If you want as close to dust free work environment as possible then it’s definitely worth it. Systainers are also extremely light and stack and latch much nicer than my ToughSystem stacks do. As I said, guys you see on site do use them but not the guys who work out in the elements. Most framers I’ve worked with shouldn’t be within 100 feet of a systainer, or tstak or LBoxx for that matter lol. Rough and rowdy bunch.
I cut and fitted a piece of live edge wood in a friends house today. I still need to add the nakashima bow tie over the crack and cut the plugs for the screw holes etc. He will do all the polyurethane work. All the cutting and sanding was done in his living room. I used a festool track saw and sanders connected to a festool vacuum. He also chased the track saw as I cut with a Ridgid shop vac. It was virtually all dust free, and cuts were laser straight no way could I have done that in using Milwaukee or Dewalt etc tools.
Other wise we would have had to carry it outside multiple time to make cuts. It was so nice to have the work piece on saw horses a foot away from where we were installing it,
Well I’d agree if you were talking about something like the Domino but other companies make dust extractors and track saws so I’ll disagree with that notion. You did it the expensive, and likely superior way, but not the only way lol. The end result is great though!
Bremon wrote:
28 minutes ago, Bremon said:You did it the expensive
I own the Festool sanders but borrowed the track saw and vacuum from work. So I did it the cheap way 🙂
Bremon wrote:
9 hours ago, Bremon said:Well I’d agree if you were talking about something like the Domino but other companies make dust extractors and track saws so I’ll disagree with that notion. You did it the expensive, and likely superior way, but not the only way lol. The end result is great though!
He might have been talking about not being able to make cuts with the other saws dust free like that. Even though they have dust extractors, the dust collection does not do as well. I think they do produce similar cuts.
Very cool live edge !
SetBuilder wrote:
10 hours ago, SetBuilder said:I cut and fitted a piece of live edge wood in a friends house today. I still need to add the nakashima bow tie over the crack and cut the plugs for the screw holes etc. He will do all the polyurethane work. All the cutting and sanding was done in his living room. I used a festool track saw and sanders connected to a festool vacuum. He also chased the track saw as I cut with a Ridgid shop vac. It was virtually all dust free, and cuts were laser straight no way could I have done that in using Milwaukee or Dewalt etc tools.
Other wise we would have had to carry it outside multiple time to make cuts. It was so nice to have the work piece on saw horses a foot away from where we were installing it,
Wow, beautiful work bro. I just ordered some West Systems to do a live edge table myself. I hope it comes out like that!
Framer joe wrote:
I hear Festool is quality….is it for cabinet makers ? Finish shop owners ? I never see a Festool product in the building trades ….I saw some Festool products finally at a lumber yard recently….I don’t see the quality over Milwaukee or Dewalt…or the storage containers,they look like they will break if I drop them…unlike a tough system case or Milwaukee case……….the plastic looks cheap…none or little overmold……gotta be a “in shop” use thing and stack the boxes…German motors and parts would be good…
Over seas festool is bigger for contractors but state side their price gap is much larger than the other boys
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JimboS1ice wrote:
On 20/02/2017 at 8:51 PM, JimboS1ice said:
Over seas festool is bigger for contractors but state side their price gap is much larger than the other boys
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Not really. Barely seen on-site in the UK. Might be more so in mainland europe but again doubtful. They’re too expensive to use for site work and risk damage or theft.
stductwork wrote:
Not really. Barely seen on-site in the UK. Might be more so in mainland europe but again doubtful. They’re too expensive to use for site work and risk damage or theft.
You poor guys in the U.K. get killed in any brand tool price
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Mine was shipped today.
Hope it turns out OK without bearing issues or this:
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Wow! Barely a wait since launch. Fantastic service lol. Reminds me…I need to use my coupon on a Midi before prices go up…
Got the long awaited update!
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Those of you on Instagram will recognize this, thought it was fitting:
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Not shown is the bump guard still in the systainer
hmm this isn’t on festools website
Whats the deal with the black systainer? I am behind I guess.
Jronman wrote:
4 hours ago, Jronman said:hmm this isn’t on festools website
rrmccabe wrote:
4 hours ago, rrmccabe said:Whats the deal with the black systainer? I am behind I guess.
You’re BOTH behind lol!!
It was a promo last year for $99 you get the pro5 LTD which comes with a black case and $50 voucher for future purchases…
@rrmccabe well you can buy a black systainer from Tanos. Also @KnarlyCarl I was just looking. Not interested in buying one. Of all the Festool products, I’m not sure I could justify a sander. Didn’t seem like there was much different than other orbital sanders. Is there much different?
I cant speak for all the all the sanders but the Festool I bought works great and the dust collection is amazing. I have a couple nice Bosch sanders and would consider them equal in sanding abilities but not for dust.
I will probably add another Festool sander in the future. Festool has over complicated their sander line so I am undecided. Sandpaper for that matter is just as confusing.
Thanks for the info on the Black systainer. I did nto pay much attention to the Pro 5 as I was not sure it was a serious Festool product at the time.
KnarlyCarl wrote:
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Nice Not Carl! Mine came in a while back and I a, waiting for my $50 refund. I ended up buying a CT26 and the boom arm ass,boy. The sands is awesome, nice lay made, fit and finish are great, DC is phenomenal. Like Rich said, I’ve got a Bosch sander too and I am switching the interface to 6″ so my PRO5 will be my 5″ finish sander.
rrmccabe wrote:
5 hours ago, rrmccabe said:I cant speak for all the all the sanders but the Festool I bought works great and the dust collection is amazing. I have a couple nice Bosch sanders and would consider them equal in sanding abilities but not for dust.
I will probably add another Festool sander in the future. Festool has over complicated their sander line so I am undecided. Sandpaper for that matter is just as confusing.
Thanks for the info on the Black systainer. I did nto pay much attention to the Pro 5 as I was not sure it was a serious Festool product at the time.
After buying this http://www.festoolproducts.com/power-tools/festool-sanders/festool-571903-ets-150-3-eq-random-orbital-sander.html I see no reason to own a 5in orbital sander. This was my first Festool Purchase and I have never looked back 🙂
I feel the same way. I bought this for corner sanding and it gets used for everything.
rrmccabe wrote:
1 hour ago, rrmccabe said:I feel the same way. I bought this for corner sanding and it gets used for everything.
That’s a nice looking multi purpose sander with the Delta pad
KnarlyCarl wrote:
1 hour ago, KnarlyCarl said:That’s a nice looking multi purpose sander with the Delta pad
I just bought the DTS 400 and it is fantastic.
The sad part is, after getting my Pro 5 back from Festool servicing the pad is starting to do the same thing it was doing in the above video. It will just stop rotating under very little pressure.
The only downside is pad shape is optimized to work well for a lot of things. Because of that its not symmetrical and you cant rotate the sanding disc. If you are corner sanding or doing small stuff you wear out the front point. Be nice to get 3 new points. That said if it was a perfect triangle it would not work as well.
One of the 2 Pro5s I ordered is going for the warranty. Ridiculous squirrelly regardless what abrasive and speed you use, or if you use suction or not.
Real subtle, yep sure….
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“Well, it may have taken a while for Festool to ship the PRO 5 sanders, but we have plenty of in-stock ready-to-ship Festool power tools that you can use your $50 rebate voucher on right now!
How Do I Use My $50 Voucher?
Head over to our website, festoolproducts.com, and order at least one power tool. Feel free to order multiple power tools and/or accessories on the same order. For the best value, we recommend a Festool package deal where you receive 10% off instantly on any CT dust extractor or MFT table when purchased with a power tool (your voucher will knock $50 off that)!
Next, visit Festool USA’s voucher claim website at festoolpro5.com. Enter the number from the voucher included with your PRO 5 sander, as well as the serial number and type of po……”
Well I certainly hope my expensive Domino performs better…
I just tried this sander and it jumps around uncontrollably, regardless of speed, grit, etc. Not even in the same league as my Bosch.
I just left a message to Toolnut, we’ll see what happens. Beyond my 30 days, of course…
My experience exactly @wildroamer
wildroamer wrote:
On 5/28/2017 at 9:04 AM, wildroamer said:Well I certainly hope my expensive Domino performs better…
I just tried this sander and it jumps around uncontrollably, regardless of speed, grit, etc. Not even in the same league as my Bosch.
I just left a message to Toolnut, we’ll see what happens. Beyond my 30 days, of course…
Mine arrived at Festool today for repair for the same reason. While I have heard very mixed reviews of the Pro5 with a lot having to be repaired, I’ve never heard any negatives with the Domino… except the price tag.