August 6, 2014
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Article Type - Review, Battery Type - 18/20V, Power Type - Cordless, Tradesman - Automotive Tool Reviews, User Type - Professional
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Article Type - Review, Battery Type - 18/20V, Power Type - Cordless, Tradesman - Automotive Tool Reviews, User Type - Professional
Thanks for the excellent review Travis! I am very surprised to see that Mac has been able to get anywhere near the power of the 2763 or W7150. I do think you are correct when you say that there is no “industry standard” when it comes to torque testing, however I have confirmed with Milwaukee & Ingersoll Rand that they both use calibrated Skidmore-Wilhelm machines to verify torque ratings.
In my testing of both the 2763 & W7150, I believe that the power levels are so close they cannot be differentiated without scientific testing. In the real-world applications that I have put them up against, neither has failed at anything…….including the next-to-impossible Honda Crank Bolts. In the 2 reviews that I did, I showed each removing 2 Honda Crank Bolts with ease…..something that 95% of pneumatic impacts cannot do.
Looking at the numbers you listed for the Mac, it seems that this could be the 3rd impact out there that could achieve that….which is very encouraging, since it will only increase competition and innovation within the tool manufacturing community.
As far as the term “nut busting torque”, I thought this was some marketing scheme when I first heard it…..however, I have confirmed with both Milwaukee & Ingersoll Rand that in their testing of these units, they torque bolts to 1,100 ft-lbs with a calibrated torque wrench & the impacts WERE ABLE to remove those fasteners….so that is where they are coming up with that term.
Also, as far as the “forward torque” goes, I think that is extremely hard to measure in real-life, simply because no normal applications require anything near 700 ft-lbs. In the COPTOOL video, the 2763 & W7150 both hit 900 ft-lbs forward torque…..when I asked Milwaukee why this occurred, they told me flat-out that “the larger the fastener, more torque will be applied until it basically fuses the threads”. I unfortunately confirmed this unintentionally, because when I was testing the 2763 I wanted to see “how tight” I could make the nut on the trailer ball (1″ shank w/ 1 1/2″ nut)…..I hammered on it for 7-8 seconds & the threads literally fused together and ripped off of the shank & stripped out of the nut. So there really IS “too much power” when it comes to power tools. I hope instead of the companies focusing on more power, they switch over to focusing on longer run-times.
Great job Travis!
Great review Travis, im not convinced it has the power of the other two, but still is a nice gun
The Milwaukee is the heaviest at 6.2 lbs.
I think the advantage still goes to the Milwaukee here though. For any brushed tool, performance will diminish as the brushes wear. For a tool like a drill or a sawzall, that’s fine, don’t force the tool as much so while it takes a little longer, it still works a few years down the road. For an impact wrench though, the work you can accomplish with the tool will diminish. When that fastener won’t budge, no amount of extra time on the trigger will break it loose, and you’ll have to break out the breaker bar and some other tool to counteract the force (I’m thinking specifically crank pulley bolts, flywheel bolts, etc here).
I hope more mfgs bring out some brushless impact tools to challenge the Milwaukees, them just sitting on top doesn’t really give them incentive to put more R&D into the tool.
Wow!!… great review, you covered pretty much everything. Very hard to find a hands on/ comparisons/reviews in the internet for this tool. There is a bare tool option though, it’ll run you around $440.00 but my mac guy hooked me up. I haven’t even used it yet but I am very excited too. Every one at work is crazy about the new snap on ct7850m, I was wondering if you guys could do a review on it or a vs with the bwp050. Would love to know what you think is better between the two.
Thanks OB! You made a wise choice. The new Snap-On cordless line is rumored (though I feel it’s pretty much confirmed) to be built by Bosch. I got to play with one on the truck, but didn’t get a chance to actually do any work with it. The CT7850M is nice, and while it specs out really close to the BWP050, I still feel that with the price and warranty difference, and the Dewalt compatibility, the 050 is the better option.
When I called Mac about the bare tool option, the product manager told me “there wasn’t one and you’ll not find any official part number listed for it”. I’d say the driver is simply parting out a kit, but that’s cool he does that and it’s certainly within his right to do.
I have a review coming up on the 3/8″ BWP038. Should have it up in a week or so.
I just bought the BWP050 a couple of weeks ago. So far it has hardly broken a sweat. Had to repower a skid steer last week (excuse I used for buying it). The skid plate bolts were 3/8″ with 30+ years of corosion on them. This impact was snapping anything that didn’t budge instantly. It seems to have about the same power as my Eathquake 1/2″ but much more trigger control. I have some Snap On impacts and a mechanic in my shop uses the Snap On equivelant of my impact. From what I have been able to see they are pretty close. Thanks for posting a review on this tool, not many reviews on these out there.
Necropost here, but since the article, there has been a lot of progress in the full size impact 1/2″ anvil wrench segment:
Makita XWT08:
Brushless, 740 ft-lbs max tightening torque, weight of 8.1 lbs w/battery
Dewalt DCF899
Brushless, 700 ft-lbs max tightening torque, weight of 7 lbs wo/ battery
Makita put the light in the wrong spot. New mac brushless. .. sister to dewalt is now out. Mac now have r spec batteries. Resistance to chemicals. Milwaukee light In wrong spot… and protective boot cost way too much like most of there stuff.
Where can I get the housing for my Mac 050 I broke it where the battery connects to the gun?
Wow, great question. I don’t know. Hopefully someone will come on an chime in.
Have there been any complaints about the noise level of this gun. I have one and every one complains that the noise output is very high when tightening wheel nuts with a torque stick.
Good question. I haven’t heard anything.