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I see that Makita have an app in the Play Store that can set it’s batteries to disable in case they are stolen… It’s kind of interesting rather than really useful… But I can’t find any reference to any of their products being NFC capable…
Are all the batteries NFC?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.makita.nfc.powertools
The app has been on there for months. I installed it and posted about it on my instagram in November last year trying to fish for information but all I’ve found out so far is the newer ‘B’ indicator batteries are hiding technology that could communicate via NFC, however I’ve tried a few different devices and from what I can gather, an intermediate device is needed from Makita to activate it. Some of the US tool boxes include documentation about this but no one I’ve spoken to seems to know anything about this device or how the technology works in practice.
See attached, from US Market.
Very interesting find. Never heard of this before
I’ve been digging further and a patent application has been made by Makita JPN for a new device that could potentially double as a new style charger but in the description it mentions the use of a pass code to disable the use of the battery and the logic process requests a secondary auth code to operate the tool, so this could be the controller.
Got a link to that man ? 🙂
kornomaniac wrote:
Just now, kornomaniac said:Got a link to that man ? 🙂
http://images1.freshpatents.com/imageviewer/20170062877-p20170062877
stductwork wrote:
5 hours ago, stductwork said:
Is this similar to the Bosch system they have fielded in Europe?
First time hearing about this
ChrisK wrote:
4 hours ago, ChrisK said:Is this similar to the Bosch system they have fielded in Europe?
What Bosch system is that? Last time I’d taken a Bosch battery apart the technology was so primitive I was surprised it lasted as long as it did.
kornomaniac wrote:
14 hours ago, kornomaniac said:Very interesting find. Never heard of this before
It’s been developed for the US market. It’s called sync lock and need adapter to put on the battery. The sync lock information is on the side of the new sub compact stuff being sold in the US. I spoken with a USA makita rep recently while I was in the US and the adapter isn’t out yet. I’ve asked my local makita Australia rep and was told it’s unlikely come to Australia
“Programmable batteries and power tools that enable the user to set date and time intervals to disable the battery and prevent unauthorized use of the power tools”
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I first heard about this at a Makita Expo in June last year. At that we were shown pictures of a new charger that would work on existing batteries to basically turn them on and off at certain times. Surprised it still hasn’t been released, and clearly not made just for the US.
I just found the original thread I posted about this in
I checked with my Makita Rep here in belgium and from april on he ‘should’ be able to tell me more 🙂
Tool Lover 69 wrote:
7 hours ago, Tool Lover 69 said:I first heard about this at a Makita Expo in June last year. At that we were shown pictures of a new charger that would work on existing batteries to basically turn them on and off at certain times. Surprised it still hasn’t been released, and clearly not made just for the US.
Word from a makita Australia R&D rep was that it wasn’t coming to Australia any time soon
Tool Lover 69 wrote:
7 hours ago, Tool Lover 69 said:I first heard about this at a Makita Expo in June last year. At that we were shown pictures of a new charger that would work on existing batteries to basically turn them on and off at certain times. Surprised it still hasn’t been released, and clearly not made just for the US.
Apparently the technology is already in star makita batteries
Tool Lover 69 wrote:
7 hours ago, Tool Lover 69 said:I just found the original thread I posted about this in
Interesting it’s a charger, what did it look like ?
The sub compact kit I picked up in the US had the below information on the side sync lock controller
I’m gonna try ordering one tomorrow
Interesting. I never see them talk about this technology. Would be nice to know it’s out there.
not sure about this. I would’ve thought it would make more sense to allow the battery to connect to the app with bluetooth?
Jronman wrote:
On 24/08/2017 at 4:35 AM, Jronman said:not sure about this. I would’ve thought it would make more sense to allow the battery to connect to the app with bluetooth?
Encryption wouldn’t work well. It’s easy to lose or break a cell phone as you tend to throw them about and use them all the time. Once that unique encryption key is gone your battery is useless. Having a dedicated single device will have a central point with a lower risk of failure.
@SchenzhenSpecial Would the tool be tied to the phone or tied to the account? If it is tied to an account, you could essentially log into the app from any device and should be able to unlock your tool.
Jronman wrote:
5 minutes ago, Jronman said:@SchenzhenSpecial Would the tool be tied to the phone or tied to the account? If it is tied to an account, you could essentially log into the app from any device and should be able to unlock your tool.
It’s tied to the BPS device which in turn is controlled by the phone/computer. You can control the BPS device with any other device but it is that which would remain unique to the batteries; or at least that’s my understanding.