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I’ve known about this since January but was sworn to secrecy but now it has been leaked by a marketing company on Facebook I can post it.
Ryobi have just this week announced its new 3.0ah slim pack, 6.0ah pack and 9.0ah pack for the 18V One+ system. No word on when they’ll be available to buy but should be soon.
These batteries won’t replace any of the existing models as the cells and electronics are very different. These are being called high energy batteries as the cells used allow a lot more current than a normal 18v battery to pass into the tool which allows for better power delivery and power output.
i was beginning to get rid of some of my Ryobi tools and replace with Milwaukee but I may just hold onto a few and get some of these batteries.
I know for a fact the US team didn’t want the 2.5ah or 5.0ah packs so maybe they’ll release these three sooner rather than later.
The photo below was taken at the UK conference this week.
Martin
That’s good for ryobi owners!
Jimbo
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Wow that’s pretty cool maybe they will release the 9 ah before Milwaukee at this rate lol
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KnarlyCarl wrote:
1 hour ago, KnarlyCarl said:Wow that’s pretty cool maybe they will release the 9 ah before Milwaukee at this rate lol
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That’d be really sad.
The Milwaukee 6.0ah and 9.0ah are due out Aug/Sept, at least in the UK. The engineers have had to ensure that every single M18 tool ever produced is compatible with the new 9.0ah battery instead of going down the route Makita did by excluding some older tools from their higher capacity batteries.
Rammstein2609 wrote:
The Milwaukee 6.0ah and 9.0ah are due out Aug/Sept, at least in the UK. The engineers have had to ensure that every single M18 tool ever produced is compatible with the new 9.0ah battery instead of going down the route Makita did by excluding some older tools from their higher capacity batteries.
Glad to hear they are thinking about that
I think they will be out at least at the same time. If not before lol.
go Ryobi!
I was trying to think what Ryobi tool would really benefit from a 9ah pack. Right off the top it would be their cordless ope. Still pretty awesome stuff from Ryobi. It might take awhile for it to filter to the USA though Ryobi commands a higher price point out side of the states.
DR99 wrote:
I was trying to think what Ryobi tool would really benefit from a 9ah pack. Right off the top it would be their cordless ope. Still pretty awesome stuff from Ryobi. It might take awhile for it to filter to the USA though Ryobi commands a higher price point out side of the states.
Their cordless miter too
Cordless Ryobi sliding mitre saw on the stand in this photo 🙂
“up to 3x more runtime”
I’m really curious how they’re coming up with that number. Did they have 1Ah packs before?
jeffmcmillan wrote:
“up to 3x more runtime”I’m really curious how they’re coming up with that number. Did they have 1Ah packs before?
Their entry level lithium pack is like 1.2 ah
JimboS1ice wrote:
Their entry level lithium pack is like 1.2 ah
28 watt hour I believe
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What diameter is that sliding compound miter saw?
Rammstein2609 wrote:
On 5/20/2016 at 4:08 AM, Rammstein2609 said:Cordless Ryobi sliding mitre saw on the stand in this photo 🙂
Cheng Liu wrote:
3 hours ago, Cheng Liu said:What diameter is that sliding compound miter saw?
The one that’s been out for a while was 7-1/4″. That one looks about the same.
I was wondering why the battery compartment for the Garage Door opener looks way bigger than the 4.0 battery. It makes a great trickle charger to keep your batteries topped off and useful in a power outage as well.
JerryNY wrote:
I was wondering why the battery compartment for the Garage Door opener looks way bigger than the 4.0 battery. It makes a great trickle charger to keep your batteries topped off and useful in a power outage as well.
Yea I thought that to be pretty ingenious of them
Jimbo
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DR99 wrote:
On 5/20/2016 at 10:47 PM, DR99 said:I was trying to think what Ryobi tool would really benefit from a 9ah pack. Right off the top it would be their cordless ope. Still pretty awesome stuff from Ryobi. It might take awhile for it to filter to the USA though Ryobi commands a higher price point out side of the states.
Out of all the tools I own or have owned, the only one I could think of would be the SDS rotary hammer. I used one to drill about 20 holes 6″ deep each through solid concrete and it took two 4 ah batteries to do it.
khariV wrote:
On 5/19/2016 at 4:58 PM, khariV said:That’d be really sad.
Isn’t it owned by the same company?
Tormund wrote:
Isn’t it owned by the same company?
Yup TTi, RIDGID power tools as well
Jimbo
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I wonder if they will now start producing more powerful tools specifically to make use of the bigger batteries. I for one would love to see a heavier duty SDS rotary hammer (preferably the kind that resembles a reciprocating saw), a cordless (or better yet hybrid) 10″ (or better yet 12″) sliding compound miter saw, and a 7 1/4″ circular saw. I also wonder what this means for their 40v tools. I don’t know much about batteries so I am not sure of which one has more power between a 2 mAh 40v battery and a 9 mAh 18v battery.
From the research I’ve doing lately, it seems that the batteries that come with the combo kits are pretty useless on the high drain devices like the saws. Is it nothing but a ploy to make you think you can run those reasonably with the batteries that come with it and then force you to buy the larger ones?
Seems to be a trend among Ryobi and Rigid kits?
Was eyeing a Rigid kit that came with a 6.5 inch circ saw that was going for ~ 200 bucks, but then saw that the batteries were 1.5 ah? I’m right to think that those batteries won’t properly run the saw?
Tormund wrote:
From the research I’ve doing lately, it seems that the batteries that come with the combo kits are pretty useless on the high drain devices like the saws. Is it nothing but a ploy to make you think you can run those reasonably with the batteries that come with it and then force you to buy the larger ones?
Seems to be a trend among Ryobi and Rigid kits?
Was eyeing a Rigid kit that came with a 6.5 inch circ saw that was going for ~ 200 bucks, but then saw that the batteries were 1.5 ah? I’m right to think that those batteries won’t properly run the saw?
You see that a lot to make a pretty price tag for combos but you get junk batteries. When I bought the stealth force ridgid I would have preferred 1 4.0 or 5.0 over 2 slim packs
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Tormund wrote:
From the research I’ve doing lately, it seems that the batteries that come with the combo kits are pretty useless on the high drain devices like the saws. Is it nothing but a ploy to make you think you can run those reasonably with the batteries that come with it and then force you to buy the larger ones?
Seems to be a trend among Ryobi and Rigid kits?
Was eyeing a Rigid kit that came with a 6.5 inch circ saw that was going for ~ 200 bucks, but then saw that the batteries were 1.5 ah? I’m right to think that those batteries won’t properly run the saw?
You are right in thinking this, it’s good for impacts and lights, but ridiculous to think it can run a higher demand tool with a small pack, and it’s to be more alluring because of a smaller price tag
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Tormund wrote:
On 6/20/2016 at 0:01 PM, Tormund said:From the research I’ve doing lately, it seems that the batteries that come with the combo kits are pretty useless on the high drain devices like the saws. Is it nothing but a ploy to make you think you can run those reasonably with the batteries that come with it and then force you to buy the larger ones?
Seems to be a trend among Ryobi and Rigid kits?
Was eyeing a Rigid kit that came with a 6.5 inch circ saw that was going for ~ 200 bucks, but then saw that the batteries were 1.5 ah? I’m right to think that those batteries won’t properly run the saw?
Thankfully Ryobi latest generation 4 mAh batteries are comparatively cheap. I remember getting mine 2 for $95.
Chen Liu is right Home Depot runs specials on 2 packs of the Ryobi 4ah 2 packs for $99 or less if they get marked down. Some people were getting them for 25/35 2 years ago on after holiday sales.
Will this then shift the price of batteries and composition of the combo deals?
I look forward to adding some more Ryobi batteries to my line up…that xmas deal of 2/4.0 for 99$ is great…hopefully the new batteries will be cheap
Greetings! Is there any estimated time for the release of these new 3/6/9Ah batteries?
(Our local store’s Ryobi Rep didn’t know of them, and there’s no website update in UK/EU, US or Australia)
Thanks!
ETA is Q3 2017 for EU and ANZ.
I haven’t heard of these making it into the US yet as they rejected 2.5ah and 5.0ah in 2015.
Rammstein2609 wrote:
On 2/5/2017 at 9:16 AM, Rammstein2609 said:ETA is Q3 2017 for EU and ANZ.
I haven’t heard of these making it into the US yet as they rejected 2.5ah and 5.0ah in 2015.
I can see why they rejected the 2.5 and 5.0 ah batteries since those were barely better than what was already available, but these are a major step up from that. If these don’t make it to America in a timely manner, I will not be a happy camper.
this be the first slim pack of any company?
It looks like the P194 will be the 9.0 http://manuals.ryobitools.com/system/files/9851/original/P194_003_trilingual_01.pdf
P107 & P108 for comparison http://manuals.ryobitools.com/system/files/7355/original/P107_P108_160_trilingual_03.pdf?2017
that 9.0 looks big
The 9.0ah pack looks big in the image but in reality is only around 17mm thicker at max, weight is obviously more though.
I’ve heard a July 2017 launch for 9.0ah but 3.0 and 6.0 possibly delayed until end of the year.
Also, these packs don’t use 18650 cells! Watch this space as they have also incorporated some new technology hence the name High Demand! (Sorry can’t say anymore than that)
Rammstein2609 wrote:
On 4/24/2017 at 1:45 PM, Rammstein2609 said:The 9.0ah pack looks big in the image but in reality is only around 17mm thicker at max, weight is obviously more though.
I’ve heard a July 2017 launch for 9.0ah but 3.0 and 6.0 possibly delayed until end of the year.
Also, these packs don’t use 18650 cells! Watch this space as they have also incorporated some new technology hence the name High Demand! (Sorry can’t say anymore than that)
Is that release date for Australia, Europe or America? Any word on the price? I really can’t wait for it and I hope they make more powerful tools to take advantage of it i.e a full sized sliding compound miter saw or a full sized SDS+ rotary hammer drill.
cliu wrote:
2 hours ago, cliu said:Is that release date for Australia, Europe or America? Any word on the price? I really can’t wait for it and I hope they make more powerful tools to take advantage of it i.e a full sized sliding compound miter saw or a full sized SDS+ rotary hammer drill.
That’s the release date for EU and ANZ BUT, I believe Home Depot recently had an expo where Ryobi attended and showed the battery lineup for North America – 1.5ah, 2.0ah & 4.0ah standard pack and 3.0ah, 6.0ah & 9.0ah High Demand packs:
Also on the 10″ brushless sliding mitre saw side of things…
This is a strange one as I don’t believe this is the model being released in the EU and ANZ so may be North America specific. This looks like the operating mechanism from the AEG 10″ saw and base from the Ridgid 7-1/4″ saw.
Rammstein2609 wrote:
3 hours ago, Rammstein2609 said:
Interesting graphic. I wonder where the 2.5 and 5.0ah lithium+ sit in it?
Just picked up a two pack of the 4.0 batteries for $89 … Just one if those batteries to buy separately was $99 .. Go figure..
I mean, I’m pretty sure it’s the same battery.
Yep, just double checked, plus it looks like the HD I went to has them $10 off.
It says $99 for the two pack, but I paid $89,. Sweet!!!
ONE+ 18-Volt High Capacity LITHIUM+ Battery (2-Pack)
Whereas this is $99
ONE+ 18-Volt High Capacity Lithium+ Battery
Rammstein2609 wrote:
On 5/1/2017 at 0:42 PM, Rammstein2609 said:That’s the release date for EU and ANZ BUT, I believe Home Depot recently had an expo where Ryobi attended and showed the battery lineup for North America – 1.5ah, 2.0ah & 4.0ah standard pack and 3.0ah, 6.0ah & 9.0ah High Demand packs:
Also on the 10″ brushless sliding mitre saw side of things…
This is a strange one as I don’t believe this is the model being released in the EU and ANZ so may be North America specific. This looks like the operating mechanism from the AEG 10″ saw and base from the Ridgid 7-1/4″ saw.
Is this battery only or hybrid? If it is hybrid then shut up and take my money, if it is battery only I would really have to think about it. I am sometimes in places without electricity so it would be nice to have a battery powered miter saw, but I don’t know if it is often enough to justify the purchase of a miter saw just for that. If it was hybrid I would be able to replace my corded miter saw with this. I also wonder why they went with 10″ rather than 12″, that is not a big deal I am jw.
Bring em on already !!!
Stuart did a preview http://toolguyd.com/new-ryobi-18v-high-energy-battery-packs/
Sure is taking a while!!
Over a year ago , that’s ridiculous
Wonder what the hell happened with this a big media event then nothing happened?
I really wonder what happened with the higher capacity batteries. Home Depot just wasn’t willing to buy them or what?
DR99 wrote:
1 hour ago, DR99 said:I really wonder what happened with the higher capacity batteries. Home Depot just wasn’t willing to buy them or what?
This pic was pulled from HD’s site
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I made a FB comment about what happened to the new batteries. The linked a video eric and dan did on the new vacuum, and I was like what happened to the packs you teased at an event awhile ago. They were like we cant’ talk about new products.