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Hi all I’m thinking of buying the dcf887 which will be my first dewalt tool , I have all bosch 18v which is superb but a few things with the new brushless impact I have are niggling me and it’s not up there with the power of the dcf887 so I’m thinking of buying the 2ah kit as I want this impact to be nice and light and still with the 2ah batteries it will still be more powerful then the bosch and it’s more compact and also I like the chuck with the one hand operation !
Any feedback from owners of this impact ? Thanks
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Craigh9916 wrote:
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Have you used this company before. I just checked there site and the kit is £155 now. Great price
The impact drivers, like wrenches, do take a hit to their power on compacts compared to 10-cell packs. Maybe you’re aware of that, and it will still beat your Bosch on a compact, but thought I would mention it just in case. That said, it seems to be a fantastic unit, and Dewalt’s 20v Max line is so ergonomical and feel really great to use.
Bremon wrote:
The impact drivers, like wrenches, do take a hit to their power on compacts compared to 10-cell packs. Maybe you’re aware of that, and it will still beat your Bosch on a compact, but thought I would mention it just in case. That said, it seems to be a fantastic unit, and Dewalt’s 20v Max line is so ergonomical and feel really great to use.
Yes I’m fully aware of this that’s why I think it will still be great on compacts and nice and light
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Turner85 wrote:
Have you used this company before. I just checked there site and the kit is £155 now. Great price
Thanks for the heads up , on their eBay it says out of stock but doesn’t say that on their website but they are out of stock as I messaged them today and they said they will have more in next week
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It’s a great tool, like mentioned above is get at least 1 big pack for heavier duty applications but that thing is a really nice driver
Jimbo
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Don’t think dude. Just buy. It’s awesome. My IDH182 is super jealous!
ChrisK wrote:
Don’t think dude. Just buy. It’s awesome. My IDH182 is super jealous!
So I take it you prefer it to the idh182 then ?
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I’m sure you already know what I think 😉
Craigh9916 wrote:
1 hour ago, Craigh9916 said:So I take it you prefer it to the idh182 then ?
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Hahahahaha yeah, I’m going to say yellow 😉
Took the plunge and ordered the kit today !! You lot have cost me money lol
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But think of the money you’ll make by putting it to work, or save by fixing or building things for yourself.
Bremon wrote:
But think of the money you’ll make by putting it to work, or save by fixing or building things for yourself.
Yeah ok I feel better now [emoji383][emoji383]
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I don’t have that impact but most of my tools are dewalt and you can’t go wrong with them they are vary reliable and tough
We had a guy fixing our doors at work today and our company still has him using xrp stuff, so I was busting his balls about it just because, but they still go strong for him and he beats the hell out of them
Jimbo
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We have 20v Max but mostly XRP at work. The good stuff gets stolen by deadbeats but no one can be bothered to steal XRP. It’s heavy and not that great but they get abused and keep ticking.
Bremon wrote:
We have 20v Max but mostly XRP at work. The good stuff gets stolen by deadbeats but no one can be bothered to steal XRP. It’s heavy and not that great but they get abused and keep ticking.
Yea that stuff is incredibly durable, built like a tank
Jimbo
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JimboS1ice wrote:
26 minutes ago, JimboS1ice said:Yea that stuff is incredibly durable, built like a tank
Jimbo
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Not to mention any XRP had to survive this long so you know it’s good.
They sold so much of it for so long they have no real choice but to continue supporting it, far too many people would be out too much money otherwise. Plus, 20v Max adoption wasn’t what they might have hoped it would be initially.
Just got back off my holiday and my dcf887 had arrived which is good but I am not as impressed as I thought I would be !!
It’s not a complete rant but a few things tool reviews haven’t hit on that I think are really important , in tool reviews I have seen like the recent one from oz tool which was a great review by the way but I have the bosch GDR v ec which you can see in my photo next to the new dcf887 and apart from the bosch not being as powerful as the 887 which by the way is a beast the Bosch is miles ahead in quality and also the way it impacts and seats the screws I will explain why
I have ran them side by side and the dewalt on its low setting isn’t the best which most people have agreed but one thing the Bosch does amazingly well is impact at the perfect time to stop the bit slipping out the screw head !
The Bosch on setting 1 puts small screws in perfectly and doesn’t at any time want to jump out the screw head but the dewalt is the opposite
Using 2 new ph2 bits which we all know want to cam out I did the same test on all settings and different ph2 screws and the Bosch seats the screws at ease and at no stage wants to pop out
But the dewalt doesn’t do it as well in anyway , I know it has higher rpm and Bpm but this isn’t what’s causing this issue its the fact the impacts don’t kick in at the perfect time to stop the slipping they are a split second to late kicking in
Also my other gripe which is the main one for me is the Bosch has the best grip and balance side by side holding one then the other the Bosch fits the hand amazing and also the sound of the Bosch is like a rolls Royce to the sound of the dewalt ! The Bosch is smooth and quiet when you pull the trigger and the dewalt is a lot louder and sounds more raspy if you know what I mean ?
The dewalt has its place and benefits like the chuck and its power but I think tool reviews are missing some big factors like the way the impacts kick in and how the bit stays in the screw a lot better with one impact driver to the other
I will say if I didn’t have the Bosch I maybe wouldn’t have found these issues an issue but because I’ve been used to the Bosch it’s hard no to notice this
I will be keeping the dewalt as it has its place but in no way has it replaced the Bosch ! [External image (uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com), not copied]
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We certainly didn’t focus on 1st speed performance it’s true. I’ve always loved how quiet the bosch is with small fasteners, often not impacting until the head of a small screw hits the timber. i think the ‘drill’ mechanism (before impacting starts) must be a tad more powerful than some others.
But it’s the opposite if you ask them to do hard things. The bosch will sound awful by comparison if you drive in large fasteners where it has to impact for a long time.
I also wonder if the GDR gives any different performance to the GDX? I’ve only used the GDX.
Our test probably over-focused on power (heavy trade use), which is the Bosch’s weakest point.
dwain wrote:
We certainly didn’t focus on 1st speed performance it’s true. I’ve always loved how quiet the bosch is with small fasteners, often not impacting until the head of a small screw hits the timber. i think the ‘drill’ mechanism (before impacting starts) must be a tad more powerful than some others.
But it’s the opposite if you ask them to do hard things. The bosch will sound awful by comparison if you drive in large fasteners where it has to impact for a long time.
I also wonder if the GDR gives any different performance to the GDX? I’ve only used the GDX.
Our test probably over-focused on power (heavy trade use), which is the Bosch’s weakest point.
Yes completely agree it struggles with the big fasteners and maybe sounds worst at that point but if you do side by side in any mode with small to medium fasteners the way the bosch impacts kick in it drives a lot smoother and without cam out at all , I had the gdx and there is no noticeable difference between that and the GDR that I could tell , to be fair after a few weeks with the dewalt I’m sure I will see where it excels
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yeah it always takes a bit of time to get used to new stuff. good to know re: GDX vs GDR.
Also, the power difference will be a fair bit more obvious if you have high capacity batteries on both tools.
dwain wrote:
yeah it always takes a bit of time to get used to new stuff. good to know re: GDX vs GDR.
Also, the power difference will be a fair bit more obvious if you have high capacity batteries on both tools.
Yeah I know and it’s more powerful then the bosch with the slim batteries anyway but that isn’t my gripe it has plenty of power which will come into its own but the Bosch on number 1 and even number 2 settings can drive very small delicate screws to perfection impacting at the perfect time but the 887 is not so good at that in number 1 it’s neither here nor there and number two is a massive leap so it’s not got that right balance like the Bosch plus wish the grip was a little better on the dewalt apart from that I’m sure the 887 will be amazing on certain jobs
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I’m not sure what you’re experiencing with it “wanting” to slip the screw. Only time I’ve really experienced that is max speed on my M18 Fuel with 3″ deck screws trying to drive them as quick as possible while not putting enough pressure on the bit.
Comfort/feel/ergonomics is subjective but I’ve always loved the grips on 20v Max and think they’re likely the best in the business. Gen 2 Fuel is a step in the right direction, and gen 1 Fuel really felt poor compared to the 20v Max. I have very little experience with Bosch but have talked to lots of people who like the way the 20v Max.
Sorry to hear you’re disappointed with it Craig, never a great feeling waiting on a new tool and being underwhelmed.
Bremon wrote:
I’m not sure what you’re experiencing with it “wanting” to slip the screw. Only time I’ve really experienced that is max speed on my M18 Fuel with 3″ deck screws trying to drive them as quick as possible while not putting enough pressure on the bit.
Comfort/feel/ergonomics is subjective but I’ve always loved the grips on 20v Max and think they’re likely the best in the business. Gen 2 Fuel is a step in the right direction, and gen 1 Fuel really felt poor compared to the 20v Max. I have very little experience with Bosch but have talked to lots of people who like the way the 20v Max.
Sorry to hear you’re disappointed with it Craig, never a great feeling waiting on a new tool and being underwhelmed.
To be fair it’s hard to explain the issue and have it come across right and because I have always had bosch that’s why I can see and feel the difference in the two tools but without me doing a close up video to show exactly what I mean maybe people won’t see my point but this won’t be an issue with most screw types just maybe ph2 as they a sensitive to cam out but all I can say is the dewalt wants to cam out a lot more then the Bosch in speed 1 and even 2
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Also if you have the chance to hold Bosch GDR vec and fell the grip you will know exactly what I mean it’s a great fit
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I’ll definitely keep my eyes out Craig. Maybe try it out with Robertsons, or torx. I hate Phillips drive w a passion on a good day lol.
Bremon wrote:
I’ll definitely keep my eyes out Craig. Maybe try it out with Robertsons, or torx. I hate Phillips drive w a passion on a good day lol.
Yeah unfortunately for me I’m in the window business and in the UK 80% of the screws are Philips when working with double glazing
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Gotcha, can definitely see how the Dewalt could end up an around-the-house tool then with your situation.
The dewalt will get plenty of use as it will come into its own on larger screws plus pilot drilling and step drilling so I like to use two impacts at once one for pre drilling and one for screws on certain jobs
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Phillips is starting a slow death in the USA It’s still common, but you can find other screws now in the big box stores 10 years ago that wasn’t the case.
DR99 wrote:
Phillips is starting a slow death in the USA It’s still common, but you can find other screws now in the big box stores 10 years ago that wasn’t the case.
Yeah I see in the US you lot use a lot of the Robertson square drive well in the UK they aren’t used at all mainly pz2 and ph2 and the odd torx drive which I really like
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I though it was annoying to deal with a Roberson back in the day, but seeing as it doesn’t cam out like Phillips makes it a million times better.
DR99 wrote:
I though it was annoying to deal with a Roberson back in the day, but seeing as it doesn’t cam out like Phillips makes it a million times better.
Yeah Phillips are like a modern day flat head should never have been invented
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they were actually invented to cam out! Sometimes its better to cam the screw than damage the piece it’s being worked on (think brittle materials).
I have a feeling that the sensitivity issue you’re finding between the two is mostly just being used to one tool for quite a while. The bosch gets my most as best grip too, but I don’t think the Dewalt is anything to sneeze at either.
Robertson and torx are my favorites by far. They are easy to come by (Canada’s claim to fame in the fastener industry lol), and yes, Phillips being designed to cam out doesn’t seem to be as well known as you’d think. Also makes it seem a bit odd that they’re basically the standard for construction screws.
I’m going to have to stop by Lowes to see these Bosch grips. It will be weird to have a reason to go there, God knows it’s not for the deals (not in Canada anyway).
I have the milwaukee 2763 dewalt 886 and dewalt 887 and it’s definitely my favorite impact
Lol the 2763 is in another league. With an adapter it would be perfect if the goal was to shear the heads off screws all day though 😆
Personally, I went with the Makita Oil-Impulse driver over upgrading my 1st gen DeWalt brushless. The Makita impact has insane trigger feather and control back by loads of power. Not to mention it is so easy on the ears. That being said, I loved my DeWalt impact for the year I used it. I would still like to handle and test out the new 887.
Is the DCF887 USA-assembled? I saw one on Instagram that had that sticker on it but can’t find any info otherwise, even under dewalt’s “American pride” page. Also, the 885 is listed there as USA assembled but that must have happened within the last couple years because ours at work say made in Mexico.
Bremon wrote:
Is the DCF887 USA-assembled? I saw one on Instagram that had that sticker on it but can’t find any info otherwise, even under dewalt’s “American pride” page. Also, the 885 is listed there as USA assembled but that must have happened within the last couple years because ours at work say made in Mexico.
The one I have isn’t but it’s UK model, I have seen one on eBay that has the USA badge on the side but that’s import !
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I got the 887 last week and have been quietly testing it next to my 886. So far I like it, a lot, but one thing is bugging the ever living hell out of me. The lights are yellow. Like Dewalt…YELLOW. They make the work piece look horrible and ring out darker and darker yellow all the way to the terminator. It’s horribly distracting. Pick up my 886 and the light is nice, bright, and white with no weird halo’s.
The temperature of LED chosen for this I fear was a horrible mistake, IMO.
Other than that, so far so good, probably not worthy of out of pocket cash update from the 886 but I had a gift card for Amazon and found a private seller that’s letting them go for $103. Very cheap indeed.
Hugh Jass wrote:
I got the 887 last week and have been quietly testing it next to my 886. So far I like it, a lot, but one thing is bugging the ever living hell out of me. The lights are yellow. Like Dewalt…YELLOW. They make the work piece look horrible and ring out darker and darker yellow all the way to the terminator. It’s horribly distracting. Pick up my 886 and the light is nice, bright, and white with no weird halo’s.
The temperature of LED chosen for this I fear was a horrible mistake, IMO.
Other than that, so far so good, probably not worthy of out of pocket cash update from the 886 but I had a gift card for Amazon and found a private seller that’s letting them go for $103. Very cheap indeed.
Yes I noticed that and if you look at my photo on this thread of it next to my bosch the lights on the bosch are a nice cool white tint
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Lol well after reading all this maybe my expectations will be low enough that it will be a pleasant surprise. Likely going to sell it to subsidize the drill and batteries anyway.
For me that’s not a huge issue, though very distracting. I just don’t understand how the Ferrari of impacts ends up with KC offroading lamps from 1991, if you know what I’m saying.
Performance for me has been a hit so far. Works great, and I like the screw setting so far even though I thought I might not. Turns out that if it’s hard enough to screw that it stops the drill, you need to bump up the setting to 2 anyhow so driving past the initial torque out isn’t even necessary, still has a good bit of twist even here though the fine control is welcome.
Got an offer on the 887 that I planned on subsidizing my 796 with and I’m indecisive lol. Damn tools. It’s a sickness!
dcf887 + dcd791/796 is the best compact kit, bar none.
Oh I agree, the competing Milwaukee kit is more expensive everywhere I look, the drill is weaker, and the impact is a single speed model that isn’t up to par with the Fuel or 887.