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This is a water heater set up I plumbed. It took a little time to get everything to work out. It turned out pretty good in the end though.
It was in a medical clinic so the engineer spec’d some things that seemed a little excessive.
Before being done
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The water meter, backflow preventer, and PRV set up
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Wow, that is some crazy looking work just for a water heater, but commercial plumbing is way different than residential. How do you like the pro press tool? I would love to have one but don’t do enough plumbing to justify it.
That’s some great work.
Man that’s some crazy good lookin work u did there.
nothing better then when you when you walk in to a house and in the utility room all the plumbing and electrical is nicely and neatly organized on the wall. its a true work of art.
That is beautiful, nice job
Nice work man,that looks like it would have taken some time.
awesome work, seems like more money for the copper piping and all the fittings than the heater…..quit small looking heater….
DR99 wrote:
Wow, that is some crazy looking work just for a water heater, but commercial plumbing is way different than residential. How do you like the pro press tool? I would love to have one but don’t do enough plumbing to justify it.
The pro press tool works great, Milwaukee M18. It crimps 1/2 – 2” with the included jaws. It saved a lot of time and hassle on this job. The M12 one would be nice for the less weight and tighter fits. This job had 1/2 – 1 1/4″ , but we do floor heat systems that many times has up to 2″.
comp56 wrote:
awesome work, seems like more money for the copper piping and all the fittings than the heater…..quit small looking heater….
It’s actually a 50 gal. It’s just shorter and fatter than most.
thoenew wrote:
The pro press tool works great, Milwaukee M18. It crimps 1/2 – 2” with the included jaws. It saved a lot of time and hassle on this job. The M12 one would be nice for the less weight and tighter fits. This job had 1/2 – 1 1/4″ , but we do floor heat systems that many times has up to 2″.
Are the fittings pretty reasonable? Obviously they can get pretty expensive as the pipes get bigger. I think I saw that Milwaukee has jaws now for cast iron pipe now.
Great job. My brother works for a mechanical contractor and he’s been involved on some demanding installs.
Why is there a circulator on the circuit? Isn’t there enough pressure from the street to provide flow?
DR99 wrote:
Are the fittings pretty reasonable? Obviously they can get pretty expensive as the pipes get bigger. I think I saw that Milwaukee has jaws now for cast iron pipe now.
They are a little more than regular sweat fittings, but they pay off. Way faster, easier to clean up, good chance it wont leak.
99_XC600 wrote:
Great job. My brother works for a mechanical contractor and he’s been involved on some demanding installs.
Why is there a circulator on the circuit? Isn’t there enough pressure from the street to provide flow?
Which ciculator? The little pump above to water heater is the hot water re circulation pump.
Nice clean work.
Very nice work. The pro press is the way to go. But you have to do A LOT of plumbing. The tools is crazy expensive and the fittings are up there as well. We just bought two 2″ ball valves for a commercial project and they were $450 EACH.
Is that a new generation water heater that meets the new EPA requirements?
It looks really good, the price on the fittings are crazy no supply houses here keep stock. Question why are there so many dual check valves being used they look like there all on the same pipe can you explain?
RickyMcGrath wrote:
Very nice work. The pro press is the way to go. But you have to do A LOT of plumbing. The tools is crazy expensive and the fittings are up there as well. We just bought two 2″ ball valves for a commercial project and they were $450 EACH.
Is that a new generation water heater that meets the new EPA requirements?
That’s crazy were they press ball valves??
That’s a nice job. Not easy to get those pro press fittings to press on level. I was wondering how you feel about the press guns? I understand that it’s faster and easier there’s no denying that, but I feel that it makes it so anyone can do our trade. I was taught to solider long before I ever seen a pro press and now it seems I do less and less.
Gotta love pro press! I occasionally get the chance to play with it at my work and it is amazing lol. Idk what’s easier that or pex
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Justin Hernandez wrote:
It looks really good, the price on the fittings are crazy no supply houses here keep stock. Question why are there so many dual check valves being used they look like there all on the same pipe can you explain?
They allow the water to first go to the mixing valve or the water heater. They bottom two allow the circulation pump to feed the hot line or the water heater. Without them cold water could be fed back through the line not letting you get hot water
PlumbBob1345 wrote:
That’s a nice job. Not easy to get those pro press fittings to press on level. I was wondering how you feel about the press guns? I understand that it’s faster and easier there’s no denying that, but I feel that it makes it so anyone can do our trade. I was taught to solider long before I ever seen a pro press and now it seems I do less and less.
I see where you’re coming from, but I would say the increased cost of the fittings is a deterrent. The high cost of the tool is probably a good thing for plumbers. It definitely keeps an average Joe handyman from doing it. Shark Bite fittings are what is what I feel is the handy man tool.
Very nice work.
I used to work for a solar enegery company. I just did basic fabrication of racks an mounts. I never did much plumbing but talked around with the install guys. They loved there two pro presses. i messed around with it before an it is a cool tool. I wouldn’t mind having one, but like others I can’t justify the cost for my use.
Holy excess copper Batman! That’s a bunch of pipe