Mad Framing Skills

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madman_usMember since Sep 2014

here a little post of the termite damaged wall i replaced today.

in the next days/weeks i will open a separate post of the whole process.

just takes a while to send the pictures from my phone to the computer, upload them after a long day.

 

that top plate is completely eaten up, specially the far left side:

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ready for framing and the ramset to shot the 3″ nails into the concrete – man that thing is scary 😀

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ready for action:

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my little side table on the miter saw rail, holding up by the tiny dewalt clamps, they come in handy 😀

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before:

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after ( with bigger opening for the new door )

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i have to do the top studs above the top plate going towards the roof with a bevel cut.

i just have to go back to homedepot tmw because the studs i bought the other day (because i knew i were short on studs, thats why i bought 5 more), they started to warp so bad that i couldnt even use them anymore. premium KD whitewood stud are crap when you dont use them right away.

kinda prefer the green doug fir studs . had 10 of those for weeks in my garage and they didnt warp at all. 

 

regopitMember since Feb 2013

Looking good madman. Always use Dug Fur whenever you can get it.

MikeyBMember since Dec 2014

Looking good Madman, my Dad always tells me Doug Fir is great framing lumber….What model PC framing nailer you have? I have the FC350 for over 12 years and love it, don’t use it every day but it’s a Tiger

MikeyBMember since Dec 2014

And how do you like the Bosch miter saw stand so far?

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

thats my first ever framing work i’ve done in my life 😀

no clue which PC framing nailer that is – i borrowed that and the compressor from a friend but he had that one for a long time too.

i can check it tmw when im back in the garage

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

MikeyB wrote:

And how do you like the Bosch miter saw stand so far?

im loving it. so quick and easy to set up and folding it back up. time and space saver for sure. just takes 40inches when its folded up and set against the wall. in the next weeks i gonna build some nice tables i can put on top of the metal tube from the extension wings.

something similar you see on picture #5

NERemodelingMember since Aug 2014

nice work madman!    you thought you were just going to do a simple door swap!  haha   did you ever think you were gonna open up this can of worms?!    

in the last pic it looks like you still have some damage in the upper left corner of the pic on the drywall

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

NERemodeling wrote:

nice work madman!    you thought you were just going to do a simple door swap!  haha   did you ever think you were gonna open up this can of worms?!    

in the last pic it looks like you still have some damage in the upper left corner of the pic on the drywall

thanks John.

first at all i just thought drywalling the garage, then ah shit we have to termites, then a shit severe termite damage, then ah come lets put a new bigger door in lol. actually i thought i would be done by now with the garage lol.

i opened more drywall in that room too, just to check if they damaged something there too. but lucky to me….nothing really to be afraid of.

ya the picture shows some termite signs, but actually they just had fun eating the paper from the drywalls. studs are ok.

 

here the pic where i opened the other side from the dining room, just to check if those fu**ers did something there too.

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studs are ok

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BigmikezMember since Jun 2013

lookin great MM nice job bro!

NERemodelingMember since Aug 2014

thats good that the bad damage didn’t extend further, i think they go for the easiest stuff first so the paper is probably an easier meal than a 2x stud    or maybe it just tastes better

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

ill ask them when i see one more somewhere 😛

gonna be his last answer haha.

 

thanks mike

chadlanthierMember since Mar 2013

Wow, what a job madman. It’s always interesting tackling something never done before.

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

chadlanthier wrote:

Wow, what a job madman. It’s always interesting tackling something never done before.

thanks chad

comp56Member since Sep 2014

awesome job dude, you should be very proud!….at this point doesn’t look like I can give you any advice……other than IF you cut a 2×4 to short it …….it’s still a 2×4…..

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

comp56 wrote:

awesome job dude, you should be very proud!….at this point doesn’t look like I can give you any advice……other than IF you cut a 2×4 to short it …….it’s still a 2×4…..

haha thanks comp 😀

 

today i tackle the rest + drywall and install the new door. will build a custom threshold for that door. kinda dont like the aluminum.

 

oh and that project gives me the opportunity to install my washer and dryer + water heater in the garage.

the one open wall where all the wires going thru, ill add some pex pipes that i can put all the appliances in the garage and not like right now in a small 4×3 room where you can barely walk into with your dirty clothes basket. that room will be turned into a pantry.

mike_daveMember since May 2014

Nice Job!

 

how’s that porter cable pancake compressor? is it good for pro use, or is it more aimed to DIY’ers?

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

MikeyB wrote:

Looking good Madman, my Dad always tells me Doug Fir is great framing lumber….What model PC framing nailer you have? I have the FC350 for over 12 years and love it, don’t use it every day but it’s a Tiger

i just checked for the model – its the FR350, (Round Head Framing Nailer)

yours is prolly the clipped head model.

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

mike_dave wrote:

Nice Job!

 

how’s that porter cable pancake compressor? is it good for pro use, or is it more aimed to DIY’ers?

i have to say, first i was not so impressed when i looked at the pancake compressor at HD. 

but after using it i kinda like it. i think its for Pro and DIY’er. my friend builds custom homes and he uses this one all the time.

MikeyBMember since Dec 2014

madman_us wrote:

i just checked for the model – its the FR350, (Round Head Framing Nailer)

yours is prolly the clipped head model.

Yes, mine is the clipped head nailer, I can use the same nails I use in my paslode cordless nailer… Holds more nails in the magazine then a round head nailer
madman_usMember since Sep 2014

yeah thats true – loading up the magazine is quick, so i dont mind using a full head nailer and its borrowed so…. 😀

rfwjrMember since Jul 2014

Looking good Madman.

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

rfwjr wrote:

Looking good Madman.

thanks bro – got some more stuff done today…will post pictures after dinner.

plus have a few questions to our pros or maybe our DIY’er if they might know the answer.

NERemodelingMember since Aug 2014

madman_us wrote:

thanks bro – got some more stuff done today…will post pictures after dinner.

plus have a few questions to our pros or maybe our DIY’er if they might know the answer.

Looking forward to some more great pics Madman!  

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

NERemodeling wrote:

Looking forward to some more great pics Madman!  

they will go online shortly, but first i need to make a little drawing to make my question a bit easier

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

alright here we go.

so i want to move my laundry room into the garage as well as the water heater which is outside atm.

the old laundry room will be turned into a pantry as soon as i start to remodel the kitchen.

so i have to run a Cold Line into the garage from the main water valve.

which size does that has to be? i gonna use pex pipe because its cheaper and easier to use.

i saw 1/2″; 3/4″ in red and blue and 1″ in white.

because i have to feed the water heater and the wash machine + maybe a sink in the garage.

i was thinking about the 1″ white going towards the garage. to feed the water heater, wash machine and sink.

or should i use 3/4″ blue pex ?!?!

on the drawning you can see that i will run the pipes thru the opened wall in the dining room (#1 in the drawing), because on both sides i dont have a attic.

#2 is the wall i reframed because of the termite damage.

so and then when the water heater has the cold water supply, i thought about using 3/4″ red pex going back in the house to feed the rest.

 

so what you guys think? did i choose the right sizes to feed everything?

i also have to install new sewage pipes in the garage. but thats a another game 😀

 

here my quick drawing 😀 😀

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thats the wall i run the pipes thru, left side is the garage, right side is the kitchen(kitchen attic)

i already bought the metal plates for the studs to protect the existing wires + the new pex pipes from drywall screws 😛

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Samuel L.Member since Sep 2014

How have those walls not fallen down.

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

wall #2 is not a load bearing wall 😛

NERemodelingMember since Aug 2014

Madman, Im not a plumber so hopefully one will chime in!

 

my gut is telling me that you will be good with your plan.. might even be on the safe side… hows your water pressure?  pretty strong??

 

just so i make sure I’m hearing you right.. run 1″ from the water main to the garage.. at the garage i think you can t-down to 3/4 feeding the WH and 3/4 feeding the rest of the cold fixtures.. you could actually jump right down to 1/2″ for the washer and sink cold lines.  without really knowing the water demand of the rest of the house i can say you should be good feeding from the new water heater to the existing house with 3/4″…  from the hot water heater to the garage sink and washer 1/2″ should be fine. 

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

the water pressure is pretty high.

i prolly go with 3/4″ blue pex (cold) from water main to garage, because the 1″ white pex is kinda on the expensive side.

1″x100′ is 70 bucks…. and 3/4×100′ $50; 1/2×100′ $30

also i think 3/4″ should be enough to feed the water header and the rest in the garage

but yeah, exactly what typed NER.

whats a good idea too….the cold water in the garage coming from main water, will get a shut off valve and the warm water which goes from the new WH in the house ( or just directly after the WH )will get a shut off valve as well.

MikeyBMember since Dec 2014

madman_us wrote:

yeah thats true – loading up the magazine is quick, so i dont mind using a full head nailer and its borrowed so…. 😀

MikeyBMember since Dec 2014

madman_us wrote:

the water pressure is pretty high.

i prolly go with 3/4″ blue pex (cold) from water main to garage, because the 1″ white pex is kinda on the expensive side.

1″x100′ is 70 bucks…. and 3/4×100′ $50; 1/2×100′ $30

also i think 3/4″ should be enough to feed the water header and the rest in the garage

but yeah, exactly what typed NER.

whats a good idea too….the cold water in the garage coming from main water, will get a shut off valve and the warm water which goes from the new WH in the house ( or just directly after the WH )will get a shut off valve as well.[/quote

I agree with John, , MM what size is your main? If you have 1″ off the main i would run the 1″ to the water heater and branch off the cw to your wm and any other fixtures, if you have 3/4″ off the main run 3/4″ and you will be fine, the 1″ will be better if you have a long run, the bigger the pipe the less resistance the water will have to fight against as it flows. Some of the PEX tubing out there have a smaller Inside diameter than copper tubing and their fittings are not full port like copper. I have used Viega PEX and love it. The less fittings you use the better…

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

i gonna check what size the main line is…. also what size going in and out of the wh now.

 

viega PEX is pretty cool, i like that too….

i used that back in germany

 

HomeDepot just has sharkbite pex – its similar, just push in and done.

no press needed, but i assume the fittings are a bit more expensive.

and i dont have that crimping tool for viega pex tubes  😛

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

anybody else input?

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

new plan; so ya i think that 1/2″ pex pipe for wash machine and sink should be enough.

 

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NERemodelingMember since Aug 2014

Looks like a good plan.. did you ever check the size pipe that is currently feeding the water heater etc. as Mikey mentioned? That’s a good move and should tell you a lot about what you need. Mikey knows his stuff

1/2 to the washer and sink is plenty.

Also, don’t get hung up on the color of the pipe… if you can save some money by buying all one color then go for it, there are no differences in the pipe itself, it’s just to make it easier to keep track of your hot and cold while running a lot of it.. shouldn’t be a concern in your case.

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

NERemodeling wrote:

Looks like a good plan.. did you ever check the size pipe that is currently feeding the water heater etc. as Mikey mentioned? That’s a good move and should tell you a lot about what you need. Mikey knows his stuff

1/2 to the washer and sink is plenty.

Also, don’t get hung up on the color of the pipe… if you can save some money by buying all one color then go for it, there are no differences in the pipe itself, it’s just to make it easier to keep track of your hot and cold while running a lot of it.. shouldn’t be a concern in your case.

i havent checked it today – was hell of a storm outside. i can do it tomorrow.

the color in the picture is just to show hot and cold 😀 the price for the pipes is the same….doesnt matter if its white, red pink or yellow 😛

MikeyBMember since Dec 2014

MM had did you do with your plumbing rough in?

madman_usMember since Sep 2014

i changed my mind with that project. to much work to move everything in the garage, new plumbing, water and sewage, new electrical for dryer and washer. i just keep the laundry room where it is.

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