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Any info on Dewalt expanding their brushless XR lineup? I hope to see at least a circular saw and sawzall by July, my hope is fading and needs restoration. Someone come with the good news already 😛
Same here. I have been waiting for the new xr circular saw to come out. Hope they are not using the dcs373 20v metal cutting circular saw consider their new xr line for circular.. well it is not brushless right?
Yimmiyo wrote:
Hope they are not using the dcs373 20v metal cutting circular saw consider their new xr line for circular.. well it is not brushless right?
huh?
dwain wrote:
huh?
Hey guys, Dwain, I think what Yimmi is trying to say is that he is concerned that DeWalt is “pushing” their new circular metal cutting saw (which is not brushless) as a part of the XR bruhless lineup. Which i do not believe is the case myself, although i can see how that could be confusing when you google search for a Dewalt brushless circular saw.
ok. XR does not mean brushless, their entire 20V Max range is ‘XR’ (for extended runtime). They should have left the XR branding for brushless like Milwuakee did will the ‘FUEL’ branding.
Yes sir, thanks Mr.D, yes thats exactly what I meant. What I was meaning is hoping they dont mean to push the metal saw out and considering its their new circular saw. I thought it was brushless some how. I’m still trying to do research and see can I switch a wood blade on and use it as a regular circular. So thats for the huh? reply for dwain.
Huh?
ok. XR does not mean brushless, their entire 20V Max range is ‘XR’ (for extended runtime). They should have left the XR branding for brushless like Milwuakee did will the ‘FUEL’ branding.
ok. NO. XR stands for Extreme runtime. Brushless motor = XR. Dewalt XR line-up advertising Brushless motor (COOLER RUNNING. MORE EFFICIENT. LONGER RUNTIME.) offering up to 57% more runtime than standard brushed motors with their high capacity battery (MORE CAPACITY. MORE RUNTIME. SAME SIZE.) With 33% more capacity than standard 20V MAX batteries = Extreme runtime. Not sure its other countries brand all their dewalt 20V max tool (XR)? never heard of that! In US, only the Brushless dewalt tools call XR. Not sure did you get confused on the older dewalt 18v xrp(extended runtime performance) xrp were their one step up of tool line for dewalt. their xrp tools are more bad ass than their non xrp line. And they were famous on their xrp battery pack which is the taller black and yellow top case with 2500mah ni-cd cells in it instead of the standard battery pack with 1500mah. Anyway. Dewalt XR is their brushless line for Dewalt as far as I know.
Hey Dwain here are the info. about XR for Dewalt
http://www.dewalt.com/20v-XR-extreme-runtime-brushless-motors
Yimmiyo wrote:
Hey Dwain here are the info. about XR for Dewalt
http://www.dewalt.com/20v-XR-extreme-runtime-brushless-motors
Thanks Yimmi, this link clearly shows DeWalt advertising “XR” as a system of a brushless motor tool PAIRED with high capacity lithium batteries. Any DeWalt TOOL made for use in America with “XR” branded on it IS brushless. 20v max tools DO NOT have “XR” branding although “XR” tools have 20v max branding, as seen on DeWalts 20v max page, not one item with the letters “XR” on it. Now let me say after clearing this up this topic is not intended for debating semantics it is here to find out when DeWalt will bring some more brushless tools to the table. Take care
the XR branding has been around a lot longer than the brushless tools. I bought my ’18v’ XR kit way before the first brushless tool came out (dcf895). Maybe it was more referring to the batteries or system than the tools themselves. See here, the 985 pack has XR labelling: http://www.dewalt.com/tools/cordless-drills-drilldrivers-dcd980m2.aspx
dwain wrote:
ok. XR does not mean brushless, their entire 20V Max range is ‘XR’ (for extended runtime). They should have left the XR branding for brushless like Milwuakee did will the ‘FUEL’ branding.
dwain wrote:
the XR branding has been around a lot longer than the brushless tools. I bought my ’18v’ XR kit way before the first brushless tool came out (dcf895). Maybe it was more referring to the batteries or system than the tools themselves. See here, the 985 pack has XR labelling: http://www.dewalt.com/tools/cordless-drills-drilldrivers-dcd980m2.aspx
Sir, if a DeWalt TOOL (not battery) has “XR” on it, it is brushless. You stand corrected. If the battery has “XR” on it, it means it is a high capacity lithium battery. I do not see why you continue to debate this when you are clearly confused. XR on a TOOL means it is brushless. SO, like Milwakee has “Fuel” branded on their brushless tools DeWalt has “XR” on their brushless tools. *Cracks open IPA and kicks feet up*
Actually Dwain is correct and surprisingly so are the people arguing with him. Outside of the usa it seems 20v max are called 18v XR even if they are not brushless, take a look at exhibit A which is a dcd785 sold in uk and look at the labeling in the drill itself, it says XR on it and we all know it’s not brushless
http://www.toolstop.co.uk/dewalt-dcd785m1-18v-xr-li-ion-2-speed-combi-drill-1-x-4ah-battery-p64378
So Dwain is correct and it’s also correct that here in the usa XR is only for brushless tools and the 2.0 and 4.0 batteries
Javier wrote:
Actually Dwain is correct and surprisingly so are the people arguing with him. Outside of the usa it seems 20v max are called 18v XR even if they are not brushless, take a look at exhibit A which is a dcd785 sold in uk and look at the labeling in the drill itself, it says XR on it and we all know it’s not brushless
http://www.toolstop.co.uk/dewalt-dcd785m1-18v-xr-li-ion-2-speed-combi-drill-1-x-4ah-battery-p64378
So Dwain is correct and it’s also correct that here in the usa XR is only for brushless tools and the 2.0 and 4.0 batteries
Now both of you are incorrect because this topic is about brushless tools.
Javier wrote:
Actually Dwain is correct and surprisingly so are the people arguing with him. Outside of the usa it seems 20v max are called 18v XR even if they are not brushless, take a look at exhibit A which is a dcd785 sold in uk and look at the labeling in the drill itself, it says XR on it and we all know it’s not brushless
http://www.toolstop.co.uk/dewalt-dcd785m1-18v-xr-li-ion-2-speed-combi-drill-1-x-4ah-battery-p64378
So Dwain is correct and it’s also correct that here in the usa XR is only for brushless tools and the 2.0 and 4.0 batteries
And for the record sir, this topic is referring to American tools, not tools in UK or elsewhere.
MR. D wrote:
Any info on Dewalt expanding their brushless XR lineup? I hope to see at least a circular saw and sawzall by July, my hope is fading and needs restoration. Someone come with the good news already 😛
BRUSHLESS XR LINEUP, not 18v European lineup.
Hey, just want to said not trying to argue or anything here. None of us here knows everything. We are all consumers like to chat and discuss tools here to learn and exchange information on our tools. I thought that is what the tool forums about! There was a topic for me. I’m sharing about with what I know, that’s all. if we didn’t talk about it. We all wouldn’t know!
For myself I learnt and found that in US, only brushless motor calls XR line up. Seems like in Australia 20V max line are same as US 20v max line, came with XR batteries but not the tool( wonder does brushless line has xr on the tool itself.) In UK they branded all theirs dewalt 20V max line to 18V xr, but they still call some of their premium li-ion tools XRP (not sure does the P stand for premium or performance? ) I think its because of they aren’t legally allow to brand them 20V max so they just go ahead and brand them 18V XR to marketing the difference on 18V ni-cd and 18V li-ion. It’s a little confusing that different countries brand or marketing their dewalt cordless tools very differently. There are something for us to learn. Because TIA is international site not just in US. Lol…. good stuffs;)
It’s true, when DeWALT launched their new 18V line here in Europe it was called 18V XR to differentiate it from the older 18V with the stempack batteries.
The US used 20V Max to differentiate it from the older 18V line and only started adding XR for the brushless tools.
They could have just used XR for the brushed tools and RXR for brushless (Really Extreme Runtime) 😛
Like Mario from mariokart DS says: take it easy! everyone here is friendly and easy going and just about every topic gets off topic. Don’t be surprised if this topic ends up talking about farting or dancing guys wearing chinos or even a cordless pop rivet gun or why ryobi is the best brand on the planet
Bahhh, we’re all stubborn men contemplating the difference of tool branding and i love it. Yimmi or anyone else with the US XR tools, i have been thinking about getting milwakee brushless tools (m18) to complete my brushless kit while keeping my dewalt drill and impact driver and adding the DeWalt multitool. So three Dewalt tools, and the rest milwakee, all brushless. Does anyone see why this would be a horribly bad idea considering im already invested into the best impact driver and drill on the market and i want a complete brushless kit? yall come back now ya hear
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha WOW. 🙂
As others have said, its a discussion forum! We’re here to discuss (there’s not much else to do on a forum!).
Yes, here in Aus (like Europe) our tools and batteries are branded 18V XR. The confusion is Dewalt’s fault 😉
I have Dewalt and Bosch 18V platforms and love being able to choose the best from both lineups. I flirted with getting Milwaukee also, but decided that was the path that lead to madness…
If I was starting from scratch, given Milwaukee’s cracking lineup, I’d personally have them and then have to choose between Dewalt and Bosch, and it would be hard!
No cordless tool line up is perfect. I still carry a xrp 18v dewalt nailer along with the Milwaukee and newer dewalt stuff. If possible I would like to go all 12v.
So. does anybody hear anything about any new brushless tool coming out soon from Dewalt?
You all are so passionate! Looks like you figured it out! XR = Brushless in USA.
Yimmiyo wrote:
So. does anybody hear anything about any new brushless tool coming out soon from Dewalt?
yeah, new brushless tools are in the works. I recently tested one, but I cannot share anything as it is still in development.
Mr. Yellow wrote:
yeah, new brushless tools are in the works. I recently tested one, but I cannot share anything as it is still in development.
Cool, for UK though?
Europe, not only UK 😉 I’m pretty sure this tool will also come to the US. Don’t know which will have it first though. Sometimes it’s EU, sometimes it’s US.
MR. D wrote:
Bahhh, we’re all stubborn men contemplating the difference of tool branding and i love it. Yimmi or anyone else with the US XR tools, i have been thinking about getting milwakee brushless tools (m18) to complete my brushless kit while keeping my dewalt drill and impact driver and adding the DeWalt multitool. So three Dewalt tools, and the rest milwakee, all brushless. Does anyone see why this would be a horribly bad idea considering im already invested into the best impact driver and drill on the market and i want a complete brushless kit? yall come back now ya hear
We are. LOL. the dewalt multi tool is the bomb….. I love it. Blade are pricey tho. I found some 3rd party off brand set cheaper on ebay . And they are on there way now. Will find out the quality when they get here.
I don’t think is a horribly idea to get some m18 fuel to complete your brushless set. Only if thats what you want and have the extra money to spend;) I like the m18 fuel line a lot. Plus the 5years warranty and all brushless is the key. I really think! But I have already intvested too deep in dewalt 20v platform already. I’m with total of 12 20V max batteries now, but only 8 tools. At the point I guess I just have to continue wait for dewalt to come out with more new badass brushless tools and hope my batteries still good by then; )
And I also hope dewalt will get back in the 12v max line. Brushless on th 12v as well. I love the weight and size or the 12v line. But seems like they forgot about them;)