I Am So sick of porter cable

So as you guys know I posted about 5″ porter cable orbital sanders awhile back . I just put a couple new pads on them and used the air compressor to blow wood dust out of them. Also the screw’s they use is stupid they use toques screws while makita still uses Philips and how 25 year old sanders last longer then these pieces of shit ……. Porter Cable once used to be an awesome company making routers to drills . where did that company go ? Now there routers last 5 years and their bearings go out and getting a deal from a tool repair shop is 50 a piece normaly is more but I know the guy but still THEY NEED TO STEP UP THERE GAME !! Many of the schools sanders have died I would say 10 porter cables what a joke . the picture below is what we have left

They just don’t make things like they used to, like I’ve mentioned I love my PC ROS, but it was cheap, only 40 bucks, wouldn’t have paid more for it, yours appear to be a different model, The one by itself to the right looks like that one I own

i like torx, the different type of screws is the least of my concern… But I know what you mean. the almighty dollar is leading the way

KnarlyCarl wrote:

49 minutes ago, KnarlyCarl said:

i like torx, the different type of screws is the least of my concern… But I know what you mean. the almighty dollar is leading the way

I like torx too but when u don’t have a torx screw driver to get them undone is a bitch

all my pc gear was bought long ago, when they made things in Jackson, Tenn

now that i think of it, i should look at my ‘tiger claws’ for coo.

anyone got a ‘tiger cub’ they wanna let go?.

CATERPILLAR wrote:

On 2/2/2017 at 6:33 PM, CATERPILLAR said:

I like torx too but when u don’t have a torx screw driver to get them undone is a bitch

Thats not Porter Cables fault. 

CATERPILLAR wrote:

On 2/2/2017 at 9:06 AM, CATERPILLAR said:

So as you guys know I posted about 5″ porter cable orbital sanders awhile back . I just put a couple new pads on them and used the air compressor to blow wood dust out of them. Also the screw’s they use is stupid they use toques screws while makita still uses Philips and how 25 year old sanders last longer then these pieces of shit ……. Porter Cable once used to be an awesome company making routers to drills . where did that company go ? Now there routers last 5 years and their bearings go out and getting a deal from a tool repair shop is 50 a piece normaly is more but I know the guy but still THEY NEED TO STEP UP THERE GAME !! Many of the schools sanders have died I would say 10 porter cables what a joke . the picture below is what we have left

What are they 50 dollar sanders used by kids who have no idea what they are doing? If you get 5 years out of them, then I don’t think you could ask for much more.

To me a 50.00 sander is disposable.

My mid sized and 3 1/4 hp routers are both PC and are over 10 years old. All the routers at work are PC and they get used and abused. The only common thing I see that goes bad on them is the on / off switch and the plastic top covers get cracked. But that is because people trip over the cords and they get pulled off the work benches.  To me PC routers are the best meat and potatoes routers on the market.

We also have a Festool router but it stays in the tool room and only gets used for certain reasons.

I also would bet that PC would tell you not to use compressed air to clean their sanders or any of their tools, as it just drives dust particles INTO the bearings.

Have you emailed PC with your complaints, how did they respond?

EDIT…. Actually they are 40.00 sanders. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-5-in-Random-Orbital-Sander-382/203054710?cm_mmc=Shopping|THD|G|0|G-BASE-PLA-D25T-PowerTools|&gclid=Cj0KEQiAt9vEBRDQmPSow-q5gs8BEiQAaWSEDqdJ7L-ZLgh2X67fXu7K66RcRbrE1xmDye1x1OpPO1oaAhLE8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

SetBuilder wrote:

2 hours ago, SetBuilder said:

 

Thats not Porter Cables fault. 

I know but when they use them to assembled them it is

SetBuilder wrote:

 

What are they 50 dollar sanders used by kids who have no idea what they are doing? If you get 5 years out of them, then I don’t think you could ask for much more.

 

To me a 50.00 sander is disposable.

 

My mid sized and 3 1/4 hp routers are both PC and are over 10 years old. All the routers at work are PC and they get used and abused. The only common thing I see that goes bad on them is the on / off switch and the plastic top covers get cracked. But that is because people trip over the cords and they get pulled off the work benches.  To me PC routers are the best meat and potatoes routers on the market.

 

We also have a Festool router but it stays in the tool room and only gets used for certain reasons.

 

I also would bet that PC would tell you not to use compressed air to clean their sanders or any of their tools, as it just drives dust particles INTO the bearings.

 

Have you emailed PC with your complaints, how did they respond?

 

 

EDIT…. Actually they are 40.00 sanders. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-5-in-Random-Orbital-Sander-382/203054710?cm_mmc=Shopping|THD|G|0|G-BASE-PLA-D25T-PowerTools|&gclid=Cj0KEQiAt9vEBRDQmPSow-q5gs8BEiQAaWSEDqdJ7L-ZLgh2X67fXu7K66RcRbrE1xmDye1x1OpPO1oaAhLE8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

SetBuilder wrote:

2 hours ago, SetBuilder said:

 

What are they 50 dollar sanders used by kids who have no idea what they are doing? If you get 5 years out of them, then I don’t think you could ask for much more.

 

To me a 50.00 sander is disposable.

 

My mid sized and 3 1/4 hp routers are both PC and are over 10 years old. All the routers at work are PC and they get used and abused. The only common thing I see that goes bad on them is the on / off switch and the plastic top covers get cracked. But that is because people trip over the cords and they get pulled off the work benches.  To me PC routers are the best meat and potatoes routers on the market.

 

We also have a Festool router but it stays in the tool room and only gets used for certain reasons.

 

I also would bet that PC would tell you not to use compressed air to clean their sanders or any of their tools, as it just drives dust particles INTO the bearings.

 

Have you emailed PC with your complaints, how did they respond?

 

 

EDIT…. Actually they are 40.00 sanders. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-5-in-Random-Orbital-Sander-382/203054710?cm_mmc=Shopping|THD|G|0|G-BASE-PLA-D25T-PowerTools|&gclid=Cj0KEQiAt9vEBRDQmPSow-q5gs8BEiQAaWSEDqdJ7L-ZLgh2X67fXu7K66RcRbrE1xmDye1x1OpPO1oaAhLE8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

So makita sanders can last 20 + years and when they bought them not being much more , also most of the routers at my school sound like shit because porter cable can’t use high quality bearings . It doesn’t seem like I care too much what they say .. I didn’t blow them out full blast 2 I know what the fuck I am doing and it doesn’t seem that I want to waste my time emailing a shitty company its there problem if they don’t want to make quality tools 

CATERPILLAR wrote:

2 hours ago, CATERPILLAR said:

I know but when they use them to assembled them it is

Huh

SetBuilder wrote:

1 minute ago, SetBuilder said:

 

Huh

What ? I said it’s a pain when they have torxs and u don’t have a screw driver on u 

CATERPILLAR wrote:

1 hour ago, CATERPILLAR said:

So makita sanders can last 20 + years and when they bought them not being much more , also most of the routers at my school sound like shit because porter cable can’t use high quality bearings . It doesn’t seem like I care too much what they say .. I didn’t blow them out full blast 2 I know what the fuck I am doing and it doesn’t seem that I want to waste my time emailing a shitty company its there problem if they don’t want to make quality tools 

Do you have Makita sanders at your school as well, are they run side by side with the PC ones?  What router models are you talking about, how are they used?

You say you won’t email the company as its a waste of your time, yet posting rants here every time someone breaks a tool is a better use of your time? What if they would replace them free of charge, would that still be a waste of your time?

CATERPILLAR wrote:

4 minutes ago, CATERPILLAR said:

What ? I said it’s a pain when they have torxs and u don’t have a screw driver on u 

I had to change the axles in my VW Passat this weekend. I needed a 17mm hex key and a 8mm triple 12pt  square socket. Hardly something the average person has in their tool box. Should I have started a thread about it on some auto repair forum or just ordered the tools I needed for the job? 

SetBuilder wrote:

1 minute ago, SetBuilder said:

Do you have Makita sanders at your school as well, are they run side by side with the PC ones?  What router models are you talking about, how are they used?

You say you won’t email the company as its a waste of your time, yet posting rants here every time someone breaks a tool is a better use of your time? What if they would replace them free of charge, would that still be a waste of your time?

Not any more I got them they had little to no issues a bunch of models I don’t keep track ,  I can do what ever the fuck I want who cares if I rant on here ? It seems no one but u . also its the high schools money so why should I care ???

How old are you?

SetBuilder wrote:

Just now, SetBuilder said:

 

I had to change the axles in my VW Passat this weekend. I needed a 17mm hex key and a 8mm triple 12pt  square socket. Hardly something the average person has in their tool box. Should I have started a thread about it on some auto repair forum or just ordered the tools I needed for the job? 

Wtf are you saying stop being an asshole . I was stating a fact and I didn’t I know I had to repair them 

SetBuilder wrote:

Just now, SetBuilder said:

How old are you?

Does it matter ?

All I will say is, you would never speak to me that way in person.

SetBuilder wrote:

1 minute ago, SetBuilder said:

All I will say is, you would never speak to me that way in person.

Why is that you came in here being all rude and you expect me not to say anything back ?

Ah man the triple square for the VW yes they are so proprietary, gotta be so special..

phffter wrote:

4 hours ago, phffter said:

all my pc gear was bought long ago, when they made things in Jackson, Tenn

now that i think of it, i should look at my ‘tiger claws’ for coo.

anyone got a ‘tiger cub’ they wanna let go?.

Where’s good place to find batteries for those tools? I’m asking for a friend. no seriously, i am hah

Hey, to bad about the Porter Cable sanders AND the Passat guys. Looks like a bunch of bad luck all around the board. PC used to be ahead of the game in a lot of areas a while back and though they are hitting the DIY market with some really decent tools and thoughtful research, some of the tools haven’t fared so well. Kind of like VW! My Father in Law has one of the emission vehicles and he’s somewhat hot under the collar about that one. But once you have a penchant for all things Germanic you have to buy special tools when they go kaput but generally they are at the top of their game.

Thankfully we all have a great place to vent about it. That’s what makes this place so awesome. We’ve got guys like Trevor who are leading the way in school and a bright future to ancient old farts like Comp ( 😛 ) who have a world of experience from the Stone Age using rocks to beat in bone nails, to pre ancient farts like me who know how to talk the talk but not walk the walk 😀 

ChrisK wrote:

4 hours ago, ChrisK said:

Hey, to bad about the Porter Cable sanders AND the Passat guys. Looks like a bunch of bad luck all around the board. PC used to be ahead of the game in a lot of areas a while back and though they are hitting the DIY market with some really decent tools and thoughtful research, some of the tools haven’t fared so well. Kind of like VW! My Father in Law has one of the emission vehicles and he’s somewhat hot under the collar about that one. But once you have a penchant for all things Germanic you have to buy special tools when they go kaput but generally they are at the top of their game.

 

Thankfully we all have a great place to vent about it. That’s what makes this place so awesome. We’ve got guys like Trevor who are leading the way in school and a bright future to ancient old farts like Comp ( 😛 ) who have a world of experience from the Stone Age using rocks to beat in bone nails, to pre ancient farts like me who know how to talk the talk but not walk the walk 😀 

 

Hey I remember those stone age tools lol with a bit of comp flair to them..

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ChrisK wrote:

6 hours ago, ChrisK said:

Hey, to bad about the Porter Cable sanders AND the Passat guys. Looks like a bunch of bad luck all around the board. PC used to be ahead of the game in a lot of areas a while back and though they are hitting the DIY market with some really decent tools and thoughtful research, some of the tools haven’t fared so well. Kind of like VW! My Father in Law has one of the emission vehicles and he’s somewhat hot under the collar about that one. But once you have a penchant for all things Germanic you have to buy special tools when they go kaput but generally they are at the top of their game.

 

Thankfully we all have a great place to vent about it. That’s what makes this place so awesome. We’ve got guys like Trevor who are leading the way in school and a bright future to ancient old farts like Comp ( 😛 ) who have a world of experience from the Stone Age using rocks to beat in bone nails, to pre ancient farts like me who know how to talk the talk but not walk the walk 😀 

 

Thanks man ? lol comp I don’t think he is that old lol ???

KnarlyCarl wrote:

2 hours ago, KnarlyCarl said:

Hey I remember those stone age tools lol with a bit of comp flair to them..

 

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Paint them Milwaukee red and slap a stonezall sticker on there and you good to go ??

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CATERPILLAR wrote:

12 minutes ago, CATERPILLAR said:

Thanks man ? lol comp I don’t think he is that old lol ???

Oh Gawd yeah! I think he defended Quebec from the Americans during the Revolutionary War! His first car actually had REAL horse power! I jest of course….Comp is actually ageless. Kind of like mountains 😉 That’s where all his experience comes from. He studied under Davinci 🙂 I studied under Barnum and Bailey 😉 

comp56 wrote:

2 minutes ago, comp56 said:

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Hahahahahaha friggin hilarious

If they had used Phillips and you did not have one, that would be a pain as well. (or Reed and Prince, straight slot, hex, whatever) If you (or I) don’t have the tool needed at the time, it is a pain, regardless of the situation. 

CATERPILLAR wrote:

27 minutes ago, CATERPILLAR said:

Paint them Milwaukee red and slap a stonezall sticker on there and you good to go ??

That’s what he did, I can’t find that thread right now tho

ChrisK wrote:

12 minutes ago, ChrisK said:

Oh Gawd yeah! I think he defended Quebec from the Americans during the Revolutionary War! His first car actually had REAL horse power! I jest of course….Comp is actually ageless. Kind of like mountains 😉 That’s where all his experience comes from. He studied under Davinci 🙂 I studied under Barnum and Bailey 😉 

Lol man u crack me up ??_?

comp56 wrote:

15 minutes ago, comp56 said:

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That’s the one!

comp56 wrote:

15 minutes ago, comp56 said:

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Lol comp ???

Here is my 2 cents on the subject.  

Porter Cable was bought by Stanley/Black N Decker in October 2004.  That is basically when production ceased in the USA.  There is kind of a pecking order or price points in the Stanley / Black N Decker line.  From what I can see, they go from top to bottom beginning with DeWalt, Bostitch, Stanley, Porter Cable, and then Black N Decker.  

They are priced to compete with Ridgid and Kobalt, but I think they are more equal to Ryobi if you ask me.   

The routers used to be excellent and I love my Tiger Saw and my Porter cable 557 biscuit jointer, but they were both bought before 2004.  I also own the Porter Cable pocket hole jig that I really like.

I had a porter cable 18 volt lithium ion drill, but it lacked any real 18 volt power, so I gave it away.

I tend to stay away from Porter cable if I am looking at tools now.  

Seems like a drop in quality is a trend. Has happened with many companies including Black and Decker and Craftsman.

Jronman wrote:

1 hour ago, Jronman said:

Seems like a drop in quality is a trend. Has happened with many companies including Black and Decker and Craftsman.

Yes I agree its sad they used to be top notch 

KnarlyCarl wrote:

On 2/5/2017 at 10:14 PM, KnarlyCarl said:

Ah man the triple square for the VW yes they are so proprietary, gotta be so special..

all my pc gear was bought long ago, when they made things in Jackson, Tenn

now that i think of it, i should look at my ‘tiger claws’ for coo.

anyone got a ‘tiger cub’ they wanna let go?.

 

Where’s good place to find batteries for those tools? I’m asking for a friend. no seriously, i am hah

huh?

Porter Cable kinda struggled to find it’s niche in the SBD lineup. It started out bottom of the barrel quality, but has slowly worked it’s way to the middle tier, which I think was always the intention.

Conductor562 wrote:

On 2/12/2017 at 11:50 PM, Conductor562 said:

Porter Cable kinda struggled to find it’s niche in the SBD lineup. It started out bottom of the barrel quality, but has slowly worked it’s way to the middle tier, which I think was always the intention.

 

 

I didn’t know they were at the bottom.

Jronman wrote:

5 minutes ago, Jronman said:

I didn’t know they were at the bottom.

I’m really only referring to their cordless stuff. For awhile when SBD got them, their cordless lineup was absolute garbage. It was seriously B&D level stuff. They improved them drastically when they put out the 20V line though. 

Jronman wrote:

I didn’t know they were at the bottom.

Conductor562 wrote:

 
I’m really only referring to their cordless stuff. For awhile when SBD got them, their cordless lineup was absolute garbage. It was seriously B&D level stuff. They improved them drastically when they put out the 20V line though. 

Conductor562 wrote:

On ‎2‎/‎15‎/‎2017 at 3:55 PM, Conductor562 said:

 

I’m really only referring to their cordless stuff. For awhile when SBD got them, their cordless lineup was absolute garbage. It was seriously B&D level stuff. They improved them drastically when they put out the 20V line though. 

I wouldn’t quite go that far.  Maybe there were some earlier tools that deserve a bad reputation, but my 18v PC stuff is still holding up strong, as is the 12v Max drill and impact driver.  Porter Cable had a fair number of 18v tools released, and the changeover from Ni-Cad to Li-Ion seemed to go well.  That said, most of my PC tools are earlier ones.  It did seem that the tools were cheapened somewhat over their lifespan (plastic chucks instead of metal, plastic guides on the circular saw shoe, etc).

I still have my old PC all metal sawzall…it’s a beast ,I’d put it up against any sawzall on the market and my old router and joiner still work great..20years old…

…..I remember in the trades if you owned porter cable you owned the best…

……Now it’s Milwaukee,DEWALT,Bosch in the trades maybe Makita…

Framer joe wrote:

8 hours ago, Framer joe said:

I still have my old PC all metal sawzall…it’s a beast ,I’d put it up against any sawzall on the market and my old router and joiner still work great..20years old…

…..I remember in the trades if you owned porter cable you owned the best…

……Now it’s Milwaukee,DEWALT,Bosch in the trades maybe Makita…

Porter cable used to be good.  Black N Decker now owns them and the quality of the product has significantly dropped.  They are built and priced to compete with Ridgid and the likes.  I have some really nice older Porter Cable products, but shy away from them now.

The same thing happened to Delta.  They were bought out, went to crap and is now back on their own trying to rebuild consumer confidence.

I’m with you on that….funny cuz it’s the reverse for Dewalt,Ryobi they were avg and now make great tools….of course Dewalt is king

I had the PC 20v stuff for a couple years and loved em.  I could easily out run (speed) the other guys with DeWalt 885’s.  I’d still recommend PC’s tools to anyone needing a great price to proformance tool line.  Ryobi is making it difficult to keep that recommendation but PC’s stuff is WAY more comfortable, lighter and the ability to easily mod B&D batteries to work still makes me like them.

Cr8ondt wrote:

I had the PC 20v stuff for a couple years and loved em.  I could easily out run (speed) the other guys with DeWalt 885’s.  I’d still recommend PC’s tools to anyone needing a great price to proformance tool line.  Ryobi is making it difficult to keep that recommendation but PC’s stuff is WAY more comfortable, lighter and the ability to easily mod B&D batteries to work still makes me like them.

JimboS1ice wrote:

10 hours ago, JimboS1ice said:

The brushless stuff feels pretty nice I just checked it out today at lowest, the impact had some rubber overmolding on the head too

Jimbo

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I got rid of my PC stuff literally the day before the SBD event that announced the brushless stuff

Cr8ondt wrote:

I got rid of my PC stuff literally the day before the SBD event that announced the brushless stuff

Framer joe wrote:

On 3/19/2017 at 10:26 PM, Framer joe said:

I still have my old PC all metal sawzall…it’s a beast ,I’d put it up against any sawzall on the market and my old router and joiner still work great..20years old…

…..I remember in the trades if you owned porter cable you owned the best…

……Now it’s Milwaukee,DEWALT,Bosch in the trades maybe Makita…

Id say the new king is Festool… if people can afford it.