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I watched Dan’s video on the 7 1/4 miter saw when he was in Charlotte at the Dewalt event and the product manager Jeff said no comment when Dan asked him if a 10 inch 20v saw was coming! Do you guys think there is any truth to this?
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npcnj8 wrote:
I watched Dan’s video on the 7 1/4 miter saw when he was in Charlotte at the Dewalt event and the product manager Jeff said no comment when Dan asked him if a 10 inch 20v saw was coming! Do you guys think there is any truth to this?
I think it’s only a matter of time before one of the big brands comes out with a 10″ cordless miter. My money was on either Milwaukee or Bosch. Think Makita missed the mark with the 2-18v lxt 71/4 saw, but don’t count them out. I would love to see Dewalt have a 20v 10″ miter. But I think they go 40v. My two cents.
Glasseyi wrote:
I think it’s only a matter of time before one of the big brands comes out with a 10″ cordless miter. My money was on either Milwaukee or Bosch. Think Makita missed the mark with the 2-18v lxt 71/4 saw, but don’t count them out. I would love to see Dewalt have a 20v 10″ miter. But I think they go 40v. My two cents.
Agreed!
I know I would love to see it. I almost bought the Dewalt 7-1/4 but I would like to get that extra capacity of a 10″ blade. Honestly I will probably buy which ever brand comes out with it first. I’m thinking it might be Milwaukee, I think 2016 could be interesting with them.
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I think most of the brands want people to think its just over the horizon to encourage brand loyalty. After all the future of a battery platform means as much if not more than its current status. Milwaukee was proud of their 3/4 inch jump in blade size to a 7 1/4 circ saw and now we want a 2 3/4 inch jump in blade size? Sure a miter requires a bit less power but I think a 10 inch cordless is farther off than people think and one with decent power is even farther. Hopefully someone proves me wrong though. I want one as much as anyone else.
Good chance it would be brushless
Jimbo
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Only time will tell..
haha, bit&$! Did you hear? no teasing on this forum!KWC wrote:
Only time will tell..
That is what I was thinkingJimbos1ice wrote:
Good chance it would be brushless
Jimbo
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To me the success or failure is in engineering the motor to be behind the blade, which means gearing and a belt. The reason being is having a 10in blade without double bevel is rather worthless, and the current design with the direct to motor housing isn’t going to cut it. It’s kind of like having 3 arms and 1 leg.
Unfortunately gears and belts cause parasitic loss which means less power or RPM, compensated by larger motor and more weight and reduced battery life.
That’s a lot to overcome in a cordless platform.
Nope didn’t hearGlasseyi wrote:
haha, bit&$! Did you hear? no teasing on this forum!
20 years ago we could only dream of the cordless tools we have at our finger tips today…..as it is they will overcome obstacles they always do eventually……
I think the High Capacity 9.0ah battery from Milwaukee is what will make a 10 inch sliding miter a possibility.
Yes I agree with you Jasonc. 9.0 or something like that? Hehe.
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I would have never dreamed there would be battery powered lawn mowers that could actually do a good job cutting grass and not run out of juice in thirty seconds. It’s just a matter of time before there is a 10″ cordless miter saw.comp56 wrote:
20 years ago we could only dream of the cordless tools we have at our finger tips today…..as it is they will overcome obstacles they always do eventually……
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Jasonc wrote:
I think the High Capacity 9.0ah battery from Milwaukee is what will make a 10 inch sliding miter a possibility.
Total amp Capacity isn’t really what we need. We need a battery that can provide a higher total current without overheating or building up internal resistance because of too high current draw.
Milwaukee’s 9.0 Amp battery has 3 rows of cells to provide current so it’s a good step up from our normal 4 / 5 / 6 amp packs ( which can only provide current from 2 rows of cells ).
Makita’s dual 18V system ramps it up easily by providing 4 Rows of cells to draw current from.
kornomaniac wrote:
Total amp Capacity isn’t really what we need. We need a battery that can provide a higher total current without overheating or building up internal resistance because of too high current draw.
Milwaukee’s 9.0 Amp battery has 3 rows of cells to provide current so it’s a good step up from our normal 4 / 5 / 6 amp packs ( which can only provide current from 2 rows of cells ).
Makita’s dual 18V system ramps it up easily by providing 4 Rows of cells to draw current from.
i always wondered if Dewalts 40v packs would make its way over from OPE… This would be a great task for one
shhhh nothing to see here 🙂
My first cordless miter saw was a ryobi. It was so underpowered, I swore I would never buy another one. But now as more and more tools become cordless, we r getting far more superior tools. Hell I had a ryobi cordless chainsaw and felt the same way, but now I would like to get my hands on dewalts chainsaw.
My first cordless miter saw was a ryobi. It was so underpowered, I swore I would never buy another one. But now as more and more tools become cordless, we r getting far more superior tools. Hell I had a ryobi cordless chainsaw and felt the same way, but now I would like to get my hands on dewalts chainsaw.
i love my dewalt 7 1/4 cordless miter… def no issues with power yet.
Jasonc wrote:
I think the High Capacity 9.0ah battery from Milwaukee is what will make a 10 inch sliding miter a possibility.
Yeah it seems a bigger heavier pack might have more stationary largish tools in mind as well.
kornomaniac wrote:
Total amp Capacity isn’t really what we need. We need a battery that can provide a higher total current without overheating or building up internal resistance because of too high current draw.
Milwaukee’s 9.0 Amp battery has 3 rows of cells to provide current so it’s a good step up from our normal 4 / 5 / 6 amp packs ( which can only provide current from 2 rows of cells ).
Makita’s dual 18V system ramps it up easily by providing 4 Rows of cells to draw current from.
All true but then again Milwaukee could go 2xbattery on a miter and even allow 2x9Ah giving 6 rows of cells. There is nothing stopping them from doing it but might be bulky, then again a miter is probably the most sensical of tools to double up on batteries because of its static nature…
I’m sure Makita has a patent on their 2×18 set up.
Jimbo
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JerryNY wrote:
All true but then again Milwaukee could go 2xbattery on a miter and even allow 2x9Ah giving 6 rows of cells. There is nothing stopping them from doing it but might be bulky, then again a miter is probably the most sensical of tools to double up on batteries because of its static nature…
If milwaukee made a dual 9.0amp setup for stationairy tools that would give us ALOT of options !
Jimbos1ice wrote:
I’m sure Makita has a patent on their 2×18 set up.
Jimbo
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I don’t think so really. Black and decker had dual batery tools YEARS ago. Festool has the dual battery saw on the guide rail. Don’t think a simple concept like ‘ add a second battery’ should be able to be patented anyway in my opinion.
kornomaniac wrote:
If milwaukee made a dual 9.0amp setup for stationairy tools that would give us ALOT of options !
I don’t think so really. Black and decker had dual batery tools YEARS ago. Festool has the dual battery saw on the guide rail. Don’t think a simple concept like ‘ add a second battery’ should be able to be patented anyway in my opinion.
Good to know, I was thinking of the more advanced circuitry part of it, it’s a good option if they can do it.
Jimbo
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