lock to the arbor

Dano123Member since Feb 2016

Glad I was able to watch this, those are garbage! I would leave it in the board, its not worth the effort to remove it…

DaveJr.Member since Nov 2015

Thanks Jimbo, now I don’t have to find out the hard way if these are good or not. So from the looks of it, Lenox is the way to go I guess?

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

DaveJr. wrote:

Thanks Jimbo, now I don’t have to find out the hard way if these are good or not. So from the looks of it, Lenox is the way to go I guess?

Lennox, Diablo, Bosch carbide, Milwaukee hawg

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BMack37Member since Sep 2015

Dano123 wrote:

10 hours ago, Dano123 said:

Glad I was able to watch this, those are garbage! I would leave it in the board, its not worth the effort to remove it…

 

I’d take those POSs back to the store. Lowe’s would take it back no problem, HD would probably fight you…until you show them the broken piece.

 

You could cut the wood on either side of the holesaw and bring them the holesaw stuck in the wood, haha.

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

BMack37 wrote:

 

I’d take those POSs back to the store. Lowe’s would take it back no problem, HD would probably fight you…until you show them the broken piece.

 

You could cut the wood on either side of the holesaw and bring them the holesaw stuck in the wood, haha.

I drilled some relief holes around it, brought them back this morning they didn’t fight me either

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BMack37Member since Sep 2015

JimboS1ice wrote:

43 minutes ago, JimboS1ice said:

I drilled some relief holes around it, brought them back this morning they didn’t fight me either

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Awesome!

 

Though it would have been pretty funny to periscope the reaction when you hand them a block of wood with the holesaw stuck in it.

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

BMack37 wrote:

 

Awesome!

 

Though it would have been pretty funny to periscope the reaction when you hand them a block of wood with the holesaw stuck in it.

It was funny too my phone ran out of memory right before it got stuck, it’s like it knew

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BigmikezMember since Jun 2013

Thanks for the heads up Jimbo, sucks that those didn’t work to well.

sparky603Member since Jun 2014

KnarlyCarl wrote:

On 5/31/2016 at 10:19 PM, KnarlyCarl said:

I love the Milwaukee big hawg hole saws for straight wood.

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I’m with you on the Big Hawgs – nothing beats them or similar for larger holes in framing. I’ve also been using some Lenox One-Tooth ones that I got cheap off of Ebay recently. They’re kind of crazy-aggressive, with just the one tooth, but no problem handling them in my M18 Hole Hawg. I despise bi-metal type hole saws.

John GlasseyMember since Jan 2014

I just got a set of the big hawgs. They are nice.  They do a job on wood and the accessional nail. 

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

Glasseyi wrote:

34 minutes ago, Glasseyi said:

I just got a set of the big hawgs. They are nice.  They do a job on wood and the accessional nail. 

I need to get a set of those, i hear nothing but good about them

John GlasseyMember since Jan 2014

What you need to,do is get one a common size say 2 -9/16″ and try it out. See if you like it then get the set. Good luck Jimbo. 

KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

Glasseyi wrote:

What you need to,do is get one a common size say 2 -9/16″ and try it out. See if you like it then get the set. Good luck Jimbo. 

Good idea. I got the size you mentioned, as well as the 2-1/8″ for the 2″ and 1-1/2″ PVC pipe I use a lot of.

My boss and I were talking about this vs using super hawg and chipper/self feed bits. We came to the conclusion to not buy a super hawg because of these awesome hole saws and they require much less power to run, so I use my drill. We have a cordless hole hawg if I’m in a tighter spot than my drill can fit, and that works perfect. The self feed bits will require much more power and although the super hawg has a long body, it will still take you on a ride if you’re not holding on properly. Granted, it does have anti kickback, but you still have to hold on good. It’s so effortless to run the big hawg compared to self feed bits, I’ve come to the conclusion that is a better fit for me at the end of the day. Sure I would love to get my hands on a super hawg but I’m not buying one myself just for having one haha

Plus the self feed bits make so much more mess, you can’t easily drill the hole out bigger, and if I’m trying to locate a hole through the material on the other side by drilling a pilot hole to check clearance, there goes my material for which the self feed screw needs to pull itself through with.

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JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

Not only that but if your concerned about clean up, self feeds make a huge mess

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KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

JimboS1ice wrote:

Not only that but if your concerned about clean up, self feeds make a huge mess

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Haha yeah I just edited my post to include that

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KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

I like Bosch bits and accessories but Acme was having a sale on the big hawg and they are deeper than the Bosch I believe

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sparky603Member since Jun 2014

Bosch sent me a couple of large 3-tooth TCT hole saws sized for recessed cans a while back, to try out. Just like the Big Hawgs, just not as deep, and with carbide teeth. I’m surprised they came out with those in the video. Obviously, a set wouldn’t be $20, like those in the OP’s post. The ones they sent me were awesome, but that $20 set looks like HF junk. Plus, there’s no way I’m using a hole saw arbor without pins in this day and age.

 

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sparky603Member since Jun 2014

4-5/8″ Big Hawg through wet 2x PT with my 2nd gen Fuel in low, no problem. That was a 10-sec hole. A 2-3/4″ through regular framing with my M18 Hole Hawg is literally a 3-sec hole.

 

 

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NordrawMember since Dec 2012

You should bring them back to the store with the piece of wood it’s stuck in.

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

nordraw wrote:

You should bring them back to the store with the piece of wood it’s stuck in.

Thought about it but I dug it out and returned them.

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KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

sparky603 wrote:

………Plus, there’s no way I’m using a hole saw arbor without pins in this day and age.

 

Yup, this big time

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John GlasseyMember since Jan 2014

I just got a 10 pcs set of the big hawg hole saws. And just the fact that they can last 10x longer and come with a diamond sharpening stone sold me on them. 

KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

Glasseyi wrote:

I just got a 10 pcs set of the big hawg hole saws. And just the fact that they can last 10x longer and come with a diamond sharpening stone sold me on them. 

Well I wish I would have seen that before, what sort of sharpening stone are we talking? Something I can get off the shelf you think?

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John GlasseyMember since Jan 2014

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KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

Ok I can find something like that easily enough, thanks

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jeffmcmillanMember since Jun 2015

Glasseyi wrote:

4 hours ago, Glasseyi said:

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You really want a plate without speed holes for sharpening something that small.

https://www.amazon.com/DMT-D3F-3-Inch-Dia-Sharp-Sharpener/dp/B0001WP1J2/

John GlasseyMember since Jan 2014

Yeah I wouldn’t attempt to sharpen the hole hawg saw bit with the included diamond sharpener. I was being sarcastic when I said it swayed my decision lol. And then Knarlycarl wanted to,see it. Your right the one you highlighted is better but I feel skeptical of that as well. I would leave it up to a pro. 

jeffmcmillanMember since Jun 2015

Glasseyi wrote:

6 hours ago, Glasseyi said:

Yeah I wouldn’t attempt to sharpen the hole hawg saw bit with the included diamond sharpener. I was being sarcastic when I said it swayed my decision lol. And then Knarlycarl wanted to,see it. Your right the one you highlighted is better but I feel skeptical of that as well. I would leave it up to a pro. 

It’s a lot easier than most people think, but yeah you can do a lot of damage too.  Start on something you were going to throw away and if you can bring that back from the dead, touching up something else won’t be a problem.

BremonMember since Dec 2014

Great topic. I’m looking into getting a set of nice carbide hole saws, and I was almost sold on Bosch carbide. However, like most types of tools, the original innovator can be hard to top and with carbide hole saws like these that seems to be the Big Hawgs. Fairly pricy for a kit but the cost per hole and quality seem to be great in the end. 

KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

Bremon wrote:

On 8/28/2016 at 6:39 PM, Bremon said:

Great topic. I’m looking into getting a set of nice carbide hole saws, and I was almost sold on Bosch carbide. However, like most types of tools, the original innovator can be hard to top and with carbide hole saws like these that seems to be the Big Hawgs. Fairly pricy for a kit but the cost per hole and quality seem to be great in the end. 

I love using the hole saws such as the big hawgs, but just so you know, they aren’t actually carbide. They are hardened steel of sorts….?? That may be a good thing perhaps, as they might be less likely to chip off if running into a screw or nail.

Lenox has ones with a single carbide tooth. Bosch has their own similar to the Big Hawgs, but with carbide, haven’t tried them. 

Dewalt has their new hole saw meant for using with their new flexvolt stud drill, it has a self feed bit that pulls the carbide hole saw into the work. HOWEVER, toolaholic and I were having a lengthy discussion and he mentioned about how a pain it was to then pull the plug back out the dewalt holesaw because of something with how the centering spade bit “jams” the slug. 

“The tip punctures through, it grabs the slug because it self feeds until the holesaw makes it through”

“so what I was doing is i let the self feeding tip puncture through, then i speed the drill up, and push through the hole saw at the end, so the slug is loose” 

also

“the kerf on the flexvolt holesaw is about half [the width] of the milwaukee big hawg, so that’s how it’s getting more holes per charge” 

I mentioned how I was using a diamond sharpener and put the edge back on after hitting a nail, didn’t really inflict much damage on the teeth.

So there’s that

 

BremonMember since Dec 2014

Thanks Knarly! My mistake on the Big Hawgs. Still likely to go with them unless I find a killer deal on Bosch. Best prices seem to be on Big Hawgs. I understand the thin kerf/more holes strategy Dewalt is running with but I feel the thicker kerf might be an advantage for durability, and possibly popping plugs as mentioned. Might end up buying more batteries in the long run compared to FlexVolt accessories but it’s not like we are talking driver bits here; this stuff isn’t cheap either. 

jeffmcmillanMember since Jun 2015

The dewalt probably gets the plug stuck just because self feed doesn’t give time for the chips to clear.  You get the same problem with some augers that take longer to pull out of a log than they take to go through it.

Atlas2000Member since May 2014

Thanks for the video. Good to know what is good to buy, even better to know what NOT to buy!

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

Atlas2000 wrote:

Thanks for the video. Good to know what is good to buy, even better to know what NOT to buy!


You gotta share what doesn’t work out as much as what does


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KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

jeffmcmillan wrote:

The dewalt probably gets the plug stuck just because self feed doesn’t give time for the chips to clear.  You get the same problem with some augers that take longer to pull out of a log than they take to go through it.


Absolutely, excellent point. I bet a regular spade bit would work just as good drilling, but so much better at allowing the slug to pop out

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SlingShotToolsMember since Oct 2016

Thanks Jimbo!  Great Video.  I agree with the others, try using either Lenox or MK Morse hole saws.  You can’t go wrong with a professional tool.  But your video is perfect for depicting the cheaper brands.

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

SlingShotTools wrote:

Thanks Jimbo!  Great Video.  I agree with the others, try using either Lenox or MK Morse hole saws.  You can’t go wrong with a professional tool.  But your video is perfect for depicting the cheaper brands.


Thanks dude, I should have picked up Morse cobalt saws at menards on clearence, Milwaukee aren’t bad the hole dozers I get by with those


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