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Who’s going to pickup the 20V adapter when they come out.
I’m thinking about it, I have a drill and a circular saw that are still in good shape.
Get the adapter and use the batteries from my new drill and have a great spare for projects when you talk you buddy into coming over to help out.
My uncle is going to the states over Xmas so I’m hoping he can pick me up a couple , I have the only 18v plunge saw I want to start using again , my dad still has all the old stick batterys so want to get him one as well , be good to know when you guy see them and where , he’s going to Colorado
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You might want to check if your tool is compatible before you buy it. Some tools are not working like the cordless nail guns.
I didn’t know that , good to know
Is there a list somewhere ?
For me it’s just the plunge saw
My old man has selection of drills , impact , grinder and jigsaw
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I gotta get one of these for my gramps he will love to extend the life of his 18v’s
Dewalt is supposed to have a list but it isn’t on their site yet. http://www.dewalt.com/tools/cordless-batteries-dca2203c.aspx
18v Tools that won’t accept the adapter:
- Nailers
- Radios
- Chargers
- DC020 & DC022 Lights
- Generators
- Vac & Lasers (will work but the doors won’t close)
- Earlier model 18v band saws (don’t have a date code yet)
What generators used 18v batteries? Was it for electric start or something?
Gatorb888 wrote:
18v Tools that won’t accept the adapter:
- Nailers
- Radios
- Chargers
- DC020 & DC022 Lights
- Generators
- Vac & Lasers (will work but the doors won’t close)
- Earlier model 18v band saws (don’t have a date code yet)
Heh, so basically all the tools they really want you to buy in 20v. lol.
Jasonc wrote:
What generators used 18v batteries? Was it for electric start or something?
Yep, electric start.
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Price seems a little high but interesting that they are releasing kits.
Jimbo
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I just saw the Tia video on this. I’d get it if I had the 18v tools but….I don’t. I think it’s totally worth it though. Awesome innovation from what was arguably a big mistake from Dewalt. Those guys are picking up and helping their customers out with this one!
that a great deal the adapter 2 batteries and a charger for $149
Great move by Dewalt.
Might be worth it just because of how many 18v tools that are laying around gathering dust in people’s garages that you could get for free/dirt cheap
These don’t work with any 20v battery right?
Stercorarius wrote:
These don’t work with any 20v battery right?
Yea I think only the 2.0s, I don’t think any of the higher ah packs work by don’t quote me.
Jimbo
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Do you guys know what the XRP was running for Ah on their old Nicad?
chrisk wrote:
Do you guys know what the XRP was running for Ah on their old Nicad?
I think I’ve seen that, maybe the tool can only handle a single row of lithium batteries, I would imagine has something to do with electronics and over load.
Jimbo
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That’s what I’m wondering Jimbo, if what you said is correct it might simply be the electronics in the older tools might not be able to handle the higher Amps?
chrisk wrote:
That’s what I’m wondering Jimbo, if what you said is correct it might simply be the electronics in the older tools might not be able to handle the higher Amps?
Probably don’t have the ability to limit the draw on the battery and prevent overload of the tool.
Jimbo
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Thats what Im thinking too. Regardless this is a really cool option for the guys running the older tools!
You can usually pick up the older tools pretty cheap too, they had the xrp circular saw for 60 bucks at HD for a while to clear out their stock.
Jimbo
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I think that the old xrp packs were either 2.2 or 2.4 amp hours. It probably has something to do with the higher amp draw with the 4.0 or higher packs.
I have had two of these for months you can use any amp hour 20v(2-3-4-5ah) battery with them in the tools they work on.
jrs5565 wrote:
I have had two of these for months you can use any amp hour 20v(2-3-4-5ah) battery with them in the tools they work on.
No over heating of the tool, here their website advises not to use their premium batteries which are their higher amperage.
The local HD did not have them, so it looks like I’m going to have to go to the net for one.
I’m seeing $39 so far for the adapter alone.
Anyone seeing anything cheaper?
John
I’ll get one after they get to be old news and lower the price. Or go on a good sale. I’m a little bit tight on money.
Millerz
Jimbos1ice wrote:
No over heating of the tool, here their website advises not to use their premium batteries which are their higher amperage.
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That only warns about not using them on 2 lower range drills. No problems with the 29oz adhesive spreader/old grinder/old higher end drills. Truth is I would burn these old tools up to keep from toting a case of old batteries. They need a new29oz adhesive tool on the 20v.
I wouldn’t say its a big mistake. Almost All companies with the exception of Ryobi have changed their batteries over the years. Dewalt had a lot more tools out there and so we hear more complaints but change is a good thing. I mean they still sell the stick batteries which most other companies can’t say so its not like they left customers high and dry.
the old XRP batteries were running at 2.4 ah if i’m not mistaken.
Several of the items that were listed had doors for battery retention/covers, the vacuums and radios come to mind (they would run off 12, 14.4 and 18 volts, just shorter run times). As for chargers a lot of the 18V chargers that came with kits would not charge the lithium 18 volt batteries. The rule of thumb for the 18 V line is a black charger can charge the older standard and XRP packs and the yellow chargers can charge both NiCd and Lithium.
I am pretty well situated for now in 18 volt batteries with 5 XRPs and 2 Lithiums right now. I will probably eventually get the adapter to use with some of my lesser used tools that only have a little use on them.
jrs5565 wrote:
That only warns about not using them on 2 lower range drills. No problems with the 29oz adhesive spreader/old grinder/old higher end drills. Truth is I would burn these old tools up to keep from toting a case of old batteries. They need a new29oz adhesive tool on the 20v.
That’s a tool I can’t believe Dewalt hasn’t done a 20v max version and also how long it took for the finish nailer to come out.
William S wrote:
I wouldn’t say its a big mistake. Almost All companies with the exception of Ryobi have changed their batteries over the years. Dewalt had a lot more tools out there and so we hear more complaints but change is a good thing. I mean they still sell the stick batteries which most other companies can’t say so its not like they left customers high and dry.
That is true. It just goes to show you how big the XRP lineup was, and how many people used it. The adapter is nice as its hard to find lithium batteries and if you do they are not cheap for the old 18v tools.
For what it is worth; I received one of these adapters from Tool-nut after the initial release, before Dewalt delayed future deliveries last November. The adapter does work with four and five amp hour batteries, at least it worked on the two drill type tools I still owned with those battery sizes. However, the adapter will definitely not work with any of their cordless nail guns due to a problem with the electronics on the flywheel of the guns. As it currently stands, there is no fix, and it is assumed that there will not be any planned attempt to fix this problem on the adapter.
I spent a few emails asking questions and making comments about the adapter with someone at Tool-nut, and they sent me a UPS return label and offered a refund, without my asking for one. I had originally pre-ordered the adapter, prior to the known issue of the nail guns being released, for the primary purpose of extending the life of the three cordless guns I currently own. Tool-nut was not aware of the issue up until this past week when our correspondence took place. I was informed that they planned on updating their site to reflect the issue.
The end result is that I do not believe that Dewalt has done their best to inform both the end users and their distributors of any limitations this tool may exhibit. They really need to step up their game in this area. It would save time, money and frustration for all involved.
Yea they should have a comparability list
Jimbo
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It’s about time but just like DeWalt to be late to the game. All of those tools I had are long gone and have been replaced by the red team. Now that think about it have some yellow working their way back it to the line up.
When they get around to actually putting tools out team yellow does a heck of a job Regopit, not wonder your seeing this slight influx.
Stopped into my local Acme Tool yesterday and picked up a couple of items.
I asked them if they had any of the adapters yet and they said no, they were not going to get them until DeWalt “fixed the problem with them”.
According to them, DeWalt is still having overheating problems with them.
For what it’s worth.
John
Amazon had them with a delivery of “one or two months” a couple of days ago as a stand alone , but now they are shown as
Currently unavailable.
We don’t know when or if this item will be back in stock
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But as of the time of this post, the complete set of batteries, charger and adapter was available:
I guess I got lucky and got one from Amazon during the small window they were for sale a few weeks ago. Shipping was estimated for the middle of March, but it arrived today.
I want to get one
sgand wrote:
1 hour ago, sgand said:I guess I got lucky and got one from Amazon during the small window they were for sale a few weeks ago. Shipping was estimated for the middle of March, but it arrived today.
Hey there, welcome to the forum, what’s going on, what do you do for a livelihood ? What are you going to use that adapter on?
wow, it looks like you will be adding two batteries[in size] to bottom of tool
JimboS1ice wrote:
On 1/26/2016 at 9:32 AM, JimboS1ice said:I think I’ve seen that, maybe the tool can only handle a single row of lithium batteries, I would imagine has something to do with electronics and over load.
Jimbo
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Capacity should have no effect on the Voltage or Current draw.
I got an email last night from Dewalt that they are now available.
I’ve got one , it’s not the Dewalt one , but works brilliant, so pleased to have my stock plunge saw back on the van
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what 18v xrp you can still buy, they are made in Baltimore MD USA for service call 1 800-4-Dewalt www.Dewalt .com that’s what they say on bottom of battery just bought new pair, dec 2016 they are stamped 2016. and you don’t have to pay the price of a 20v. if it not broke don’t fix just maintain.