Huge M18 Batteries… Make 5.0 look Tiny

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olletsocmitMember since Apr 2016

Am I the only one that has noticed this? This is the second time I have seen a post about bigger M18 batteries. I thought my 5.0 batteries that came with my fuel set were huge  — Link: http://bit.ly/1OgbLJz

 

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krutonMember since Jun 2015

Yeah, I think they have been talking about them for a bit now. I’m not a Milwaukee cordless guy so I’m not sure if they are releasing yet. Some of the other guys will know. They look like some monsters though!

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JerryNYMember since Jun 2015

I might be wrong but I think XC, 4.0, 5.0 and 6.0 are all identical externally save for the markings. That photo you posted has a skewed perspective which makes them look a little different. The forthcoming 9.0 has an extra row of cells and will be significantly larger, fine for things like a mitersaw that sits in one place. I read somewhere the 6.0 and 9.0 will be available later this summer…

DaveJr.Member since Nov 2015

Can’t wait until DeWalt comes out with some larger capacity batteries.

DR99Member since Nov 2012

The XC through 6.0 Ah packs should be the same size for the most part. Milwaukee might have added a little move rubber over mold but nothing that drastic.

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

Yea the 6.0 looks about the same to me

Jimbo

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olletsocmitMember since Apr 2016

I think the 6 and 9’s will be great for the bigger lights too

krutonMember since Jun 2015

You can also use that giant battery pack to ward off muggers!

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KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

Heheh yup they didn’t have that then so they had to improvise

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krutonMember since Jun 2015

If only they would have had a 9.0 in that backpack!

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comp56Member since Sep 2014

JerryNY wrote:

1 hour ago, JerryNY said:

I might be wrong but I think XC, 4.0, 5.0 and 6.0 are all identical externally save for the markings. That photo you posted has a skewed perspective which makes them look a little different. The forthcoming 9.0 has an extra row of cells and will be significantly larger, fine for things like a mitersaw that sits in one place. I read somewhere the 6.0 and 9.0 will be available later this summer…

my  XC’s , 4.0’s and 5.0 batteries all seem to be identical and by the looks of the 6.0 it will be coming in the same housing…the 9.0 will be bigger however….

olletsocmitMember since Apr 2016

Yea I have all 5.0 battery’s right now. They seem to be plenty big enough and long lasting for me.

BremonMember since Dec 2014

The batteries in the OP picture are all the same size…the perspective is skewed. The new 9.0s will be bigger (if they ever get released). 

olletsocmitMember since Apr 2016

the 6.0 and 9.0 batteries were supposed to be out in stores January 2016 from what i have read and the video’s ….wtf is going on?

khariVMember since Dec 2014

olletsocmit wrote:

the 6.0 and 9.0 batteries were supposed to be out in stores January 2016 from what i have read and the video’s ….wtf is going on?

The 9.0s were intended to support the new SDS Max rotary hammer. The hammer hasn’t made it out of the gates so that’s why I’m guessing that the 9.0s are still awol.

VerktoolsMember since May 2016

Here in Norway the SDS Max rotary hammer (with 9.0 ah) have been on the market for a 1 month.

Hopefully its possible to buy only the batteries soon.

SDS Max w/9.0 ah batt.

 

“sale” priced for around 10.000 NKR which is about $1220

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

Yikes! You guys pay a lot for tools

Jimbo

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VerktoolsMember since May 2016

JimboS1ice wrote:

23 minutes ago, JimboS1ice said:

Yikes! You guys pay a lot for tools

Jimbo

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 I think its about the double of what the price in the US are for most of the Milwaukee tools, small market over here i guess….

But Milwaukee has started to get more and more popular here, so hopefully that will change.

jeffmcmillanMember since Jun 2015

So that would put it at about 610 USD?  If it’s all they claim that’s a pretty fair price.

olletsocmitMember since Apr 2016

Why the heck do dither countries get the tools first?  It’s weird …since they are a US company 

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

jeffmcmillan wrote:

1 hour ago, jeffmcmillan said:

So that would put it at about 610 USD?  If it’s all they claim that’s a pretty fair price.

 

Thats about expected retail right? 599ish

olletsocmitMember since Apr 2016

JimboS1ice wrote:

59 minutes ago, JimboS1ice said:

 

Thats about expected retail right? 599ish

does anyone know what the battery will cost alone or roughly?  actually more excited about the 6.0 one!  btw @JimboS1ice just wathcing your videos now, Best stuff out there!

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

olletsocmit wrote:

does anyone know what the battery will cost alone or roughly?  actually more excited about the 6.0 one!  btw @JimboS1ice just wathcing your videos now, Best stuff out there!

I’ve heard 199 to 249 and thanks dude

olletsocmitMember since Apr 2016

JimboS1ice wrote:

I’ve heard 199 to 249 and thanks dude

Wow do you think that price is fair? it seems like roughly $75-$100 plus over the 5.0 battery.

olletsocmitMember since Apr 2016

I think & can see myself getting a 6.0 for my drill and driver most likely when I need another battery, but I don’t know about a 9.0 ever

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

olletsocmit wrote:

I think & can see myself getting a 6.0 for my drill and driver most likely when I need another battery, but I don’t know about a 9.0 ever

For more portable tools I don’t thing the 9.0 has an advantage over 2 5.0 or 6.0 or maybe even 4.0 for the extra weight. The 9.0 is intended for their more heavy duty needs like a cordless mitersaw, mag drill, your less portable tools, no point in putting a 9.0 on a drill lol. But as we see different tools come out that are replacing corded stationary tools the 9.0 will be useful. Besides I’d rather have 1 9.0 on a Milwaukee tool than 2 5.0 on a Makita saw…

ChrisKMember since Dec 2012

Maybe for that new Milwaukee Fuel 18v miter saw too. But, I can’t see slapping a 9.0 on an impact gun or hammer. They’d probably be great in the flood lights too now that I think on it. Of course, this coming from a guy that owns an M12 charger. And a few Milwaukee tool bags 😉

 

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BremonMember since Dec 2014

9.0 on my sawzall or circular saw though? Yes please. I can definitely burn through batteries on the sawzall faster than they charge when I’m getting down to business. 

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

Bremon wrote:

8 minutes ago, Bremon said:

9.0 on my sawzall or circular saw though? Yes please. I can definitely burn through batteries on the sawzall faster than they charge when I’m getting down to business. 

I thought someone discussed a possible clearance issue with the 9.0 on a circ saw

BremonMember since Dec 2014

Clearance to what? That its length would hit your wrist or something? Only clearance issues in my mind are regarding the M18 vac and fan. 

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

Bremon wrote:

Clearance to what? That its length would hit your wrist or something? Only clearance issues in my mind are regarding the M18 vac and fan. 

Cleaernece to the work piece but my battery on my 6 1/2″ sits higher

jrk_indle84Member since May 2016

JimboS1ice wrote:

Cleaernece to the work piece but my battery on my 6 1/2″ sits higher

Hopefully that’s not the case, I’m wanting to pick couple of the 9.0 for 7 1/4 saw and the new fuel rotary hammer drill.

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JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

jrk_indle84 wrote:

Hopefully that’s not the case, I’m wanting to pick couple of the 9.0 for 7 1/4 saw and the new fuel rotary hammer drill.

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Me too dude

jrk_indle84Member since May 2016

JimboS1ice wrote:

Me too dude

Yea it had been awhile since owned a cordless circular saw and got the 7 1/4 right after it came out and have been impressed with just the 4.0 batteries. Wouldn’t haveta worry at all with the bigger batteries. Same with hammer drill.

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JerryNYMember since Jun 2015

JimboS1ice wrote:

1 hour ago, JimboS1ice said:

Cleaernece to the work piece but my battery on my 6 1/2″ sits higher

 

The 7 1/4 fuel lasts a LOOOONNNGG time on a 5 amp battery, it’ll last even longer on a 6.0 which will be the ideal battery for the saw. While I think there will be enough clearance for the 9 on the saw I’m not sure you need a huge battery on a one handed tool that already will last longer than you will for a day’s work, the only thing the 9 will add is fatigue on your arm for whipping it around cutting stuff. The 9’s will be great for beefier two handed tools or stationary tools like a miter or for lights where you switch them on and leave them be and want max run-time. I do hope it fits in the m18 vac though, I love that thing and use it all the time but it eats batteries like candy. I think the 9’s will fit in there though, the battery compartment is oversized so it can have connectors for both the M18 and the older nicads.

jrk_indle84Member since May 2016

I agree the 5’s or even the 6’s are plenty good for a days work. I’m hoping with the bigger batteries they’ll be able to last more than a day or two and won’t haveta drag the batteries home out of the job trailer every night. I do concrete work so usually the first ones on the job and there’s no power, so everything needs run off generator. So its nice having what we do use be cordless and not haveta drag drop cords and generator out. Don’t haveta use tools whole lot but it depends on the day and just kinda sucks taking all the batteries home every night. Only having few of the 4.0’s and one or two 5.0’s, rest are 3’s or compact, that’s what end up doin if burn through one that day. But depending on weather conditions no battery will probably last that long in the trailer. Also not really concerned about weight since nothing is over head. But we rip down alot of boards for bulkheads and sometimes forms and that drains the smaller batteries.

But maybe that’s all just wishful thinking ha. At end of the day it’s still battery operated. But now that started picking up certain tools the corded stuff is back up.

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BremonMember since Dec 2014

JimboS1ice wrote:

6 hours ago, JimboS1ice said:

Cleaernece to the work piece but my battery on my 6 1/2″ sits higher

Excellent point Jimbo. I just checked my saw out and now I’m on the fence as to whether or not it will work. Tough to say. 

JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

Bremon wrote:

Excellent point Jimbo. I just checked my saw out and now I’m on the fence as to whether or not it will work. Tough to say. 

I’d have to look at mine too depends how much bigger it is, I would assume roughly 1/3 depending on over molding.

BremonMember since Dec 2014

Slightly less than a third because the batteries are staggered, which is why it’s longer than the standard XC family. 

KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

khariV wrote:

The 9.0s were intended to support the new SDS Max rotary hammer. The hammer hasn’t made it out of the gates so that’s why I’m guessing that the 9.0s are still awol.

What I don’t get is why the need for sds max when spline drive are about the same size at the base, and would interchange with corded spline drive hammers

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JimboS1iceMember since Sep 2015

KnarlyCarl wrote:

What I don’t get is why the need for sds max when spline drive are about the same size at the base, and would interchange with corded spline drive hammers

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I think it had something to do with different companies when they first came out to compete with spline drive, a while ago a read an article that talked about the differences and SDS competed with Spline. Kind of like when HD DVD battled Blu-Ray… Around by me I don’t see hardly any spline.

StercorariusMember since Dec 2015

JimboS1ice wrote:

1 hour ago, JimboS1ice said:

I think it had something to do with different companies when they first came out to compete with spline drive, a while ago a read an article that talked about the differences and SDS competed with Spline. Kind of like when HD DVD battled Blu-Ray… Around by me I don’t see hardly any spline.

Same, no spline drives here. In fact the only place that has bits that big is the case dealership and they are all SDS max Hiltis.

KnarlyCarlMember since Jan 2016

Thats quite interesting. .. there are no sds max bits here, all spline

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StercorariusMember since Dec 2015

I think it is mostly due to the fact that Hiltis are all SDS style and even Bosch doesn’t offer spline for the most powerful rotohammers. 

JspeedMember since Apr 2016

Yea that 9.0 battery is gunna be a beast. Pretty soon you will be able to drive your car with one lol

tottobjerMember since Jan 2016

Stercorarius wrote:

I think it is mostly due to the fact that Hiltis are all SDS style and even Bosch doesn’t offer spline for the most powerful rotohammers. 

Spline is not te be seen in shops any more here in northern europe. I think its 4 years since a customer asked about it.

kornomaniacMember since Oct 2014

Indeed. Spline is dead here 🙂

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