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I am surprised the hilti lacks a led light and chip feature, can’t wait to see what happens between these two!
Once you do your test on your drills I would like to also do a test with my Bosch to see how they compare with these two drills. They just look some much bigger then my drill! I think these drills just eat through cinder block so I think poured concrete would be the best test.
WIElectrician wrote:
Once you do your test on your drills I would like to also do a test with my Bosch to see how they compare with these two drills. They just look some much bigger then my drill! I think these drills just eat through cinder block so I think poured concrete would be the best test.
I’m uploading a video s we speak.
Which Bosch model do you have again…?
Ahhh…that one is pretty. I want it lol.
I would love to compare that one to these. I think right now, if I didn’t own an SDS and didn’t have all of the DeWalt stuff and I had to go buy one….I would get the Bosch. That thing is nice…and only 5.7 pounds!
And the 36v is only 6.25 pounds! Bosch has their stuff together when it comes to hammer and rotary drills.
Nice side by side.
The 36v Bosch is pretty sweet! The company I work for has one and the thing is pretty smooth in concrete. I’m invested in Bosch so that was one reason I got it, but all the reviews said it was a pretty good all around performer.
Great video!! The Hilti seems a bit faster imo
From watching the video it looked like the Dewalt was alittle faster drilling 21 holes in about 1:45 and I the Hilti was about a 1:46 maybe minute 1:47. That is surprising that they were that even.
Yeah, it’s hard to time it exactly, but I came up with 1:46 for the Hilti and 1:48 for the DeWalt.
I wonder if there would be much of a difference drilling 3″ deep in concrete instead of 1¼” granite that’s breaking out on the back.
I wonder which would do better with a larger bit.
I’m going to do another comparison with 1/2″ bits once I locate some concrete I can drill up.
I’ve done 1/2″ holes with the DeWalt and it was pretty smooth.
You could tell the dewalt hit less often but it probably hit harder. I’m suprised they were pretty much even.
Yeah, the DeWalt is 1.7 ft lbs of impact energy, the Hilti is 1.5 ft lbs
The DeWalt is 4100 ipm, the Hilti is 5200 ipm.
I think the Hilti would do better with a bigger, longer bit, but I’m still pretty surprised with how close they were. I’m wondering what is coming out at the World of Concrete going on right now!
They are having a lot of deals on their website.
I saw that that! I guess there reveal some new stuff this year too
So here’s a more telling video. Both rotary hammers drilling with the same 3/16″ bits into concrete.
Good research damnyankee, clearly the hilti is slightly better. Not worth switching brands with those numbers. The drilling speed will only matter when having to drill tons of holes at a time. For a few holes here and there you can’t go wrong with either one.
Javier wrote:
Good research damnyankee, clearly the hilti is slightly better. Not worth switching brands with those numbers. The drilling speed will only matter when having to drill tons of holes at a time. For a few holes here and there you can’t go wrong with either one.
Thank you, and I agree – not worth switching (or paying $$) for that difference. I sent that back today and will likely pick up the Bosch RHH181.
Almost snagged a 24v Metabo off eBay for $200, but didn’t pull the trigger.
Still researching.
Good choice with the Bosch! I’ve been using it alot lately, and I think it was well worth the $375 I paid for it. For the money you paid for the Hilti, and it only drill alittle faster then the Dewalt I think you made a good call returning it. I want to make a review video of the Bosch your going to buy, but I don’t want to turn my driveway in to Swiss cheese. If you got any questions about the Bosch just ask!
Thanks, I think I’ll be happy with the Bosch.
I’m contemplating getting the RHH180…same as the 181 except it doesn’t have the hammer-only feature. I can get a reconditioned one with two batteries and a charger for $299 from CPO or the bare tool for
Where did you find the 181 for $375? That’s a good deal. Amazon is $299 for the bare tool with an L-Boxx, $449 for the tool, two batteries, and the L-Boxx.
http://www.tools-plus.com/bosch-rhh181-01.html
This is where I bought it from, but all I did was google it and searched through the shopping section. Another difference between the 180 and the 181, is the 181 has a brushless motor.
WIElectrician wrote:
http://www.tools-plus.com/bosch-rhh181-01.html
This is where I bought it from, but all I did was google it and searched through the shopping section. Another difference between the 180 and the 181, is the 181 has a brushless motor.
Man, that’s a really good deal.
Everything I’ve read indicates the 180 has a brushless motor as well. I even called tech support to check and was told the motors are the same.
Cancelled the order on the 180 and purchased the 181 through Tools Plus. $389 shipped is a great deal. Can’t wait to try it out.
Good choice! It comes with those gay tool purses, but you can always buy a l-boxx. I always thought the 180 had a brushed motor, but I looked it up and it’s brushless. Looking foward to the match-up between the Bosch and the Dewalt!
lol…yeah, it comes with a bag, but for me, that actually works out better. I keep my cordless tools loose in the truck, stashed in various cubby holes, under seats, etc. When I get to a job, I grab my large DeWalt bag and put the various hand tools and cordless tools, etc. that I need in the bag. I have another smaller DeWalt bag that holds my silicone, caulk gun, liquid adhesives, etc. Then I have an even smaller DeWalt bag that I keep my duct tape, masking tape, painters tape, Gorilla tape, and double-sided tape in. I’m sure I’ll find a use for the Bosch bag….maybe for recip blades and grinding / cutoff wheels.
I keep Bosch in the bag for now, but I would like to buy the L-Boxx down the road. I don’t want put my Bosch in my power tool bag, because it would just my it super heavy.
Most drills are a much of a muchness these days, the only reason I buy Hilti is for the warranty which is incredible, I’m using the tool everyday and so when and if it breaks down I want it back as soon as possible! They normally have it back with my within 2 working days. In the uk the 18v in your review is classed as a 22v and I’ve got it with the 3.3Ah batteries, I’ve also got the 36v too and they both still get blown away by the Bosch 36v lol. Dewalt don’t have much of a following in the UK for there cordless SDS,s.
What about the Makita with 2-18v batteries? Other than price with batteries might scare some away, it should be very close to the bosch as well.
Great comparison.
DCH213 hmm take the DCH253 it is totally rebuild vs DCH213..
I don’t think the will be fair in this camparison 2×18 v = 36 v vs 18 v
For the user it hardly matters if the thing has a 36 volt or 18 volt motor inside.
All he wants is to pop in thesame batteries he uses on all his other tools and get to working. In that regard the 2x 18Volt idea is fantastic.