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So we’ve gotten a taste of what’s coming next year from Dewalt XR with the awesome looking planar. What else do we think we’ll see as the 20v line is extended? There’s not a lot missing that I’d look forward too. I’d like a cordless tire pump, small brad nailer (20ish gauge), higher Ah batteries, and a cordless router are about what I need, but I’m sure I’m missing something…
Thoughts?
maybe just upgraded versions of there current recip and circular saws. Then there line up will be pretty solid and on par with competitors.Hugh Jass wrote:
So we’ve gotten a taste of what’s coming next year from Dewalt XR with the awesome looking planar. What else do we think we’ll see as the 20v line is extended? There’s not a lot missing that I’d look forward too. I’d like a cordless tire pump, small brad nailer (20ish gauge), higher Ah batteries, and a cordless router are about what I need, but I’m sure I’m missing something…
Thoughts?
Turner85 wrote:
maybe just upgraded versions of there current recip and circular saws. Then there line up will be pretty solid and on par with competitors.
Yeah im hoping for a regular 7 1/4 blade circular saw instead of the 6 1/2. the Recip saw needs a lot of work too imo, i dont much like the one i have. Im also hoping for more large cordless tools like their miter saw.
I’d love a cordless brad nailer and trim router as well so I’ll jump on that bandwagon. Personally I’d like to see a 20V caulk gun and sander.
Hatter512 wrote:
Yeah im hoping for a regular 7 1/4 blade circular saw instead of the 6 1/2. the Recip saw needs a lot of work too imo, i dont much like the one i have. Im also hoping for more large cordless tools like their miter saw.
Yea, I have the compact Recip and it’s garbage. The original 18v was a better tool. This thing literally does more damage to the operator than the material. Using it I can look down and watch my skin defy physics, and I’m about 3% body fat.
I’d probably pick up a XR grinder too. I love my grinder but if you push it, it will eat batteries faster than any other tool. I can smoke a 5ah in that thing in 3 minutes.
Recips are a pain in general. Don’t like ’em. Probably never will. Can’t stand the vibration it transfers to your arms.
I think they should look into adding AVC in their recip saws. And not in the handle, but between the housing and the reciprocating mechanism. Kinda like they do with their cordless sds drills. Think that could make a difference. Perform&Protect!
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7 1/4 circular saw new brushless recip saw brushless angle grinder and planer are all on my wish list from team yellow I know the planers coming out but the rest are what I’m looking forward to.
Brushless circular saw. I was going to say a portable planer but that’s been taken care of!!!
Mr. Yellow wrote:
Recips are a pain in general. Don’t like ’em. Probably never will. Can’t stand the vibration it transfers to your arms.
I think they should look into adding AVC in their recip saws. And not in the handle, but between the housing and the reciprocating mechanism. Kinda like they do with their cordless sds drills. Think that could make a difference. Perform&Protect!
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Not all are created equal, but I agree. I have a dinosaur corded porter cable Tiger Saw that runs like a sewing machine compared to Dewalt. Better trigger, better shoe, better ergonomics, and it cuts about 4x as fast with practically no vibration in comparison…it just has a damn cord (which I hate), and it’s heavy…but what a difference. Only thing the Dewalt really has going for it is the easier blade change, but the stupid lever flops around all over the place because of the vibration and poorly engineered design (no spring…why?). It’s also underpowered which I also believe leads to more punishment on the user because it’s too slow to force blade motion with the short stroke length which means the tool is moving your arm and not the blade.
I truly feel as though it’s the worst tool in the entire lineup. Like you said AVC and/or more mass would improve it as well as more power. There’s so many ways to make it a much more refined and pleasant tool.
Hugh Jass wrote:
Not all are created equal, but I agree. I have a dinosaur corded porter cable Tiger Saw that runs like a sewing machine compared to Dewalt. Better trigger, better shoe, better ergonomics, and it cuts about 4x as fast with practically no vibration in comparison…it just has a damn cord (which I hate), and it’s heavy…but what a difference. Only thing the Dewalt really has going for it is the easier blade change, but the stupid lever flops around all over the place because of the vibration and poorly engineered design (no spring…why?). It’s also underpowered which I also believe leads to more punishment on the user because it’s too slow to force blade motion with the short stroke length which means the tool is moving your arm and not the blade.
I truly feel as though it’s the worst tool in the entire lineup. Like you said AVC and/or more mass would improve it as well as more power. There’s so many ways to make it a much more refined and pleasant tool.
This is why I think the M18 Fuel sawzall does better a more powerful motor plus more weight. I think its usually a pound heavier than most other brands saws and makes a big difference. The old non fuel sawzall worked but wasn’t that great either the fuel was a huge improvement from the previous model
Yea, some tools don’t benefit at all by shaving too much weight.
yup just cause they come out with a new model doesn’t always mean better……..I got some old stuff that you just can’t beat…..don’t look as nice but takes a lickin and keeps on tickin……
I would like to see the following brushless tools from Dewalt if only for the innovation that completion brings: circ saw, recip, grinder and jigsaw (barrel grip). In addition to the Dewalt 20v platform I am invested in Makita 18v, so most of the bases are already covered for me (or will be by the early part of next year), but it would be nice to have choices for those brushless tools I don’t have yet.
I think Dewalt reciprocating saws are some of the worst as far as vibration but I have no idea what the problem is. Pressing the shoe against a stable workpiece with some dewalt saws feels like I’m cutting mid-blade and throwing my weight into another saw.
The only good use for a cordless dewalt reciprocating saw is vibrating concrete forms.
in the dewalt’s defence, it is more powerful than anything bar the fuel, and the 4 way blade holder is good feature.
jeffmcmillan wrote:
I think Dewalt reciprocating saws are some of the worst as far as vibration but I have no idea what the problem is. Pressing the shoe against a stable workpiece with some dewalt saws feels like I’m cutting mid-blade and throwing my weight into another saw.
The only good use for a cordless dewalt reciprocating saw is vibrating concrete forms.
lol. No concrete vibrator needed.
I also just thought of this i want to see from dewalt…. a working website! both on chrome and FF their site sucks. Always crashes and takes forever to load
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i also find their website clunky.
Positive placement nailer please
Imo the recip saw would be a great thing to upgrade. I used it again today and always with I had the fuel. Everyone is brushless now and they gotta step up their saw game.
dano_uk wrote:
Positive placement nailer please
Given they just released the 16g nailer without this feature, I think you’ll be waiting a while. I do find the placement on the 16g to be very predictable though, I’d say I’m accurate to within a mm or two.
Given the rate at which the links posted here are taken down, I’d find it hard to imagine this isn’t the monitored source of leaks from Dewalt. Clearly they don’t want anyone to know about this one yet.
^…how in the hell did that post jump from the planar thread to here?!
They say that tins is coming out in the second quarter 2016.
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A grinder with a standard lock-on design. As much as I like Dewalt I think their grinder in unwieldy and cumbersome, especially in the tight spots are smaller more precise guts that I use a cordless grinder for. Every other brand Makita, Milwaukee, Bosch, HItachi, Hilti… puts out a more compact cordless which you can use with one hand or change your grip if required to get into a tight spot, Dewalt makes an unwieldy behemoth of a grinder that really limits the ways it can be held and used and isnt even particularly powerful. It is one of the only 20V max tools i refuse to buy.
Thats my rant lol;)
But seriously, please Dewalt put out a standard grinder design. If its so dangerous why can you make a much more powerfull corded grinders in the standard small grinder configuration I would buy one tomorrow
zinzander wrote:
A grinder with a standard lock-on design. As much as I like Dewalt I think their grinder in unwieldy and cumbersome, especially in the tight spots are smaller more precise guts that I use a cordless grinder for. Every other brand Makita, Milwaukee, Bosch, HItachi, Hilti… puts out a more compact cordless which you can use with one hand or change your grip if required to get into a tight spot, Dewalt makes an unwieldy behemoth of a grinder that really limits the ways it can be held and used and isnt even particularly powerful. It is one of the only 20V max tools i refuse to buy.
Thats my rant lol;)
But seriously, please Dewalt put out a standard grinder design. If its so dangerous why can you make a much more powerfull corded grinders in the standard small grinder configuration I would buy one tomorrow
I disagree. I love the grinder, but a brushless upgrade is definitely needed to support battery life. Anywhere it doesn’t go, I use a oscillating multi tool instead.
I can’t stand the Dewalt grinder style. The only way to do a one handed cut is to lock the trigger on with a rubber band and hold it by the auxiliary handle.
any other rumors? possibly a 7 1/4 brushless saw i hope!
jeffmcmillan wrote:
I can’t stand the Dewalt grinder style. The only way to do a one handed cut is to lock the trigger on with a rubber band and hold it by the auxiliary handle.
…the hell, are you using your feet?
I would like to see a portable 20v table saw Nothing huge just something big enough to cut doors and plywood and a 20v router would be great
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How about an air compressor that runs off of 20v rechargeable battery? Not for air tools but for car and bike tires, inflatable toys. Bonus points if I can use a blow gun with it.
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pasty wrote:
How about an air compressor that runs off of 20v rechargeable battery? Not for air tools but for car and bike tires, inflatable toys. Bonus points if I can use a blow gun with it.
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Ryobi makes cordless inflators
Jimbo
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Not that sturdy.
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No not sturdy but better than nothing
Jimbo
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3/8 brushless impact wrench would be nice along with a right angle impact wrench. Definitely a +1 on the brushless saws and grinders. Love my yellow one but I might have to pick up a fuel if they don’t get with the program.
. AGREE!!Stercorarius wrote:
3/8 brushless impact wrench would be nice along with a right angle impact wrench. Definitely a +1 on the brushless saws and grinders. Love my yellow one but I might have to pick up a fuel if they don’t get with the program.
Bigmikez wrote:
. AGREE!!
Not hard to swap out chucks Mike takes about 10 minutes.
Stercorarius wrote:
3/8 brushless impact wrench would be nice along with a right angle impact wrench. Definitely a +1 on the brushless saws and grinders. Love my yellow one but I might have to pick up a fuel if they don’t get with the program.
A while back I swapped the chuck for a 3/8″ square drive on a DCF886, thing works like a charm.
http://professional-power-tool-guide.com/power-tool-forum/index.php?/topic/7801-dewalt-20v-38-impact-wrench/
That’s sweet! Right now I’ve been using that same driver with a 3/8 adaptor as my small impact since I really do still have to have a drill and there’s not enough power. It makes 125 ft/lbs iirc (152 ish ft/lbs for gen 2) and the actual impact wrench brushed is 150ftlbs 1/2 compqct, 130 for the 3/8, 200 for the one they made for Mac tools, and then Milwaukees fuels are astep above all that. I’d like to see a step above Milwaukee because that 125 ft lbs doesn’t work on a lot of fasteners but the small size can get in where the big gun can’t. IMHO I think that 250 ft lbs would be just about right.Jimbos1ice wrote:
A while back I swapped the chuck for a 3/8″ square drive on a DCF886, thing works like a charm.
http://professional-power-tool-guide.com/power-tool-forum/index.php?/topic/7801-dewalt-20v-38-impact-wrench/
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I don’t see how I initially missed the video, but I just watched Dan and Eric’s review if the B&D 20v glue gun and would love to see something like that in conjunction with the caulk gun already mentioned.
Was thinking about it, they answered to milwaukees gen 2 impact, I want a more powerful hammer drill now
Jimbo
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Knowing DeWalt I’m sure you will see that. Want to help you spend your money.
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i doubt there will be a full-size hammer drill update this year.
I would like to see the expansion of the 12v line, and also the T-Stak stuff. Feel like those 2 product lines got put out, then left out to dry.
when the dewalt 12v line came out i was all over it, ive now sold it and gone m12 fuel due to the dewalt line not moving forward. shame as the dewalt grip is like a glove.
as for new tools id love a powerful brushless angle drill/ hole hawg, a cooling fan, table top tile saw and maybe batts like the black and deka with a usb port in the top.
Has anyone found any benefit to the bluetooth batteries that Dewalt offers?
T75R wrote:
Has anyone found any benefit to the bluetooth batteries that Dewalt offers?
Welcome to the forum, from a single contractors perspective no, one key is more promising.
Jimbo
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Thanks Jimbo, I’m no contractor. Just a regular do it yourselfer and was confused on what the benefits could possibly be. Thanks for the welcome 😉
Really the only place i see those batterys being any real use is in a metal shops or somthing were you work with the same materials every day. For the torque and speed settings and stuff like that on the plus one. I really have no use for it on a job site. They would slow down production more than helping. That’s what I’ve seen and think. Other people mite disagree.T75R wrote:
Thanks Jimbo, I’m no contractor. Just a regular do it yourselfer and was confused on what the benefits could possibly be. Thanks for the welcome 😉
Millerz
This will give you the answer..T75R wrote:
Has anyone found any benefit to the bluetooth batteries that Dewalt offers?
